[Mabinogi] - Foreign Mabinogi Small Questions Thread

• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-08-03 04:46

  Quote from Iyasenu;1130931:

  Oh.
  How do you train it?
  
  Just by... ingredients/leather happening to drop?

  
  
  Yes.
  
  
  http://mabination.com/threads/73346-Mabinogi-KR-Dream-Update-Items-Monsters-Skills-and-more?p=1127675&viewfull=1#post1127675
• dcsax wrote on 2013-08-03 04:53
  I was really hoping the new skills would be out before I start college.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2013-08-03 06:22
  So does Find Material just magically add ingredients and leather to an enemies pool of possible dropped items or something?
• drezzt wrote on 2013-08-03 06:35
  So if I get a slow gun, say a taunes, I should enchant it with speed enchants? And damage on dealla?
  What kind of enchanting should I be aiming for on the guns for a balanced amount of damage between AOE and single-target skills?
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-08-03 06:38

  Quote from drezzt;1131003:

  So if I get a slow gun, say a taunes, I should enchant it with speed enchants? And damage on dealla?
  What kind of enchanting should I be aiming for on the guns for a balanced amount of damage between AOE and single-target skills?

  
  
  It's probably best to have attack speed on as a set effect from other pieces of equipment. That stops the font lag when switching to your guns and means you're free to just go for max damage.
• drezzt wrote on 2013-08-03 06:41

  Quote from Gensokyou;1131006:

  It's probably best to have attack speed on as a set effect from other pieces of equipment. That stops the font lag when switching to your guns and means you're free to just go for max damage.

  
  
  hnnnnnggg... i've got a +1 attack speed on my viscount... but I dont wanna get a CD armor or the new white dragon light armor for attack speed...
  Is getting attack speed on anything especially important for shooter? I'd rather go without the trouble of getting attack speed through armor pieces...especially when the armors have relatively low durability.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-08-03 06:51

  Quote from drezzt;1131008:

  hnnnnnggg... i've got a +1 attack speed on my viscount... but I dont wanna get a CD armor or the new white dragon light armor for attack speed...
  Is getting attack speed on anything especially important for shooter? I'd rather go without the trouble of getting attack speed through armor pieces...especially when the armors have relatively low durability.

  
  
  You'd need +2 from your viscount to enchant automatic and get the set effect anyway.
  
  The only thing that attack speed really helps with is Frenzy and normal attack comboing. Since gun attacks have no stun anyway, and only crits do, it's more of an advantage then a disadvantage compared to other skillsets, such as melee since the increased speed means reduced stun which means you get punched in the face.
  
  Frenzy is basically like gun final hit. 3 minute cooldown and you shoot really fast a bunch of times and do a bunch of damage, except unlike final hit it's useful since all attacks are crits.. Normal attacks are, well, normal attacks.
  
  So the questions i'd be asking myself in your shoes are:
  
  -How much do I plan on using gunner? As a main skillset all the time, or as a support skillset?
  -What do I plan to be doing with guns? Burst AoE and utility or more of an all-around class?
  -Is the extra speed going to be worth the cost or the lack of damage considering what you're going to be using it for?
• drezzt wrote on 2013-08-03 06:58

  Quote from Gensokyou;1131015:

  You'd need +2 from your viscount to enchant automatic and get the set effect anyway.
  
  The only thing that attack speed really helps with is Frenzy and normal attack comboing. Since gun attacks have no stun anyway, and only crits do, it's more of an advantage then a disadvantage compared to other skillsets, such as melee since the increased speed means reduced stun which means you get punched in the face.
  
  Frenzy is basically like gun final hit. 3 minute cooldown and you shoot really fast a bunch of times and do a bunch of damage, except unlike final hit it's useful since all attacks are crits.. Normal attacks are, well, normal attacks.
  
  So the questions i'd be asking myself in your shoes are:
  
  -How much do I plan on using gunner? As a main skillset all the time, or as a support skillset?
  -What do I plan to be doing with guns? Burst AoE and utility or more of an all-around class?
  -Is the extra speed going to be worth the cost or the lack of damage considering what you're going to be using it for?

  
  
  -I'm gonna be using gunner pretty much as a main skill set until: my ego gets to a high enough level where I'll will be using it all the time, and when guard cylinders come out. It'll basically replace my fighter in my combat slots.
  -I plan on using guns for mostly burst AOE, but I would also like to use crossbuster often.
  -So from what I've thought about, seems like I'll be wanting a fast gun enchanted for damage?
• Psy wrote on 2013-08-03 09:06
  Gun's main damaging skill in my opinion, Shooting Rush, has a long enough cooldown to not be spammed but too short to be a burst damage skill. You COULD use it as a burst AoE I guess but that's not really effective when switching back and forth between knuckles unless the AoE rule is only 1 monster at a time.
  
  And as Gensokyou pointed out, it would be better to put attack speed on items other than the gun if you're going to be switching between weapon sets often mid-battle. But otherwise, you're fine using Automatic or Semi-Automatic enchant for attack speed on the gun (you'll still need some attack speed from other sources but less).
• Milk wrote on 2013-08-03 12:48
  What do the reforges for gunner skills look like? I haven't seen much mention of them.
• newaccountad wrote on 2013-08-03 13:26
  So when gun skills come out this wed-fri how do I actually get guns?
• Kenero wrote on 2013-08-03 13:28

  Quote from Milk;1131074:

  What do the reforges for gunner skills look like? I haven't seen much mention of them.

  
  
  This has been answered many times already. And I am sure I answered the same question for you not too long ago.
  
  A bit of searching can pull this up:
  
  

  Quote from Ciaö;1130904:

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  I know some people can get lazy and the big search in Nation is sort of scary, but once you get used to it, it isn't bad at all. ^^
  
  For those wondering:
  
  Get speed attack+.
  
  Automatic is from Emerald Shriekers in floor 2 and floor 3 of Hewuyn Mines. They are immune to range due to their lv.3 natural shield so you can't use range skills on them. Attack Speed+ is especially important if you plan to get serious with gunner.
  
  Also, for those curious, let's say you have 1 attack speed on viscount but you don't want to "re-roll", just get some accessories and roll until you get Attack Speed Lv.1 enhancement which is easily obtainable at rank 3 reforge. It will supplement the lack of that extra 1 attack speed on viscount.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-08-03 13:35

  Quote from Kenero;1131081:

  This has been answered many times already. And I am sure I answered the same question for you not too long ago.
  
  A bit of searching can pull this up:
  
  
  
  I know some people can get lazy and the big search in Nation is sort of scary, but once you get used to it isn't bad.
  
  For those wondering:
  
  Get speed attack+.
  
  Automatic is from Emerald Shriekers in floor 2 and floor 3 of Hewuyn Mines. They are immune to range due to their lv.3 natural shield. Especially if you plan to get serious with gunner.
  
  Also, for those curious, let's say you have 1 attack speed on viscount but you don't want to "re-roll", just get some accessories and roll until you get Attack Speed Lv.1 enhancement which is easily obtainable at rank 3 reforge. It will supplement the lack of that extra 1 attack speed on viscount.

  
  
  Why is automatic better then crocodile? Discounting the rather big downside of the font from switching. Don't say use mods either, it's against the rules no matter what people say until nexon says it's okay. ;u
  
  If you're maining gunner? Sure, I might see why. But as a secondary? You can still be serious about guns as a secondary. Especially with puppets.
  
  33 max is a lot to miss out on.
• newaccountad wrote on 2013-08-03 14:11
  So attack speed is more important on guns then max damage? Even if you mainly use shooting rush and bullet storm?
• Milk wrote on 2013-08-03 14:34

  Quote from Kenero;1131081:

  This has been answered many times already. And I am sure I answered the same question for you not too long ago.
  
  A bit of searching can pull this up:
  
  
  
  I know some people can get lazy and the big search in Nation is sort of scary, but once you get used to it, it isn't bad at all. ^^
  
  For those wondering:
  
  Get speed attack+.
  
  Automatic is from Emerald Shriekers in floor 2 and floor 3 of Hewuyn Mines. They are immune to range due to their lv.3 natural shield so you can't use range skills on them. Attack Speed+ is especially important if you plan to get serious with gunner.
  
  Also, for those curious, let's say you have 1 attack speed on viscount but you don't want to "re-roll", just get some accessories and roll until you get Attack Speed Lv.1 enhancement which is easily obtainable at rank 3 reforge. It will supplement the lack of that extra 1 attack speed on viscount.

  
  
  Oh wow it was basically like a page back lol x-x Sorry but ty for going through the trouble of answering my question. I promise to look abit before I ask another question :P. You answered something else I don't think ive asked about reforges yet. But either way you are like a fountain of unreleased information. Ty again.