[Updated]The Official Censorship Discussion

• Xemnas wrote on 2013-04-05 07:29

  Quote from Lyrveil;1063313:

  I think said words can be used in a non-offensive toward anyone way.

  
  
  I'd honestly like to see someone try and use these in non offensive ways.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2013-04-05 07:37

  Quote from Xemnas;1063317:

  I'd honestly like to see someone try and use these in non offensive ways.

  
  
  Christian and I call each other fggot and gook all the time nonoffensively.
  
  OP and Ashikoki already touched on this but the word fggot has become a meme that, to those who use it, literally mean nothing. It is attached at the end of every noun. He's a new***. I'm a LoL***. She's a gym***. And OP is always a ***.
  
  A long while back before the rule change I used this image macro and not one person cared. Most people found it funny. OP knew I meant no harm by it.
  
  

  [Image: http://i.minus.com/iYuDQwfPx8YbY.jpg]

  
  
  It'd be great if we could just go back to being more... simpler. When we didn't point fingers or hide under veils of righteousness.
  
  Not that I want to defame anyone, but the person responsible for making the rule wasn't very keen on following it herself outside of the forums anyways. She stood by her belief in banning this word so much to the point she banned me for using it, but constantly used it in chats and games. The hypocrisy hurt so bad.
  
  Edit: here is an example. Completely inoffensive, nondirected usage of the word ***. They closed my thread though because it broke the rules.
  
  

  [Image: http://i.minus.com/iq8YrK4wvHv5w.gif]
• Lyrveil wrote on 2013-04-05 07:37
  Well okay non offensive is kind of far fetched. I meant more of a "Not directly aimed at someone with the goal of hurting that person".
  
  But sure I can think of one situation where the f word wouldnt be offensive. Two actually. Friends calling each other with said word playfully. No hurt is done except maybe the butthurt of certain people around them who take offense to it.
  
  And the original meaning of the word.
• Llama wrote on 2013-04-05 07:42
  Since this topic will probably affect the community until the last day of mabination career, i will make a poll for the people here to vote either for or against censorship. I understand osay made it clear that we no longer have censors, but having only a few words censored when there are whole lot more vocabularies that are way worse than the words we've already discussed, are not censored and has probably been used in both offensive and non-offensive ways.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2013-04-05 07:48
  Honestly I'm not a fan of poll results as I can see the default state of mind, even mine, being that of saying "we should ban the word fggot and ngger!"
  
  But then after reading all the discussion you could learn to see why it would be better to just remove the censorship altogether.
  
  Except most voters aren't going to read any of that debate.
  
  Suddenly it seems like actual government elections.
• Llama wrote on 2013-04-05 07:50

  Quote from Cucurbita;1063324:

  Suddenly it seems like actual government elections.

  
  
  Well, this way will make people think it's actually serious. well, i mean it is serious.
• Taycat wrote on 2013-04-05 07:52
  Honestly, if you're going to allow fuck shit bitch cunt or any of the derivatives, why not allow n**ger or fa*got?
• Llama wrote on 2013-04-05 07:54
  That is the aim of this thread.
  Either censor all the way, or fuck censors, piss off.
• Ashikoki wrote on 2013-04-05 07:57
  Right. If this motion fails then I'll just have to fix the inconsistency by adding every offensive and derogatory slur to the list of censors and you guys probably aren't going to like it.
• Llama wrote on 2013-04-05 07:59

  Quote from Ashikoki;1063330:

  Right. If this motion fails then I'll just have to fix the inconsistency by adding every offensive and derogatory slur to the list of censors and you guys probably aren't going to like it.

  
  
  Sorry to like offend you or something, but don't you still need approvals from other moderators and osay?
• Sepia wrote on 2013-04-05 08:02
  Nothing good will come of this, either way.
• Compass wrote on 2013-04-05 08:11
  Let's say the word gets uncensored does that mean we'll be allowed to use it if we aren't offending anyone?
  If I remember correctly someone got mad because they got infracted for say "nigguh" even though they weren't using it in the offensive way.
  It'll be pretty pointless if it becomes uncensored and we can't use it.
• Hazeri wrote on 2013-04-05 08:24
  Yay, we're back to being 4chan 2.0 again.
  Next on mabination discussion: Allow image macros back!
  
  .... Oh wait, people still abuse those.
• Llama wrote on 2013-04-05 08:29

  Quote from Hazeri;1063342:

  Yay, we're back to being 4chan 2.0 again.
  Next on mabination discussion: Allow image macros back!
  
  .... Oh wait, people still abuse those.

  
  
  This is a rather serious thing to discuss, seeing people get offended, or seeing get people offended but whoever said something offensive didn't actually mean it, or make this place a better place so people stays.
• Cynic wrote on 2013-04-05 08:36
  Look at it this way,
  
  We uncensor all the things: People are going to get pissed and rightfully offended when somebody uses certain words.
  We leave things as they are: People don't get offended and the people whining about not being able to use those words will just find something else to use.
  
  I'd prefer leaving things as they are and perhaps voting individually for other offensive words to add onto the list. Honestly, you'll never make everybody happy, but words aimed specifically at a certain group of people no place anywhere. Nobody should have to feel uncomfortable and/or irritated because some asshat decided to toss some offensive terms around and then act like they did nothing wrong.