[Mabinogi] - Foreign Mabinogi Small Questions Thread

• Exkalamity wrote on 2013-06-18 03:13

  Quote from Snowguy;1107577:

  Since prot was revamped, from a damage perspective are lances still super strong? Would I choose a 9 piercing elemental lance over say elemental knuckles?

  
  
  Someone closer to the KR test team should verify this, but lance sorta got buffed from the new protection formula. Level 8 piercing now reduces 40% protection, and most mobs had their protection numbers roughly retained. For mobs with 40~60 protection new formula, lances now are king, offering huge damage boosts due to the buff in piercing. However, with mobs that have 70+ protection lances begin to receive diminishing returns, rather than exponential returns under the old formula. Like the difference between 40 prot and 0 prot on a monster is much larger than the difference between 150 and 110 prot under the new formula.
• Meli wrote on 2013-06-18 12:34
  do you still need a KSSN to get into the korean test server, because I thought this was no longer needed to create an account, can someone explained it to me then.
• Kenero wrote on 2013-06-18 12:39

  Quote from Meli;1108375:

  do you still need a KSSN to get into the korean test server, because I thought this was no longer needed to create an account, can someone explained it to me then.

  
  
  It isn't, but you need to verify through other things... like a korean phone number, etc.
  
  They don't require KSSN, but they force you to validate your existence through other means, such as calling your phone, asking for your address, etc.
  
  Which falls into basically what KSSN did without KSSN.
  
  They are doing the same thing with just different information. They're quite clever.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-06-18 12:42

  Quote from Kenero;1108377:

  It isn't, but you need to verify through other things... like a korean phone number, etc.
  
  They don't require KSSN, but they force you to validate your existence through other means, such as calling your phone, asking for your address, etc.
  
  Which falls into basically what KSSN did without KSSN.
  
  They are doing the same thing with just different information. They're quite clever.

  
  
  This is amazing xDDDD
  
  With guns. How important is clip size and range? Should either of those have any priority over damage?
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-06-18 12:42

  Quote from Kenero;1108377:

  It isn't, but you need to verify through other things... like a korean phone number, etc.
  
  They don't require KSSN, but they force you to validate your existence through other means, such as calling your phone, asking for your address, etc.
  
  Which falls into basically what KSSN did without KSSN.
  
  They are doing the same thing with just different information. They're quite clever.

  
  
  This is amazing xDDDD
  
  With guns. How important is clip size and range? Should either of those have any priority over damage?
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-06-18 12:50

  Quote from Gensokyou;1108379:

  This is amazing xDDDD
  
  With guns. How important is clip size and range? Should either of those have any priority over damage?

  
  
  If you want to combo better, you should go with Della. Clip size is very important. It wouldn't be bad to have both the MK Taunes II and the Della SE. Della focuses on clip size while the Taunes focuses on power.
  
  You could use Della for regular mobs and then Taunes for boss.
• Kenero wrote on 2013-06-18 12:54

  Quote from Gensokyou;1108379:

  This is amazing xDDDD
  
  With guns. How important is clip size and range? Should either of those have any priority over damage?

  
  
  Early on Taunes or even Black Star will be useful.
  
  But as you get stronger, Clip Size becomes extremely important to pull out long combos. Adding that Dealla SE is also the "dagger version of Final Hit" in terms of Frenzy, makes it that much appealing.
  
  Though Taunes is useful if you want to take down those big baddies better. It's also better to use fighting a single big monster outside frenzy, such as a boss.
  
  One thing to note is that Zeder II and Meriel PE are inbetween the two in terms of power, clip size, and of course stun rates but I personally would only use them as starting gun (since Zeder II is cheap, basically free, and you probably will get it as your first gun if there isn't any gun events).
  
  However, unless there's a gacha or you get them luckily out of drama boxes, both Taunes and Dealla SE will be hard to get until someone ranks up Engineering.
  
  Especially since gun upgrades eat durability, you may not be happy with a base grade one.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-06-18 13:16

  Quote from Kenero;1108382:

  Early on Taunes or even Black Star will be useful.
  
  But as you get stronger, Clip Size becomes extremely important to pull out long combos. Adding that Dealla SE is also the "dagger version of Final Hit" in terms of Frenzy, makes it that much appealing.
  
  Though Taunes is useful if you want to take down those big baddies better. It's also better to use fighting a single big monster outside frenzy, such as a boss.
  
  One thing to note is that Zeder II and Meriel PE are inbetween the two in terms of power, clip size, and of course stun rates but I personally would only use them as starting gun (since Zeder II is cheap, basically free, and you probably will get it as your first gun if there isn't any gun events).
  
  However, unless there's a gacha or you get them luckily out of drama boxes, both Taunes and Dealla SE will be hard to get until someone ranks up Engineering.
  
  Especially since gun upgrades eat durability, you may not be happy with a base grade one.

  
  
  This is if you are maining gunner, or does this advice also apply if you are using it as a secondary class?
  
  I'm interested in both because sometimes i'll gun and bard while sometimes i'll puppet and gun.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-06-18 13:25

  Quote from Gensokyou;1108385:

  This is if you are maining gunner, or does this advice also apply if you are using it as a secondary class?
  
  I'm interested in both because sometimes i'll gun and bard while sometimes i'll puppet and gun.

  
  
  I think this advice holds true no matter how you use guns. Weither you are maining it or using it as secondary, the clip size will help you combo a lot better without having to constantly reload every other second.
• Kenero wrote on 2013-06-18 15:53

  Quote from Gensokyou;1108385:

  This is if you are maining gunner, or does this advice also apply if you are using it as a secondary class?
  
  I'm interested in both because sometimes i'll gun and bard while sometimes i'll puppet and gun.

  
  
  This is in general. Though someone who plans to use guns for secondary may prefer Taunes more.
  
  Puppet + Guns has a good AOE synergy.
  
  Because the way the cooldown is set for both skillsets, it's basically non stop AOE.
  
  Wave 1 - > Puppet Clear
  Wave 2 - > Gun Clear
  Wave 3 - > Puppet Clear
  
  etc.
• vayth wrote on 2013-06-19 18:53
  About cast speed revamp (sorry if I miss it), is it a change in the whole formula, or just in cast speed reforge?
  I read someone post somewhere that it's just about stacking cspd from reforge and doesn't change any other cspd sourse (int, upgrade staff, etc). which if that's true, then nothing will change for me, as I don't use reforge (well, maybe the one from general shop NPC, but I still don't know the difference between NPC and NX reforge after all)
• Kenero wrote on 2013-06-19 19:20

  Quote from vayth;1109197:

  About cast speed revamp (sorry if I miss it), is it a change in the whole formula, or just in cast speed reforge?
  I read someone post somewhere that it's just about stacking cspd from reforge and doesn't change any other cspd sourse (int, upgrade staff, etc). which if that's true, then nothing will change for me, as I don't use reforge (well, maybe the one from general shop NPC, but I still don't know the difference between NPC and NX reforge after all)

  
  
  All speed enhancement stacks now.
• Dracius wrote on 2013-06-19 21:14
  Okay, so the Sulien Magic Knuckles come from gacha right?
  There's no other way to obtain them?
  
  I just remember something about KR giving it to everybody cause of a screw-up, which probably won't happen in NA.
• Second wrote on 2013-06-19 22:10
  Did KR fix the jam session to allow 6+ people?
• Nalgor wrote on 2013-06-20 15:39
  Oh another alchemy question. More specifically reforges
  With the revamp, is there new alchemy reforges (especially chain cylinder)? And which piece of equipment flame burst duration reforge goes on?