(New) Infraction System (re)explained

• Episkey wrote on 2013-05-11 02:37

  Quote from Ithiliel;1086228:

  Epi, darling, always so caring about Nation <3 We appreciate all your feedback and concern~
  
  THAT BEING SAID MOTORMOUTH (I love you) YA GOTTA HAVE SOME FAITH IN US AND THE SYSTEM. We'll work out anything that pops up, or I know you will gladly help point things out =)

  
  
  YOU'RE TEARING ME APART -
  
  Well yeah, I have faith in [S]some[/S] the Moderation Staff - but it was just the system I had a particularly strong issue with.
  
  And yeah, I always try to do my best pointing things out. Or at least what's based on my perceptions.
• Ashikoki wrote on 2013-05-11 02:53

  However, you will not be warned again if you have been infracted with a Major infraction of the same category in the past, even if the points have expired.
  

  
  
  Added to the details of how the warnings work.
• Sumpfkraut wrote on 2013-05-11 04:40

  Quote from Episkey;1085940:

  When I view a major infraction, it's something that a person has done that is severely wrong. Major infractions aren't handed out like candy, even the most offensive (relative to the individual) statements can be given minor infractions at times.
  
  If ... someone does a major infraction, that's quite severe. 180 days is a slap on the wrist, unless ...

  
  The thing is none of the things here are actually problematic. They are just slightly annoying, unless taken to the utmost extreme, in which case they are quite annoying.
  
  Also, infraction points remaining indefinitely is pretty much the Mabination equivalent of infinite probation. That doesn't even exist as far as I am aware, for the good reason that it doesn't make sense as outlined by Ashikoki.
  
  Punishment is not the raison d'etre of so called punitive measures anymore. It's deterrence.
  
  Also, when people know they're treated as people like everyone else, instead of being constantly looked down upon, a future slip up is usually far more unlikely. Compare the recidivism rates in Norway -which follows our approach- against those in the US - which follows something akin to your approach. To call it a statistically meaningful difference is an understatement.
• Milk wrote on 2013-05-11 04:57
  Btw isn't there 2 types of bans? One the automatic point system ban and the ban that the mods do themselves? I personally like the idea of points expiring regardless of how crazy ones action were. Alot can happen in half a year. And the infraction itself does not disappear, it is still there as reference for the mods whenever they have to consider banning or not banning.
  
  EX: Timmy causes a shit storm and gets banned through the point system for half a year. He comes back and behaves for 6 monthes and all his points expire. Then timmy causes a similar shit storm. The mods now have the option to perma ban timmy because according to his infraction history he did not learn his lesson and you can assume that he would eventually do it again.
  
  And as ashi said. Good it does give the good people who just slipped one day a chance.
• Ashikoki wrote on 2013-05-11 06:34

  Quote from Milk;1086276:

  Btw isn't there 2 types of bans? One the automatic point system ban and the ban that the mods do themselves? I personally like the idea of points expiring regardless of how crazy ones action were. Alot can happen in half a year. And the infraction itself does not disappear, it is still there as reference for the mods whenever they have to consider banning or not banning.
  
  EX: Timmy causes a shit storm and gets banned through the point system for half a year. He comes back and behaves for 6 monthes and all his points expire. Then timmy causes a similar shit storm. The mods now have the option to perma ban timmy because according to his infraction history he did not learn his lesson and you can assume that he would eventually do it again.
  
  And as ashi said. Good it does give the good people who just slipped one day a chance.

  
  
  With some exceptions, like self requests or getting rid of advert accounts, I don't believe we ban members directly anymore. Almost everything is done straight through the infraction system.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-05-11 07:59

  Quote from Ashikoki;1086323:

  With some exceptions, like self requests or getting rid of advert accounts, I don't believe we ban members directly anymore. Almost everything is done straight through the infraction system.

  
  
  So no more making a point 3 day bans like what happened to several of us 2 or 3 months ago?
• Ashikoki wrote on 2013-05-11 18:45

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1086341:

  So no more making a point 3 day bans like what happened to several of us 2 or 3 months ago?

  
  
  Thats one of the reasons I decided to become admin.
• Bakuryu wrote on 2013-05-11 21:09

  Quote from Ashikoki;1086529:

  Thats one of the reasons I decided to become admin.

  
  
  That ban worked though, people ceased on being major dickheads, and those who didn't got what was coming to them.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-05-11 22:59

  Quote from Bakuryu;1086595:

  That ban worked though, people ceased on being major dickheads, and those who didn't got what was coming to them.

  
  
  Infractions I felt would have gotten the point across quite fine actually.
  
  Sure it might not have worked on a couple people but I had a clean slate for bloody sakes. An infraction would have made it very clear that what I did was wrong and I would have stopped immediately. But nope, no infractions, just a 3 day ban.
• Claudia wrote on 2013-05-12 15:37

  Quote from Bakuryu;1086595:

  That ban worked though, people ceased on being major dickheads, and those who didn't got what was coming to them.

  
  
  Oh yeah, because I sure appreciated getting a 3 day ban without any warning whatsoever!
• Hanna wrote on 2013-05-12 17:40

  Quote from Cucurbita;1085975:

  Yeah I had a whopping, single, 10 point infraction, which sent me from a completely clean slate to an instant 3 day ban a few months ago.
  
  It was set to never expire.
  
  I was sitting on the edge since then.

  
  ive done so much worse than changing my name to Cucufag and none of my infractions have been permanent
  [S]not that i'm complaining or anything i think TA was just out to get your ass[/S]
  

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• Kenero wrote on 2013-05-22 17:37
  If I may make a suggestion:
  
  [spoiler][s]Any member who makes threats against cute cows should be given an infraction.[/s]
  
  

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  And a cowgirl image for foot lady.
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  Other than that, it makes things clearer. Thanks. Keep up the good work. =)
• Poptart wrote on 2013-05-26 07:25
  How do you even check to see if you have any infractions? I don't -think- I've ever got any, but I don't even see an option anywhere to find out.
• Halfslashed wrote on 2013-05-26 15:22

  Quote from Poptart;1095662:

  How do you even check to see if you have any infractions? I don't -think- I've ever got any, but I don't even see an option anywhere to find out.

  
  
  That means you haven't gotten any :P