September Patch Update

• RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-09-26 14:37

  Quote from Halfslashed;955892:

  since it can eliminate some class discrimination (Except for karoks, because they're usually forgotten).

  
  So I just played with a pillar Karok last night.
  
  He got 32% in 10 minutes on Keaghan. 16.6K/10K though.
  
  That's really good. As player, though, he was super aggressive and clearly knew his shit. He was the best Karok I've ever seen. Kinda changed my opinion on the potential of Karok.
  

  Quote from OizenX;955906:

  I don't really find Lann, (sword lann anyway) all that hard to play anymore. He's less crit reliant, slip dash is pretty amazing now.

  
  That's just Master and the replacement of Explosive with Relentless. I swear he's always been like that. Oh, and the weapon upgrade.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2012-09-26 17:43

  Quote from Continuum;955974:

  I feel like everyone needs more SP skills in general. Though we did get those new ones, I still feel like we need more, with more effects rather than just purely attacking ones.

  
  
  4's plenty. Rebalance the ones we have now (*cough* F7 *cough) then we can get more.
• RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-09-26 17:45
  What do people really want to happen to F7? I think it's fine the way it is now.
• MareneCorp wrote on 2012-09-26 17:52

  Quote from RebeccaBlack;956065:

  What do people really want to happen to F7? I think it's fine the way it is now.

  
  
  Lag is always an issue that comes to mind, but that would be a general thing. Besides, Nexon won't ever do much about their cheap servers.
• Hobo wrote on 2012-09-26 18:15
  The lag cancels out some of the furious 7 swings.
• Oizen wrote on 2012-09-26 19:31

  Quote from RebeccaBlack;956065:

  What do people really want to happen to F7? I think it's fine the way it is now.

  
  I think Furious 6 is just fine, but Furious 5 tends to get on my nerves, especially when I'm using Furious 4, and it just decides to cut off a few glides, really ruins your DPS when Furious 3 fails on you.
  
  (seewatIdidthar?)
  
  But Honestly, I don't like how it requires Precise aiming 7 times (Assuming you Get 7 glides), while the boss is free to just jump away, rest of the classes just need to aim once, hell Evie's RG is amazing when it works, its even a pretty long stun.
  
  

  Quote from RebeccaBlack;955998:

  So I just played with a pillar Karok last night.
  
  He got 32% in 10 minutes on Keaghan. 16.6K/10K though.
  
  That's really good. As player, though, he was super aggressive and clearly knew his shit. He was the best Karok I've ever seen. Kinda changed my opinion on the potential of Karok.
  
  That's just Master and the replacement of Explosive with Relentless. I swear he's always been like that. Oh, and the weapon upgrade.

  
  
  Not really.
  
  I mean yeah, in these arguments you're just going to say "Nope I'm right", but I'm really liking the general buff to slip dash.
  
  Lion's Double Claw, Keaghan's little... ball things, Thor's dash, Colru's punch spam, and Titan's dash are all a lot easier to dodge for me now that slip dash goes a nice range.
  
  As for his damage without a good weapon, I've messed around with my former swords before selling them. Its... better?
• RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-09-26 21:09
  Oh. Well yeah, swords got a pretty big buff, but they already were quite good, and I think they'd seem pretty terrible before scroll/weapon changes.
  
  I've never really had trouble aiming F7, but I haven't played under extreme lag in a while because I host most of the things I play now.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2012-09-27 02:35

  Quote from OizenX;956093:

  But Honestly, I don't like how it requires Precise aiming 7 times (Assuming you Get 7 glides), while the boss is free to just jump away, rest of the classes just need to aim once, hell Evie's RG is amazing when it works, its even a pretty long stun.

  
  
  Big Bad Lion can just run away from one side of the room to the other and/or leap platforms, too, making the whole thing miss altogether. Plus a two minute cooldown is way too long. Moon Splitter + Slashing High does a better job than this crap.
• TheBoulder wrote on 2012-09-28 16:15

  Quote from Darkboy132;955849:

  And I just found something even more unfair: Karoks can use Fists (FISTS, not Cestus) normal aerial attacks. -_-

  
  
  a bit of a late quote sure, but the reason for this is because pillar Karok has "unarmed combat" as a set of subskills to fall back on after he does Pillar Toss.
• foreignreign wrote on 2012-09-28 18:46

  Quote from OizenX;956093:

  Lion's Double Claw, Keaghan's little... ball things, Thor's dash, Colru's punch spam, and Titan's dash are all a lot easier to dodge for me now that slip dash goes a nice range.

  
  
  Other than Thor's charge... everything you listed was already easy to dodge for Lann.
• Oizen wrote on 2012-09-28 18:54

  Quote from foreignreign;956816:

  Other than Thor's charge... everything you listed was already easy to dodge for Lann.

  
  Prove it?
• RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-09-28 19:21
  It's a little hard to prove now, isn't it?
• Oizen wrote on 2012-09-28 19:25

  Quote from RebeccaBlack;956827:

  It's a little hard to prove now, isn't it?

  
  
  I'd like to see how to competently dodge some of that stuff pre ignition :|
  
  I got stuck on those balls of death with slip dash for the longest of time, it came down to just slip dashing in a square until they blew up
• RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-09-28 19:39
  On Keaghan?
  
  I think they can still be slipped, but you can also walk around them. Just have one go to one side and the other to the other side, and they'll orbit you until they explode. If you try to run in one direction or something like that then yeah, they'll hurt.
  
  There's several ways like that of dealing with them, but it kinda depends on positioning. That one should work unconditionally.
• Oizen wrote on 2012-09-28 20:52

  Quote from RebeccaBlack;956838:

  On Keaghan?
  
  I think they can still be slipped, but you can also walk around them. Just have one go to one side and the other to the other side, and they'll orbit you until they explode. If you try to run in one direction or something like that then yeah, they'll hurt.
  
  There's several ways like that of dealing with them, but it kinda depends on positioning. That one should work unconditionally.

  
  
  New slip dash is just one dodge to avoid them.
  
  Im talking about the old slip.