<South Korea Lute Server Ch.8> Protest in Rath Castle about G13 Update

• starpaw7 wrote on 2010-07-28 17:52

  Quote from Mario;107952:

  D:
  Not sure if it worked well.
  the picture only showed us them protesting.
  I wonder if nexon responded to it.

  
  
  
  devCat* :what:
• Chihaya wrote on 2010-07-29 05:18
  I wonder if Nexon even pays attention to these protests =.=;;
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-07-29 05:20
  Nexon NA? no. Nexon KR? hell yea.
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-07-29 07:01

  Quote from Juno;107899:

  Oh and fyi, the archer class is probably going to be identical to the bard class without the music yet people will be totally satisfied.

  
  
  Uhm, no. We don't get all our skills fried except the main range skills and some magic, plus this annoying aggro-sponge support skill.
  We'll still have our barrier spikes, golem, adv magic, etc, not to mention other skills that are important to ranged.
  
  And plus, what if devcat put a label on giants, "Jesters" or "Mimes" or something? I bet people'd be upset over that.
  
  Music has no relation to archers whatsoever, it was quite an insult to have Knights, Wizards, Alchemists, Merchants, and Bards basically being the odd duck and having no relation to its class's main attack.
• Taliya wrote on 2010-07-29 07:11
  Giants can't wear Jester Robe! Q.Q
  
  /tangent
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-07-29 07:26
  START A RIOT!
• Juno wrote on 2010-07-29 07:41

  Quote from Kazuni;109378:

  Uhm, no. We don't get all our skills fried except the main range skills and some magic, plus this annoying aggro-sponge support skill.
  We'll still have our barrier spikes, golem, adv magic, etc, not to mention other skills that are important to ranged.
  
  And plus, what if devcat put a label on giants, "Jesters" or "Mimes" or something? I bet people'd be upset over that.
  
  Music has no relation to archers whatsoever, it was quite an insult to have Knights, Wizards, Alchemists, Merchants, and Bards basically being the odd duck and having no relation to its class's main attack.

  
  
  Pretty sure you still can't rank those other skills, which is as close as it gets considering the overall changes.
  
  I can understand being slighted over not having a namesake though since Devcat has been rather clear that archery is meant to support rather than stand alone it's to be expected.
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-07-29 07:43
  Human archers are the support.
  Elven archers can stand alone.
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-07-29 07:47

  Quote from Juno;109469:

  Pretty sure you still can't rank those other skills, which is as close as it gets considering the overall changes.
  
  I can understand being slighted over not having a namesake though since Devcat has been rather clear that archery is meant to support rather than stand alone it's to be expected.

  
  
  At least they're useable, that's all I care about.
  
  

  Quote from bradstrt;109473:

  Human archers are the support.
  Elven archers can stand alone.

  
  
  With the help of barrier spikes or a wm pet, indeed we can :>
• Juno wrote on 2010-07-29 07:49

  Quote from bradstrt;109473:

  Human archers are the support.
  Elven archers can stand alone.

  
  
  Touche~
  
  I think that was the idea with elves, that they could use ranged as their main/only form of attack at the cost of gimped melee. Oddly familiar, no? Giants were supposed to be able to melee their way through anything at the cost of gimped range and slightly gimped magic though that didn't quite work out so well. I suppose melee is harder to balance though, very easy to go too far...but I feel like they just stopped caring .-.
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-07-29 07:51

  Quote from Juno;109483:

  Touche~
  
  I think that was the idea with elves, that they could use ranged as their main/only form of attack at the cost of gimped melee. Oddly familiar, no? Giants were supposed to be able to melee their way through anything at the cost of gimped range and slightly gimped magic though that didn't quite work out so well. I suppose melee is harder to balance though, very easy to go too far...but I feel like they just stopped caring .-.

  
  
  But melee has a hell lot more skills. Wm, smash, counter, defense. Seems to always have a backup plan.
  
  While ranged, is either shootshootshootYAY, or shootshootshootDEAD.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2010-07-29 10:02

  Quote from Kazuni;109485:

  But melee has a hell lot more skills. Wm, smash, counter, defense. Seems to always have a backup plan.
  
  While ranged, is either shootshootshootYAY, or shootshootshootDEAD.

  
  
  1. You're arguing with a Giant lover :punch:
  (I went there)
  
  2. I don't care if Archer ends up exactly the same as Bard. DevCat probably made the switch after a Korean mob shot arrows through their windows. It let's us know that DevCat doesn't consider range a dead/joke form of combat.
  
  3. Mages are the true enemy. Melée is in a similar boat. WM, WM, WM, WM, Smash!
• Taliya wrote on 2010-07-29 12:47
  Really now? Most people stop WM spamming once their HP hits 300, or at least they should. As of now mine in is in the 400s so I WM as little as possible.
• Juno wrote on 2010-07-29 19:15

  Quote from Kazuni;109485:

  But melee has a hell lot more skills. Wm, smash, counter, defense. Seems to always have a backup plan.
  
  While ranged, is either shootshootshootYAY, or shootshootshootDEAD.

  
  
  More skills doesn't mean there's always a backup plan. They help make melee a solid choice for 1v1 but only windmill gives any chance against multi-aggro and that's iffy at best. While I know consecutive misses happen, elves aim/shoot/load fast enough that they should be able to get several shots off on a charging monster. If one hits, they can aim to 99% before the stun ends even if the enemy has light natural shield. If all else fails they can play dead for a while then insta hide to drop aggro.
  
  Giants on the other hand don't have access to play dead. If they get overwhelmed they just have to grin and bear it...but you know how tanking goes in this game...Furthermore, the situation occurs more frequently since they're in the thick of things rather than off to the side.
  
  Ranged is notably less varied
  
  

  Quote from Kaeporo;109550:

  1. You're arguing with a Giant lover :punch:
  (I went there)
  
  2. I don't care if Archer ends up exactly the same as Bard. DevCat probably made the switch after a Korean mob shot arrows through their windows. It let's us know that DevCat doesn't consider range a dead/joke form of combat.
  
  3. Mages are the true enemy. Melée is in a similar boat. WM, WM, WM, WM, Smash!

  
  
  I love giants, but I don't let that stop me from being objective .-.
  
  If that actually happened, I would probably never stop laughing o3o
  
  WM spam only works with pet play...and anything works with pet play. If you have a cat set to icebolt enemies you can chain magnums till the cows come in to roost with no danger.
• Chockeh wrote on 2010-07-29 20:32

  Quote from bradstrt;109473:

  Human archers are the support.
  Elven archers can stand alone.

  
  That's true enough, but human archers really can support themselves enough.
  Worst case, you can WM or Play Dead.