Fiona general guide.

• Shirayuki wrote on 2010-10-25 21:46

  Quote from notmuchstuff;193876:

  Is there anyway to tell if an attack is a smash or not simply by the animation? Without trying to guard it basically.

  
  
  If you HS and it throws you back, its a smash. If you stay in the same place, it was a normal attack.
• Invertex wrote on 2010-10-25 21:56
  You can't tell based off observation, I tend to go with what Shira said and assume everything is a smash until I don't get knocked back.
  Though you tend to start noticing general trends, like how (nearly) all Vampire sword moves are normal attacks.
• Inverse wrote on 2010-10-26 00:08
  Hammer Smash #2, and #4 (Sigma) can Break-Off if aimed correctly. Which can be tricky since they are unwieldy. Of course, both of these attacks have nice stun chance as well. It's key to note I have noticed more breakage by "grazing" a target (hitting it at its edge) with the hammer, than headon. Could have to do with how the attack hit box works.
  
  Try hitting the duck on the boat with the hammer on the ground to see what I mean. You want the splash damage, not the hit~ for break-offs. I need to experiment more to be sure.
  
  This is of course risky, and not recommended when Sprint+Smash can work as well in many situations, but it's good to know.
• VitaSoy wrote on 2010-10-26 03:30
  Great guide.
  
  I've heard that smash mastery affects normal hits when using a hammer, confirmation?
  
  When creating a few Fiona characters for testing, I've noticed that height has minimal affects on speed, while noticing a semi-significant drop in how many targets I hit with amaranth kick and ivy sweep. Been combing through some Korean Fiona guides, but have not come up with anything conclusive.
• heretic304 wrote on 2010-10-26 05:00

  Quote from VitaSoy;194446:

  Great guide.
  
  I've heard that smash mastery affects normal hits when using a hammer, confirmation?
  
  When creating a few Fiona characters for testing, I've noticed that height has minimal affects on speed, while noticing a semi-significant drop in how many targets I hit with amaranth kick and ivy sweep. Been combing through some Korean Fiona guides, but have not come up with anything conclusive.

  
  
  I'm pretty sure hammer's normal attacks are only affected by combat mastery and critical hit. Smash mastery only affects the smashes themselves. And the height difference doesn't actually affect attack speed itself. It affects the after-delays of the smash animations. Taller characters have a longer after-delay and a longer reach while shorter ones have a shorter delay but shorter reach.
  
  For Sword Fiona, there is no bearing on her attack speed since heavy stander can be activated at the same moment whether she's short or tall. On hammer, however, it might be more noticeable since the after-delay of their smash is extremely short, giving hammer users less need to Heavy Cancel. As a result a hammer Fiona will probably feel the extra bit of delay on her attacks. But it shouldn't be significant enough for a taller Fiona to need to heavy cancel as a hammer user.
• VitaSoy wrote on 2010-10-26 05:18
  Thanks for the reply. Completely forgot about the animation canceling. I figured there would be a general consensus like having shorter scythe Evie's to get chains off in time.
  
  While stumbling around Korean fan sites, I came across this little gem. It's a list of Fiona boss solos. So I guess my stumbling is more of a frolic now. The videos are listed by numbers followed by a short description; google chrome to translate if necessary.
  
  http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2032&query=view&p=1&my=&category=&sort=PID&orderby=&where=&name=&subject=&content=&keyword=&sterm=&iskin=&l=27867
  
  P.S. I always thought trolling was more of a western thing. some of these korean forums get pretty hilarious.
• baozicha wrote on 2010-10-27 05:03

  Quote from ;:

  
  Really good guide! Thanks a lot!:XD:
• Bakuryu wrote on 2010-11-01 15:32

  Quote from update:

  
  11/01/2010
  -Fixed erroneous translations.
  -Added all skills available to Fiona in Mabinogi Heroes (Korean "Vindictus")
  +Health Potion Mastery
  +Large Shield Mastery
  +Shield Rush
  

  
  
  All skills, now I was thinking of adding rank effects to the skill tables, but enough for now.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2010-11-01 15:40
  No mention of hammer skills makes this hammer fiona very ronery.
• Bakuryu wrote on 2010-11-01 15:42
  Ooh hammer skills right right. o__o I ehem forgot about those yes yes.
  I'll see about adding them in a couple of years.
• Bakuryu wrote on 2010-11-01 16:19
  Ooh hammer skills right right. o__o I ehem forgot about those yes yes.
  I'll see about adding them in a couple of years.
  
  Edit: Alright, added what info I can about hammer skills.
• risend wrote on 2010-11-02 01:47
  In the Korean version, hammers only go up to A skill? And there is no skill book for #2 smash skill?
• Bakuryu wrote on 2010-11-02 01:50
  Hammer Skills are capped at A in Mabinogi Heroes atm.
  Both skill books are sold by Ceara, they cost 12k ea.
• AsteriskCGy wrote on 2010-11-02 05:41
  Hum, are those PG extra attacks doable after a counterattack or in place of.
• Andy-Buddy wrote on 2010-11-02 05:43

  Quote from AsteriskCGy;201130:

  Hum, are those PG extra attacks doable after a counterattack or in place of.

  
  
  In place of.