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Enoshima Smoothie wrote on 2013-04-22 17:01
Quote from BizarreJuju;1072719:
Anyone can draw using a tablet
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Just throwing this out there, if you do start drawing with a tablet I advise you to hook it up to a computer without internet access or to disconnect yourself from the net if you're easily distracted.
But a tablet is always a nice option. Being able to sketch on multiple layers and then being able to just erase parts of one layer and keeping parts of another is fantastic. Lining can get a little hard if you don't have a steady hand, but there are options in some programs that can help you with that. (Or you could print out your digital sketch and line it by hand, but this only works if you have a scanner to scan it back in or if you color traditionally)
Working digitally is much more complicated than it seems but it's relatively easy once you get over the first initial learning curve like getting used to the more "gliding" feeling instead of the "grabbing" feeling of traditional drawing. Plus once you start drawing digitally you'll literally have an unlimited arsenal of colors and brushes and all sorts of neat tools that for the most part you don't have to pay for!
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2013-04-22 17:44
Quote from Chiyuri;1013197:
I don't really see myself trying 221 times in a row to draw one circle every time I want to draw a face. The paper is gonna be dark in pensil dust before I am done.
You don't have to do it over again every single time. Your brain will get used to the motion and it'll come as second nature to you eventually. It's just like professional cooks being able to cut their stuff fast and exactly from the get-go, or a pianist knowing intuitively which key corresponds to which tone.
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Taycat wrote on 2013-04-22 19:01
The thing where Juju suggested taking a scanned pencil picture and darkening the lines is something I do all the time. At least, when I'm drawing and scanning...it can also make it easy for you to erase those pesky stray marks and tell-tale eraser smudges. I'd say try it! And then, you can easily color your pictures.
For instance, try the "color first, then erase excess" method. it's pretty good and you can always separate the sections off later on.
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Shanghai wrote on 2013-04-22 22:32
When I got my tablet way back in Christmas time, I told myself I would use it when I got better. I still haven't really gotten into it yet since I'm not satisfied with my sketching skill to handle coloring and shading yet.
Traditional drawing is a lot more responsive when it comes to getting your ideas from your head down on paper. It feels more natural, can't really describe it. It certainly has a different feel to digital drawing, and honestly I think I prefer it better even if I didn't really get down with it on my tablet. Using lighter lines and sketch marks to guide your pencil is ever so important because of those permanent marks you can leave. I recommend getting a high quality eraser to alleviate some of that(just don't mark in too hard so you leave indents on the paper, I got out of that habit after a few months). I know of several comic book artists that lay down their ideas on paper, ink it and scan it, then edit it on Photoshop to give it its full effect. It's just personal preference to sketch and finish on a tablet, or sketch on paper and finish with a tablet, I guess.
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BizarreJuju wrote on 2013-04-23 05:44
Quote from Chiyuri;1073067:
And with paper I just feel limited. There is a limit to the amount of time I can redraw a line before it leave a permanent trace on the paper.. so I feel limited to the amount of retries I can do. for example my lastest drawing I was forced to end it like what it is right now as I reached the limit of redrawing.
You are never limited, or more like there is never a limit in drawing and art. That negativity of yours is just setting "a limit for yourself". There is nothing wrong with drawing or going over your work. Nothing can be done in one-shot, however if you are scared of drawing with pencil, try doing several sketch all in ball-point pen. Its more clearer and not need to worry about erasing, you can keep track of where you drew.
Its easier to give-up than pushing yourself/finding new methods.
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Jedo wrote on 2013-04-23 05:46
I have been drawing for six years of my life and still can't use a tablet. I have no idea, they just mess me up, for example I find it really confusing to draw on the tablet but look on the computer screen. xD I wish I could though since then I could make my art so much prettier.
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BizarreJuju wrote on 2013-04-23 06:16
Quote from Jedo;1073569:
I have been drawing for six years of my life and still can't use a tablet. I have no idea, they just mess me up, for example I find it really confusing to draw on the tablet but look on the computer screen. xD I wish I could though since then I could make my art so much prettier.
Another issue is the tablet size, I started off drawing on a 4 x 6-Inch tablet back in Sophomore year, I gotta say it was a pain in the ass to draw on something small. Got a Intuos3 9 x 12-Inch after after graduation (working part-time), the larger space to draw on felt better than drawing on a small tablet. but when it comes to drawing, its easier using SAI (not for mac) and drawing on layer over layer. However I prefer drawing on a small sketchbook before taking my idea from scratch onto tablet (my sketchbook is like my guidebook).
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xXAlexa33Xx wrote on 2013-04-23 09:34
Quote from Jedo;1073569:
I have been drawing for six years of my life and still can't use a tablet. I have no idea, they just mess me up, for example I find it really confusing to draw on the tablet but look on the computer screen. xD I wish I could though since then I could make my art so much prettier.
That's how it was for me, at first. xD I mean, it's obviously not a natural way to draw, lol. Just gotta stick with it, maaan. You get used to it eventually, and when you do, you'll be happy that you decided to stick with it.
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Chiyuri wrote on 2013-04-23 10:38
Quote from BizarreJuju;1073567:
You are never limited, or more like there is never a limit in drawing and art. That negativity of yours is just setting "a limit for yourself". There is nothing wrong with drawing or going over your work. Nothing can be done in one-shot, however if you are scared of drawing with pencil, try doing several sketch all in ball-point pen. Its more clearer and not need to worry about erasing, you can keep track of where you drew.
Its easier to give-up than pushing yourself/finding new methods.
hmm, true, but mentaly speaking and resource speaking, I got limits.
When I draw I tend to errace and redraw every single line of the drawing 3-4 times before I am content with the line. Redrawing the same line more than 8 times start to dirty the paper so I consider 8 redraw to be the limit. If I went beyond that limit, the drawing would be difficult to make up on a cellphone picture as it would look blurry, hence hard to share.
As for doing them in ball-point pen... Like I previously said.. I usually need ot redraw the same line 3-4 times.. ink would not alow me to redraw so I would have to ditch the paper every time I need to redraw a line. Even if I get a few lines perfect from the start, the moment I mess up one line.. I would have to give up on the entire work I did and restart anew on another paper.. and there is no garenty I will not mess up the lines again on that next one.. So in the end the amount of paper and time I would use could very easily get extremely long -.-.. I don't have such kind of endurance nor the availeble time to draw with ball-point pen...
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Shanghai wrote on 2013-04-23 12:07
Quote from Chiyuri;1073660:
hmm, true, but mentaly speaking and resource speaking, I got limits.
When I draw I tend to errace and redraw every single line of the drawing 3-4 times before I am content with the line. Redrawing the same line more than 8 times start to dirty the paper so I consider 8 redraw to be the limit. If I went beyond that limit, the drawing would be difficult to make up on a cellphone picture as it would look blurry, hence hard to share.
As for doing them in ball-point pen... Like I previously said.. I usually need ot redraw the same line 3-4 times.. ink would not alow me to redraw so I would have to ditch the paper every time I need to redraw a line. Even if I get a few lines perfect from the start, the moment I mess up one line.. I would have to give up on the entire work I did and restart anew on another paper.. and there is no garenty I will not mess up the lines again on that next one.. So in the end the amount of paper and time I would use could very easily get extremely long -.-.. I don't have such kind of endurance nor the availeble time to draw with ball-point pen...
Your problem lies with... your lack of skill. An seasoned artist probably knows how to get his/her ideas on paper exponentially faster because he/she has done it for so long. The mistakes of a novice disappear, and an artist learns how to draw efficiently through practice and has a better mindset towards knowing where lines would go, where to fill in, etc. Like Juju said before, practice is key, so drawing more would only solve your problems. It isn't something you can solve over-night, but over a long time which most artists and painters have done.
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Chiyuri wrote on 2013-04-23 12:16
Quote from Shanghai;1073669:
Your problem lies with... your lack of skill. An seasoned artist probably knows how to get his/her ideas on paper exponentially faster because he/she has done it for so long. The mistakes of a novice disappear, and an artist learns how to draw efficiently through practice and has a better mindset towards knowing where lines would go, where to fill in, etc. Like Juju said before, practice is key, so drawing more would only solve your problems. It isn't something you can solve over-night, but over a long time which most artists and painters have done.
Well I didn't expect to have leet drawing skill after only around 15 drawings over the span of 3 months. Honestly having this 40 hours per week work is draining all of my free time. Can't draw as much as I want.
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Chiyuri wrote on 2013-05-12 20:23
Been so busy but I finally got around finishing one more lineart(I so want a tablet to skip over the need of lineart...)
here is my newest lineart.
[Image: http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/132/e/8/alexandra_lineart_by_chiyuriyami-d651v4g.jpg]
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Hanna wrote on 2013-05-13 04:52
you're doing great
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Chiyuri wrote on 2013-05-27 02:06
Thanks ^^;
Took me a while but I finished another lineart (technicly I finished two since the last one but the other one didn't feel good enough to post)
So here is the lineart of my fish girl, based on Kenero.
[Image: http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/146/4/2/yulaseca_lineart_by_chiyuriyami-d66psw4.jpg]
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Chiyuri wrote on 2013-06-04 13:58
Small update.
Well I'm back to one of the hardest part of drawing... Shading.. Trying to shade with a pen tablet make it easier but like usual I have trouble figuring out how to shade. hopefully I should be able to show a finish product this week.