[Complete]Battle Alchemist Guide

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Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-03 06:14

Quote from Tropa;1116126:
It's 0.80% of your Health, 500 HP = 40 base damage while 1k HP = 80 base damage.

500*0.008 = 4

0.8% < 1%

1% = 0.01

What you're doing there is 8%.

I'm confused as shit.
Tropa wrote on 2013-07-03 06:25

Quote from Gensokyou;1116145:
500*0.008 = 4

0.8% < 1%

1% = 0.01

What you're doing there is 8%.

I'm confused as shit.

I guess .8% is the best way to put it.

The other version is current HP/10 * .8
Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-03 06:33

Quote from Tropa;1116148:
I guess .8% is the best way to put it.

The other version is current HP/10 * .8

Multiplying something by 0.8 is the same as 80% of that number. Dividing the hp by 10 first makes it essentially the same as 8%, which is 0.08 as a ratio.

8% of your current hp = current hp/10 * .8 = Your current hp * 0.08
Bacontarts wrote on 2013-07-08 17:20

Considering that the wooden guard was placed in a beginner's set and the metal guard was place in the advanced, is there any stat difference between the two and if there is what are they?
Tropa wrote on 2013-07-08 17:29

Quote from Bacontarts;1118937:
Considering that the wooden guard was placed in a beginner's set and the metal guard was place in the advanced, is there any stat difference between the two and if there is what are they?

Metal one has three upgrade slots, the third upgrade can be artisan'd.
Yuuki Asuna wrote on 2013-07-08 23:50

Quote from Gensokyou;1116150:
Multiplying something by 0.8 is the same as 80% of that number. Dividing the hp by 10 first makes it essentially the same as 8%, which is 0.08 as a ratio.

8% of your current hp = current hp/10 * .8 = Your current hp * 0.08

I see it this way too so I'm pretty sure it's 8%...
Tropa wrote on 2013-07-26 02:31

[SIZE="4"]Character builds[/SIZE]

I'll be listing Gear, Weapons, Skills and Talents that'll greatly benefit Alchemists!

[SIZE="3"]Gear[/SIZE]

Cressida Set: Provides a +15% boost to Watercannon, Flameburst and Life drain.[SPOILER="Spoiler"] Cressida Wear
+1~4 Flame Burst Enhancement
+0~4 Water Cannon Enhancement
+0~4 Life Drain Enhancement
Cressida Gloves
+0~4 Flame Burst Enhancement
+0~4 Water Cannon Enhancement
+1~4 Life Drain Enhancement
Cress Boots
+0~4 Flame Burst Enhancement
+1~4 Water Cannon Enhancement
+0~4 Life Drain Enhancement [/SPOILER]
Flame rider: Provides a +15% boost to Flameburst.
[SPOILER="Spoiler"]Flamerider Suit
+6 Flame Burst Enhancement
Flamerider Boots
+4 Flame Burst Enhancement[/SPOILER]

[SIZE="3"]Weapons[/SIZE]
The Alchemist's weapons are Cylinders and Guard Cylinders.
There are different types of cylinders, some boost a certain Element while negativing others and Guard cylinders that act just like a Shield, when using both your able to use more skills and have accses to the Elemental meter.

Cylinder | Water | Fire | Wind | Earth
Normal Cylinder: 0% | 0% | 0% | 0%
Wooden Guard: 0% | 0% | 0% | 0%
Metal Guard: 0% | 0% | 0% | 0%
Water Cylinder: 15% | -5% | -5% | -5%
Tidalwave Cylinder: 30% | -10% | -10% | -10%
Abyss Cylinder: 36% | -12% | -12% | -12%
Fire Cylinder: -3%| 15% | -3% | -3%
Volcano Cylinder: -10% | 30% | -10% | -10%
Hellfire Cylinder: -12% | 36% | -12% |-12%
Wind Cylinder: -6%| -6%| 18% | -6%
Hurricane Cylinder: -12% | -12% | 36% | -12%
Clay Cylinder: -3%| -3%| -3% | 9%
Earthquake Cylinder: -6% | -6% | -6% | 18%
Tower Cylinder: 50% | 50% | 50% | 50% | 120% Life Drain damage
â€¢ Cylinders can be upgraded for Damage(Water/Fire), Barrier spike Health(Earth), Frozenblast duration and angle(Wind), Critical and Stamina reduction.
â€¢ Guard Cylinders can be upgraded for Critical, Stamina reduction and have Artisan.
â€¢ Tower Cylinders increase Alchemy range by 80%.

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[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/4/41/Water_Alchemy.png]
[SIZE="4"]Hydromaniac Build[/SIZE]
[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/4/41/Water_Alchemy.png]

This is a build specialized for Watercannon, high critical and raising Mana.

Important Skills

[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/c/ca/Water_Cannon.png]
[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/9/9b/Critical_Hit.png]
[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/4/41/Water_Alchemy.png]
[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/d/d6/Alchemy_Mastery.png]
[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/b/b7/Chain_Cylinder.png]
[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/c/c1/Heat_Buster.png]
[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/c/c1/Counterattack.png]
[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/6/66/Defense.png]
[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/2/26/Life_Drain.png]
[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/a/a6/Rain_Casting.png]
[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/1/15/Wind_Blast.png]
[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/2/23/Sand_Burst.png]

Talents for Additional Damage and Critical
[SPOILER="Spoiler"]
[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/1/15/Gold_Battle_Alchemy_Icon.png]
15 Water Alchemic damage

[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/0/00/Gold_Holy_Arts_Icon.png]
45 Mana

[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/9/9e/Gold_Magic_Icon.png]
15 Mana

[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/7/7a/Gold_Medicine_Icon.png]
45 Mana

[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/4/41/Gold_Mercantile_Icon.png]
15 Will and Luck

[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/4/4f/Gold_Martial_Arts_Icon.png]
75 Will[/SPOILER]

Skills for Additional Damage
[SPOILER="Skills for more damage"]Skill Name : Mana
Alchemy Mastery: 34
Mana Shield: 24
Mana Crystallization: 30
Metal Conversion: 10
Transmutation: 21
Shock: 44
Synthesis: 15
Magic Mastery: 165(144 Giant)
Meditation: 48
Thunder: 90
Natural Shield: 16
Fire Shield: 16
Lightning Shield: 16
Ice Shield: 16
Ice Spear: 25
Crash Shot: 16
Blaze: 33
Ice Mastery: 14
Lightning Mastery: 14
Fire Mastery: 14
Bolt Mastery: 21
Hail Storm: 23
Vivace:20
Study: Potion Lore: 10[/SPOILER]

[SIZE="3"]Beginner set[/SIZE]
Head: Stiff Ripple
Accs1: Ernest Ripple
Accs2: Ernest Ripple
Body: Ernest Ripple
Gloves: Ernest Ripple
Boots: Ernest Ripple
Water Cylinder: Stiff Ripple - [Full Damage upgrade]
Wooden Guard: Stiff Ripple - [Full Critical upgrade]
â€¢ This set alone gives 76 Water Damage and 56~62 Critical.
â€¢ This set paired with rank1 Watercannon, Critical hit, Water alchemy, Alchemy mastery and 300 Mana.
Single normal: 500~
Single Critical: 800~
Full Normal: 2.3k~
Full Critical: 5.5k~

[SIZE="3"]Advanced set[/SIZE]
Head: Stiff Ripple
Accs1: Transparent Tidal
Accs2: Transparent Tidal
Body: Restored Ripple
Gloves: Clear Ripple
Boots: Tilted Ripple
Tidalwave Cylinder: Synergy Wave - [Full Damage upgrade + R-type step 5]
Metal Guard: Synergy Wave - [Full Critical upgrade + 6% Critical artisan] (+17 Alchemy max from r1 Guard cyl)
â€¢ Lets say the Synergy and Wave enchants are both lowest rolls.
â€¢ This set alone at least gives 176 Water damage and 79% Critical
â€¢ This set paired with rank1 Watercannon, Critical hit, Water alchemy, Alchemy mastery, Guard Cylinder and 500 Mana.
Single Normal: 800~
Single Critical: 2.1k~
Full Normal: 4k~
Full Critical: 11.9k~

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[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/6/67/Fire_Alchemy.png]
[SIZE="3"]Pyromaniac Build[/SIZE]
[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/6/67/Fire_Alchemy.png]

This is a build specialized for Flameburst and focusing on raising Health.

Important Skills
Pending...

Talents and Skills for Additional Damage
[SPOILER="Spoiler"]
[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/1/15/Gold_Battle_Alchemy_Icon.png]
5 Fire Alchemic damage

[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/a/a1/Gold_Close_Combat_Icon.png]
25 Health

[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/d/da/Gold_Lance_Combat_Icon.png]
20 Health

[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/4/41/Gold_Mercantile_Icon.png]
30 Health, 15 Will and Luck

[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/b/b4/Gold_Music_Icon.png]
15 Health

[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/4/4f/Gold_Martial_Arts_Icon.png]
15 Health

[Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/5/57/Gold_Dual_Gun_Icon.png]
38 Health[/SPOILER]

[SIZE="3"]Advanced set[/SIZE]
Head: Flame
Accs1: Heated
Accs2: Heated
Body: Explosive
Gloves: Spark
Boots: Hot Cowboy
Volcano Cylinder: Synergy Magma - [Full Damage upgrade + R-type step 5]
Metalic Guard: Synergy Magma - [Full Critical upgrade](+17 Alchemy max from r1 Guard cyl)
â€¢ Lets say the Synergy and Magma are both lowest rolls.
â€¢ This set paired with rank1 Flameburst, Critical hit, Fire alchemy, Alchemy mastery, Guard Cylinder and 500 Health.
Single Normal: 300~
Single Critical: 800~
Full Normal: 1700~
Full Critical: 4700~
Xanu wrote on 2014-01-21 16:26

Hey Tropa, I like your recommended build for enchants and reforges, but for the stiff enchant on your hats would only apply to stiff tail caps that are found in rudnal. Maybe a good alternative would be vine or blunt, since they give roughly the same amount of crit; with more options in head gear.
mageisfun wrote on 2014-01-22 06:19

One thing I would recommend adding to the guide would be videos showing how powerful end-game alchemy is, and how well it works with other skillsets. Because right now, most people assume it's weak as hell because of the current alchemists they see on a daily basis. (MAGICARCHERYMEELEGUNSEVERYTHINGBUTALCHEMYOMGexceptmebbefighter)

Other then that. Great guide.
Tropa wrote on 2014-01-22 11:18

Not even finished yet.
Tropa wrote on 2014-01-22 19:43

Since Vate is around the corner, I decided to get off my procrastinating ass and finish this guide!

Have any questions or did I miss anything? tell me please!
epicmiro wrote on 2014-01-22 21:13

I suggest adding these two vids to the vid list, one with great endgame flame burst, other using nothing else then hydra and rain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atXnSBnxYdo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIvgs2tgCm4

also maybe add Fire Alchemy Efficiency to the reforges for shoes.
and Battlefield to the skill list (It buffs flame dmg too)
And isnt halloween title +10 alch damage?
TJP121 wrote on 2014-01-22 22:03

Quote from epicmiro;1190515:

And isnt halloween title +10 alch damage?

yes it is, Gods feather is also +10 alch even though that one probably is more uncommon then the halloween title if people horded it. The difference between the two is the magic def/prot from halloween (and also M. Atk), but crystal success from God's feather.
Username wrote on 2014-01-22 22:44

So i tested the battlefield overature with Flame alchemy. I was seeming to hit higher with it on, it was noticeable. Maybe i did not get the memo on this, but if someone else could confirm this.

If it does, i think it does max damage from a certian point in the formula, and not calculating it all.
Tropa wrote on 2014-01-22 23:26

Quote from epicmiro;1190515:
I suggest adding these two vids to the vid list, one with great endgame flame burst, other using nothing else then hydra and rain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atXnSBnxYdo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIvgs2tgCm4

Added

also maybe add Fire Alchemy Efficiency to the reforges for shoes.

It only adds into he additional damage.

And isnt halloween title +10 alch damage?

Changed.

And yes, Battlefield does add into Flameburst and WC damage.

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