New weapon, skills, items, and tweaks you'd like to see!~

• Akutare wrote on 2012-07-05 08:31

  Quote from Spaghedeity;901325:

  It's actually either 220% or 240% when using any kind of two handed weapon, and I'm 30% ish sure that it applies to one handed axes too. Depends on what Devcat means by "20% damage increase". Since that could either be the same as the assault slash master, or an actual damage buff.
  
  Human charge needs to do 200 or 250% damage.

  
  It'd be 240% without the master title equipped.
• Azareel wrote on 2012-07-05 17:02

  Quote from Darkboy132;901304:

  I'm talking about the Dragon Monsters, not the pets.
  
  1k~ Breath Attack is fair with all the cooldowns and whatnot. But Cromm Cruiach spam flying w/ a fireball that hits 1/4th the room and you can't outrun it, or Crumena using thunder and hitting 10k all over the place is OP.
  
  Cromm Cruiach's state right now is ridiculous. C1 is the introductionary, but not even pros can survive one hit from it...
  I'm lv 2500, I can't kill it in less than 7 hits (even with 255 path upgrade Dual Fomor Falcs, Master of Combat/Sword), that thing kills me in two regardless.

  
  
  It's sad how so many people seem to forget about R1 magic barriers.
  
  Speaking of, I've been finding recently that having said barriers load instantly would definitely increase their usability by a great deal. They are, after all, basically magic's version of Defense.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2012-07-05 17:22

  Quote from Azareel;901506:

  It's sad how so many people seem to forget about R1 magic barriers.

  
  
  Barriers don't do shit against Dragon Fireball, from what I've heard.
  
  You'd think a Lv ~100 would actually have that, too...
• Akutare wrote on 2012-07-05 17:43

  Quote from Darkboy132;901511:

  You'd think a Lv ~100 would actually have that, too...

  
  Because you can't have a party member in your C1 finals, right?
• Azareel wrote on 2012-07-05 18:11

  Quote from Darkboy132;901511:

  Barriers don't do shit against Dragon Fireball, from what I've heard.
  
  You'd think a Lv ~100 would actually have that, too...

  
  
  I haven't had a single elemental attack I can't tank while using barriers so far. They reduce damage by a great deal.
  
  It's kinda funny to tank several dragon thunderbolts in a row, when everyone else dies in 1 (or 2 if put in deadly) hits from it.
  It's funny how even though I'm typically the only one that survives, no-one else tries hiding under the barrier with me.
  
  Besides, it's not like level ~100 players have access to Campfire or Barrier Spikes, if all else fails. Oh, wait...
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2012-07-05 18:37

  Quote from Akutare;901518:

  Because you can't have a party member in your C1 finals, right?

  
  
  Irrelevant.
  
  Glas, Tabharatas, Esras, Tethra, Mata, Claimh Solas, Doppelganger, Ouroboros, Nuadha, Reaper, Bran, Merrow, and Lugh ALL DON'T ONE SHOT, even on HARD. Why should dragons?
  
  They already nerfed the Shadow Realm version of Red Dragon, why not the others?
  
  Once again, C1 is an introductionary chapter. The chance of a lv ~100s vs Cromm surviving is less than 1%.
• Zyferous wrote on 2012-07-05 18:42

  Quote from Darkboy132;901555:

  Irrelevant.
  
  Glas, Tabharatas, Esras, Tethra, Mata, Claimh Solas, Doppelganger, Ouroboros, Nuadha, Reaper, Bran, Merrow, and Lugh ALL DON'T ONE SHOT, even on HARD. Why should dragons?
  
  They already nerfed the Shadow Realm version of Red Dragon, why not the others?
  
  Once again, C1 is an introductionary chapter. The chance of a lv ~100s vs Cromm surviving is less than 1%.

  
  
  Wait, you want them to make the game even easier when everybody else is up in arms about them making the game too easy? Baol final was never meant to be easy, it's a CHALLENGE. When G3 first came out, everybody's total levels were in the low hundreds given how the rebirth system worked; yet people still managed to beat Cromm. Why fix something that isn't broken?
  
  On topic:
  I think it'd be really cool to see some sort of one handed spear-type weapons, like those in fire emblem. Or perhaps expand the axe class of weapons because frankly it seems to be limited to the francisca exclusively right now. Melee weapon variety would be interesting, rather than reskinned models of essentially the same weapon (swords) with different stats.
• Akutare wrote on 2012-07-05 18:46

  Quote from Darkboy132;901555:

  Irrelevant.
  
  Glas, Tabharatas, Esras, Tethra, Mata, Claimh Solas, Doppelganger, Ouroboros, Nuadha, Reaper, Bran, Merrow, and Lugh ALL DON'T ONE SHOT, even on HARD. Why should dragons?
  
  They already nerfed the Shadow Realm version of Red Dragon, why not the others?
  
  Once again, C1 is an introductionary chapter. The chance of a lv ~100s vs Cromm surviving is less than 1%.

  
  It's entirely relevant as even without them, Cromm can be killed by three <100's if they're not trashy scrubs as you're suggesting.
  
  >Glas was nerfed severely.
  >Tabhartas and Esras aren't supposed to be hard.
  >Tethra and Mata could one-shot a fair few players even on HM.
  >Claimh can one-shot.
  >Doppelganger isn't supposed to one-shot you.
  >Ouroboros can one-shot.
  >Nuadha can one-shot.
  >Reaper isn't supposed to one-shot.
  >Bran was nerfed in KR.
  >Merrow is supposed to be easy.
  >Lugh idk, I haven't actually seen him do anything but get stunlocked.
  
  I mean seriously, if people could do an un-nerfed G3 back in the days before free rebirths or AOE pets, why do you, someone who has access to Spear of God, magic shields, mana shield, personas, demigod of any kind, life elixirs, paper airplanes, barrier spikes, and GREATEST OF ALL, CAMPFIRES want Cromm to be nerfed?
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2012-07-05 18:59

  Quote from Zyferous;901558:

  Wait, you want them to make the game even easier when everybody else is up in arms about them making the game too easy? Baol final was never meant to be easy, it's a CHALLENGE. When G3 first came out, everybody's total levels were in the low hundreds given how the rebirth system worked; yet people still managed to beat Cromm. Why fix something that isn't broken?
  

  
  
  ONCE AGAIN C1 is introductionary. A lv ~100's chances of survival are very slim.
  If you REALLY REALLY want a "challenge", then tell the devs to make a BAOL NORMAL with EXACTLY THE SAME MOBS AS BAOL FINAL, HOW ABOUT IT?!
  
  

  Quote from Akutare;901561:

  I mean seriously, if people could do an un-nerfed G3 back in the days before free rebirths or AOE pets, why do you, someone who has access to Spear of God, magic shields, mana shield, personas, demigod of any kind, life elixirs, paper airplanes, barrier spikes, and GREATEST OF ALL, CAMPFIRES want Cromm to be nerfed?

  
  
  You're missing the point. C1 isn't supposed to be "ONE SHOT EVERYONE" mode.
  Stop retreating behind 100~s and look at this a newbie's point.
• Akutare wrote on 2012-07-05 19:01

  Quote from Darkboy132;901572:

  You're missing the point. C1 isn't supposed to be "ONE SHOT EVERYONE" mode.
  Stop retreating behind 100~s and look at this a newbie's point.

  Except that C1 can be one-shotted with perfect ease, and it's nowhere near as difficult for a newbie to find that kind of person as you're making it out to be.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2012-07-05 19:12

  Quote from Akutare;901577:

  Except that C1 can be one-shotted with perfect ease, and it's nowhere near as difficult for a newbie to find that kind of person as you're making it out to be.

  
  
  .... I GIVE UP. You're impossible to reason with.:gloom3::gloom:
• Akutare wrote on 2012-07-05 19:14

  Quote from Darkboy132;901591:

  .... I GIVE UP. You're impossible to reason with.:gloom3::gloom:

  
  Yes, yes you are.
• Singha wrote on 2012-07-05 19:16

  Quote from Darkboy132;901591:

  .... I GIVE UP. You're impossible to reason with.:gloom3::gloom:

  
  
  It's okay. Just give him the ":*" face and he'll love you.
• Darkist wrote on 2012-07-05 19:18

  Quote from Singha;901598:

  It's okay. Just give him the ":*" face and he'll love you.

  
  
  pls.
• Zyferous wrote on 2012-07-05 19:20

  Quote from Darkboy132;901572:

  ONCE AGAIN C1 is introductionary. A lv ~100's chances of survival are very slim.
  If you REALLY REALLY want a "challenge", then tell the devs to make a BAOL NORMAL with EXACTLY THE SAME MOBS AS BAOL FINAL, HOW ABOUT IT?!
  

  
  
  Introductory doesn't mean easy. Sure they might die a few times, but why make a final that people can easily clear on their first try? Any well designed boss fight should have the average player scratching his head at how to beat it until he learns from his mistakes and attempt it for the second or third time.
  
  You saying that their chances of survival are very slim, but that is not true either. Like I said, people managed to beat it before and most old players have very fond memories of G3 final. Why fix something that isn't broken in the first place?