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Slayerj wrote on 2012-08-10 01:56

Quote from Darkboy132;930480:
-Defense skill should add base Magic Defense.
-All skills that affect defense should also affect magic defense.
-Magic Mastery needs to contribute to both magic damage and defense.
-Lullaby's sleep ability and Frozen Blast's effect has a thirty second cooldown.
-Enduring Melody should increase HP regen slightly.
-Harvest Song needs to start earlier.
-Vivace should contribute to Bow/Xbow Aim Speed.
-Daily Quests that provides AP Pots.
-More Instruments, including the Violin

I agree to all but lullaby and how long that is for Frozen. First, Lullaby only effects a monster ONCE. Frozen blast is fast for a reason, and also it's not very good till higher ranks. 30 cool down for something that might not even work half the time...just..noooooooooo XD

AP quests YES. I don't care if they're just 5ap. FK we need that! XD
Darkboy132 wrote on 2012-08-10 02:49

Quote from Slayerj;930494:
I agree to all but lullaby and how long that is for Frozen. First, Lullaby only effects a monster ONCE. Frozen blast is fast for a reason, and also it's not very good till higher ranks. 30 cool down for something that might not even work half the time...just..noooooooooo XD

AP quests YES. I don't care if they're just 5ap. FK we need that! XD

Lullaby affecting a monster ONCE is stupid. Should have some freaking cooldown before it can be affected again.

Frozen Blast, on the other hand, lasts for like 15 seconds (at r1 last I checked), and that's pretty long...
tyu161 wrote on 2012-08-10 04:21

revamp fire/volcano cylenders for more max damage. Tidal/water get 30 max flame 19 then they get another 30 with s type upgrades n we get another 19.Not fair we should get at least 30. Then redo ra enchants for flame 2 be equal to water. Mabi is so biased 2 water alchs.
Tropacat wrote on 2012-08-10 04:39

Quote from tyu161;930592:
revamp fire/volcano cylenders for more max damage. Tidal/water get 30 max flame 19 then they get another 30 with s type upgrades n we get another 19.Not fair we should get at least 30. Then redo ra enchants for flame 2 be equal to water. Mabi is so biased 2 water alchs.

I hope you know, Flameburst hits Five times while Watercannon hits 1 time.

+10 Water Damage = 10+ damage to watercannon
+10 Fire Damage = 50+ damage to flameburst

If you want "Equility"
+10 Water Damage
+2 Fire Damage
tyu161 wrote on 2012-08-10 04:54

(to post above)
Valid point but do u know how low 1 flameburst charge damage is it would rlly help when we dont have time 2 load 4-5 charges it would do op n acording 2 your own advice water alchemist guild u can do 3k 5 charge wc damage n 6k crits so wc isint suffring 2 bad we would have op heatbuster crits though.
Tropacat wrote on 2012-08-10 05:03

Quote from tyu161;930618:
(to post above)
Valid point but do u know how low 1 flameburst charge damage is it would rlly help when we dont have time 2 load 4-5 charges it would do op n acording 2 your own advice water alchemist guild u can do 3k 5 charge wc damage n 6k crits so wc isint suffring 2 bad we would have op heatbuster crits though.

Your english... Ugh

But, if you think Flameburst is bad where it's at, An end-game Flameburster can pull off more DPS then a Watercannon user, though, I only really use Flameburst for some situations anyways.

Too bad Watercannon Isn't a AoE that Ignores Protection for Critical rates.
Ikezawa Hanako wrote on 2012-08-10 05:11

Quote from Johny;930399:
This sounds interesting, but I think it would be pointless for a number of reasons. 1st reason is magic already has a natural elemental multiplier to it. Use icebolt against a red skeleton and you'll see what i mean. 2nd, I believe reforges that increase elemental mastery bonus damage already exist (well, i've seen reforges for bolt mastery damage at least, i don't know about the elemental masteries). Finally, reforges that add base damage directly to the spells are better at raising magic damage in the end IMO.

1: Magic elemental reforge would be mechanically different from melee/range ones.
2: The existing elemental mastery bonuses flat out suck compared to elemental reforges.
3: I suppose, but not sure.
Yoshi18 wrote on 2012-08-10 05:21

Quote from tyu161;930618:

A valid point but do you know how low one flameburst charge damage is? It would really help if we, the flame alchemists, didn't have to load 4-5 charges to do op damage. And according to your own experience, you can do 3k with a 5 charged Water Cannon (Wc) and 6k criticals, so Wc isn't suffering too bad. We would have op heatbuster criticals though.

1st: Grammar, spelling, English fixed, I think.

2nd: I do fine with the flame alchemy enchants that I have. Sure, getting in only one or two charges does suck, but that's what pets are for. The only reason I can do so much damage with my flame burst is because I buy the time with my AoE pets.

3rd: Tropa, if you're talking about solely Water Alchemists versus Fire Alchemists, I'm not really sure who comes out on top since you get enough charges for either skill, you can do quite a bid of damage. However, Fire Alchemists have to wait five seconds to get that 2.5k (no crits) to 7-8k (some or all crits, highly unlikely even with it ignoring protection. 30% chance is still only 30% chance, and in Mabi, it's hellish to get a crit sometimes), while Water Alchemists on the the other hand, can spam that Wc until a heat buster comes around after about two full charged blasts.
Tropacat wrote on 2012-08-10 05:52

Quote from Yoshi18;930633:
[SIZE="1"]1st: Grammar, spelling, English fixed, I think.

2nd: I do fine with the flame alchemy enchants that I have. Sure, getting in only one or two charges does suck, but that's what pets are for. The only reason I can do so much damage with my flame burst is because I buy the time with my AoE pets.

3rd: Tropa, if you're talking about solely Water Alchemists versus Fire Alchemists, I'm not really sure who comes out on top since you get enough charges for either skill, you can do quite a bid of damage. However, Fire Alchemists have to wait five seconds to get that 2.5k (no crits) to 7-8k (some or all crits, highly unlikely even with it ignoring protection. 30% chance is still only 30% chance, and in Mabi, it's hellish to get a crit sometimes), while Water Alchemists on the the other hand, can spam that Wc until a heat buster comes around after about two full charged blasts. [/SIZE]

Well, you do strike a Point, though that doesn't change the fact FB is an AoE skills and Protection ignoring.

Still, if Flame alch did get more damage enchants, people would still have to fully charge flameburst still.

Thought, Why would someone wanna use Purely Flame or Water? I feel flameburst is a room starter. you could fully charge it if your ina wide area or have Pets to take care of Arrgoing monsters. Though, I do find usefulness in FB in places like Falias, Sulfur spider mission and the hornets in Scath.

Its just how you use it.
tyu161 wrote on 2012-08-10 06:00

Doing this with a wii remote so yea, but i say the more flame damage the better. Your 7-8k damage all crits is crazy high for us not even over 1k ppl and since alch damage mostly of due 2 enchants, 2 do that type of damage u need enchants like Synergy, cowboy, flame,magma. Stuff us newer players can't obtain.I did get magma due 2 gacha but no rk3 heatbuster no rk3 flame mastry so no effect. lol. Wotked realy hard on gramer this time but hell im on summer vacation not gonna worry about stuff like that.
Tropacat wrote on 2012-08-10 06:17

Quote from tyu161;930670:
Doing this with a wii remote so yea, but i say the more flame damage the better. Your 7-8k damage all crits is crazy high for us not even over 1k ppl and since alch damage mostly of due 2 enchants, 2 do that type of damage u need enchants like Synergy, cowboy, flame,magma. Stuff us newer players can't obtain.I did get magma due 2 gacha but no rk3 heatbuster no rk3 flame mastry so no effect. lol. Wotked realy hard on gramer this time but hell im on summer vacation not gonna worry about stuff like that.us

In bold, always.

Why do you think Fire enchants get lower numbers then Water?

I do hope you know enchants stack with Charges, ie: 5 Flame damage enchant + 5 charges = 25, and that adds up to 125 after flameburst does it's 5 hits.
To really fix this problem, make flameburst load faster. As well as give Water Cannon more Potential damage then it already has, cause heck, flameburst does better in Alby advanced hardmode then Watercannon.
Watercannon is a Single target skill, not like Flame which can hit all monsters in it's range.
Gotta learn to fully charge Flameburst more.

Lets get back on topic...
Yoshi18 wrote on 2012-08-10 06:23

Quote from Tropacat;930661:
[SPOILER="Spoiler"]Well, you do strike a Point, though that doesn't change the fact FB is an AoE skills and Protection ignoring.

Still, if Flame alch did get more damage enchants, people would still have to fully charge flameburst still.

Thought, Why would someone wanna use Purely Flame or Water? I feel flameburst is a room starter. you could fully charge it if your ina wide area or have Pets to take care of Arrgoing monsters. Though, I do find usefulness in FB in places like Falias, Sulfur spider mission and the hornets in Scath.

Its just how you use it.[/SPOILER]

That's true; it all comes down to how your use your skills. I usually follow up a 5 charge FB with a Wc or Wind Blast to get in a heat buster.

I'm probably not as versatile as you between Wc and FB since I don't have the enchants needed to do serious damage with Wc, but I do use it when I want to clear a dungeon that has few stronger monsters.

By the way, if you actively hunt the Hornets in Scathach, what do they drop that you want? The commerce items?

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Quote from tyu161;930670:
[SPOILER="Spoiler"]Doing this with a wii remote so yea, but i say the more flame damage the better. Your 7-8k damage all crits is crazy high for us not even over 1k ppl and since alch damage mostly of due 2 enchants, 2 do that type of damage u need enchants like Synergy, cowboy, flame,magma. Stuff us newer players can't obtain.I did get magma due 2 gacha but no rk3 heatbuster no rk3 flame mastry so no effect. lol. Wotked realy hard on gramer this time but hell im on summer vacation not gonna worry about stuff like that.[/SPOILER]

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Oh, okay. Now I understand. The Wii doesn't like the Internet much. That pointing thing can get annoying. :gloom3:

As for your enchant problem, guilds are good for helping you get the enchants that aren't personalized. You can get a flamerider set, heated accessories, cowboy (if you have a good enough party with people that can offset your handicap and are lucky), hot, and explosive (from the enchant ptj in belvast).

Use this to look up where you can get the enchant in more detail and if you have the correct skill ranks to get the Fire Alchemy damage when you can get to a computer.
Tropacat wrote on 2012-08-10 06:49

@Yoshi

They drop Diamonds, Butterfly ES(Which can be sold for alot) and Pollen.
tyu161 wrote on 2012-08-10 16:10

I want them 2 redo 2 hand damage again. Wars have max damage of 90, dont have wiki to check but i think most 2hand damage ends at 98-99 so duel wars almost double that of most 2 hands. D fangs with max of 134 still have less then 50 damage duel wars n i think less then max damage duel glads again no wiki so idk.
Also let humans go back n forth from dk n pally.
N last a frekin nemcomancing tab. I wanna summon fkin zombies. idk what other skill maby have demon summons or just rlly big zombies idk lol just like zombies.
iSheep wrote on 2012-08-10 18:38

Quote from tyu161;930921:
I want them 2 redo 2 hand damage again. Wars have max damage of 90, dont have wiki to check but i think most 2hand damage ends at 98-99 so duel wars almost double that of most 2 hands. D fangs with max of 134 still have less then 50 damage duel wars n i think less then max damage duel glads again no wiki so idk.
Also let humans go back n forth from dk n pally.
N last a frekin nemcomancing tab. I wanna summon fkin zombies. idk what other skill maby have demon summons or just rlly big zombies idk lol just like zombies.

Your post. O_O

I think two handed damage is a bit balanced because you (assuming you're a giant since you're talking about dual warhammers) can use a shield with them.

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