Boston bomber caught but the Bill of Rights is now in danger.

• Hanna wrote on 2013-04-21 19:40
  I live next to a fucking military base and it was hard enough getting past security at the airport
  god fucking damn it
• Royale wrote on 2013-04-21 21:16
  Technically united states didn't violate anything because the city is under martial law, i think the question now becomes what would be the justifiable cause to declare martial law, traditionally martial law is used for times of war to protect the safety and the sovereignty of the nation or during environmental disasters to allow the use of military forces to offer relief or help overwhelmed domestic force. now terrible as it's, the boston bombing cannot be categorized as an act or of war or an environmental disaster. now i am a Canadian and we don't have martial law here, we had the war measures act which was only used 3 times, during world war 1 and 2 and during the kidnapping of two government officials in the October crisis of 1970, the uses of war measures act in 1970 caused a huge controversy and because one of the reasons war measures act was changed into emergencies act 1988 which is still bound by the charter of rights and freedoms and must be reviewed by the Parliament.
  
  The point i am getting here is that martial law should be harder to declare and have more restrictions to what the government can do during it, in fact united state could not have legally declared martial law in boston had national defense authorization act not pass in 2012, which bypass the need of congressional approval when declaring martial law.
  
  as for this case i don't think martial law is really justified , locking down the city is going a bit overboard, house to house search, pointing guns at random people and tanks are definitely unwarranted. i also think the suspect need be found guilty by a fair and clean trial, to do anything less would be an insult to the wounded and the dead.
• Claudia wrote on 2013-04-21 21:53
  ...why does everyone think that 'martial law' was declared.
  
  I think that's a pretty...overdramatic thing to call it.
• Drizzit wrote on 2013-04-21 22:21

  Quote from Claudia;1072787:

  ...why does everyone think that 'martial law' was declared.
  
  I think that's a pretty...overdramatic thing to call it.

  
  Well, the police had the entire neighborhood on lock-down. I'm not sure what else you'd call it.
  
  

  [Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LrbsUVSVl8]
• Osayidan wrote on 2013-04-21 23:03
  What I'm basically seeing in these house search videos is the boston bombers successfully used the law enforcement/armed forces to terrorize the very people that they should be protecting.
  This is what terrorism is.
  So it looks like they got what they wanted in the end.
• Q wrote on 2013-04-21 23:53

  Quote from Drizzit;1072715:

  Boston was put under Martial Law, with SWAT teams going door to door, invading people's homes, and you don't see a problem? Maybe in you country that's normal, but in ours, it violates several constitutional amendments, and people just sat back and let it happen because they were scared of one 19-year-old kid who was hiding under a boat.

  
  
  Who was tossing explosives here and there. Not like there's anything to be scared of.
• Lan wrote on 2013-04-21 23:57

  Quote from Drizzit;1072715:

  Boston was put under Martial Law, with SWAT teams going door to door, invading people's homes, and you don't see a problem? Maybe in you country that's normal, but in ours, it violates several constitutional amendments, and people just sat back and let it happen because they were scared of one 19-year-old kid who was hiding under a boat.

  
  
  

  The brothers suspected of bombing the Boston Marathon were probably planning further attacks, the city's police commissioner has said.
  
  Ed Davis told CBS News that Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev had been carrying homemade bombs and grenades which they threw at police when cornered.
  
  Speaking to CBS's Face the Nation, Mr Davis said: "We have reason to believe, based upon the evidence that was found at that scene - the explosions, the explosive ordnance that was unexploded and the firepower that they had - that they were going to attack other individuals."
  
  "That's my personal belief at this time."
  
  He said more than 250 rounds of expended ammunition were found at the scene, and that the ground was "littered with unexploded improvised explosive devices that we had to point out to the arriving officers".
  
  
  Boston police chief Ed Davis said improvised devices were strewn around the area
  Another device was found inside a car the brothers had earlier hijacked.

  
  
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22240327
• Claudia wrote on 2013-04-22 00:33

  Quote from Drizzit;1072799:

  Well, the police had the entire neighborhood on lock-down. I'm not sure what else you'd call it.
  
  

  [Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LrbsUVSVl8]

  
  
  Yes, for everyone's safety AND for the sake of catching the guy.
  
  If, for example, the MBTA had been operating, he could've been one out of 1.4 million. He would've escaped and even more civilian lives would be in danger.
• Lan wrote on 2013-04-22 00:47

  Quote from Claudia;1072846:

  Yes, for everyone's safety AND for the sake of catching the guy.
  
  If, for example, the MBTA had been operating, he could've been one out of 1.4 million. He would've escaped and even more civilian lives would be in danger.

  
  
  If he was not caught he probably would have died.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-04-22 06:17

  Quote from Compass;1072740:

  I agree with Claudia.
  Are you guys really complaining about the military coming into your house for a few minutes just to search? Everyone knew what the reason was, and everyone can agree that they want nothing to happen like this ever again.
  
  And if something like this did happen again/frequently, you people would suggest better security.
  
  Also Boston wasn't that bad. I still saw people living their life normally while walking around, and even though it was suggested that on Friday people stay inside their houses it wasn't enforced people were still hanging out being happy and what not.
  Can't really speak for Watertown since I don't go there that often even though I live 15-20 minutes away from it.

  
  
  It's called setting a precedent, Boston wasn't as bad as people say it was, but it will give future attempts more motivation for less cause. Once you start that fire...
• Eirys wrote on 2013-04-22 06:23
  Shit's intense.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-04-22 06:46

  Quote from Eirys;1073015:

  Shit's intense.

  
  
  Someone remind me what were the main causes for the american revolution? Shit stockpiling on each other over time? Progressively getting worse until the "tipping" point
• Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-04-22 11:32

  Quote from Aubog007;1073019:

  Someone remind me what were the main causes for the american revolution? Shit stockpiling on each other over time? Progressively getting worse until the "tipping" point

  
  
  What are you trying to get at with this? :o
• Phunkie wrote on 2013-04-22 13:24
  I love it how people before the chase were all for finding this guy at all costs and now criticisms are made. The government will always be an unpopular opinion. I'm glad they caught him and I hope they find out why he did it.
• Hanna wrote on 2013-04-22 14:40

  Quote from Aubog007;1073012:

  It's called setting a precedent, Boston wasn't as bad as people say it was, but it will give future attempts more motivation for less cause. Once you start that fire...

  
  
  this
  I don't like the idea of the military breaking into my fucking house whether I want them to or not
  If we let this slide, what else are we willing to let slide next?