[Mabinogi] - Foreign Mabinogi Small Questions Thread

• Psy wrote on 2013-09-04 07:13

  Quote from Aubog007;1143982:

  Well i meant as "general" because i know defense is massively easier to get, and with the extra benefits from protection...
  
  
  Also the upgrades for the armors.

  
  Although defense and magic defense are both more abundant after the update, that doesn't effect Injury, which I thought the topic was. And armor upgrades aren't changed I believe.
• Zekkii wrote on 2013-09-04 07:45
  Could someone clarify any and all differences, if any, between blaze from now to any future updates? All I really know is that it will do more damage and staves can use it. So more specifically:
  
  1) Does anyone know the formula?
  2) What modifier do staves get (such as 50% for wands and 120% for combat wands)?
  3) Does it still require knockdown for full damage?
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-09-04 08:12

  Quote from Psy;1144037:

  Although defense and magic defense are both more abundant after the update, that doesn't effect Injury, which I thought the topic was. And armor upgrades aren't changed I believe.

  
  
  The upgrades for the new dragon armor.
  
  Also the more def you have, the less damage, and by extension, wound
• Kenero wrote on 2013-09-04 13:07

  Quote from Aubog007;1144051:

  The upgrades for the new dragon armor.
  
  Also the more def you have, the less damage, and by extension, wound

  
  
  Aubog is right.
  
  And to clarify someone's previous post.
  
  It is a nerf in a sense if you're not a mage, but if you're a mage, mana shield is only slightly better than what it is now for everyone.
  
  However the thing about what makes mana shield different is that the new armors, shield mastery, and heavy armors make defense much more viable (only if you're not using any dex related skills).
  
  Also more prot means less chance of an enemy munching you with critical hits and you won't need to constantly feed yourself mana pots to upkeep your mana shield.
  
  However on the flip side, mana shield doesn't take any wounds, which may or may not be a problem vs. some enemies (and no, not all end game monsters have high wound rate), and if you run out of mana, you won't "die", unlike the HP variant.
  
  It boils down to what one will personally prefer.
  
  And also will affects Magic Defense, not INT, which means martial artists will be able to resist magic damage better than a mage with no will. When you use mana shield, the magic defense and prot is no longer factored in. When you turn on mana shield, it will be as if you have 0 def, 0 magic def, 0 prot, and 0 magic prot.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-09-04 13:12

  Quote from Zekkii;1144042:

  Could someone clarify any and all differences, if any, between blaze from now to any future updates? All I really know is that it will do more damage and staves can use it. So more specifically:
  
  1) Does anyone know the formula?
  2) What modifier do staves get (such as 50% for wands and 120% for combat wands)?
  3) Does it still require knockdown for full damage?

  
  
  1) Does anyone know the formula?
  
  Unfournately, no. I tried to look it up but it didn't seem to add up and there was a lot of missing variables
  
  2) What modifier do staves get (such as 50% for wands and 120% for combat wands)?
  
  The modifier the staves get is the same as non combat wands. So if you want higher blaze damage go with a savage wand.
  
  3) Does it still require knockdown for full damage?
  
  Yes, that mechanic has not changed any.
  
  The main problem with magic is that a lot of it is guess work and estimation as there is no straight forward calculation for magic damage and it's still shrouded in unnecessary complications. Granted, the new formula is drastically more simple than the current formula.
  
  The main problem with Blaze still exists. It requires predicting where the mobs will land and not lag. One slight miscalculation or lag will destroy it's effectiveness. If you get it right, the pay off is huge.
  
  Frankly, I wouldn't gamble on blaze and stick to more sure fire ways of dealing damage unless you are a master of correctly timing and placing your blazes.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2013-09-04 18:10
  Even if Blaze deals awesome damage post-Zero, it's still Blaze. Situational at best, unreliable and downright frustrating at worst.
  
  Also, irrelevant but interesting:
  
  http://www.mabinogi.pe.kr/bbs/data/report/mabinogi_2013_04_05_005.jpg
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-09-04 18:19

  Quote from Kaeporo;1144178:

  Even if Blaze deals awesome damage post-Zero, it's still Blaze. Situational at best, unreliable and downright frustrating at worst.
  
  Also, irrelevant but interesting:
  
  http://www.mabinogi.pe.kr/bbs/data/report/mabinogi_2013_04_05_005.jpg

  
  
  Dis forbidden fruit.
  
  Also blaze is blaze. Good when it's good, Awful when it's awful.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2013-09-04 18:20

  Quote from Aubog007;1144183:

  Dis forbidden fruit.

  
  
  Meh. Scythes receive special upgrades. Some may not have known, others may not have seen proof.
  
  Copy link. Paste link.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-09-04 18:21

  Quote from Kaeporo;1144184:

  Meh. Scythes receive special upgrades. Some may not have known, others may not have seen proof.
  
  Copy link. Paste link.

  
  
  
  Odd. (link thing)
  
  Also i do remember something about special upgraded scythes...
  
  But why.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2013-09-04 18:22
  I don't know. I'm going back through older future content to find info on the repair cost changes.
  
  Dragon Weapon Upgrades
  
  Yeah. We're definitely getting the heavy armor repair cost reduction but I don't think demonic weapon repairs are going to change.
• ewire123 wrote on 2013-09-04 18:49
  Blaze is good for someone who have less lag, it like gunner
• Kaeporo wrote on 2013-09-04 19:00

  Quote from ewire123;1144194:

  Blaze is good for someone who have less lag, it like gunner

  
  
  It's more situational than gunslinger skills, being almost completely reliant on Ice Spear to see any practical use while simultaneously slowing party play to a crew if you screw it up.
  
  It relies heavily on timing and position factors and both are influenced by latency to a large degree.
  
  I'm making a savage ice wand right now because it will pay off to utilize the skill where it actually speeds up progress.
• Psy wrote on 2013-09-05 07:44
  A: Yay, please add more use to scythes!. . .
  B: Wait, that's a one hander special upgrade. . .
• Invisible wrote on 2013-09-08 18:40
  Do hero talents containing a life talent get life talent perks?
• Zure wrote on 2013-09-11 17:05
  In the future will they ever let us sign magic crafting and engineering gear?