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Syr wrote on 2013-06-22 18:52
Quote from Aubog007;1110674:
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I lol'd at the name.
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Piconoe wrote on 2013-06-22 18:52
Remember when we first initially heard about Elemental Wave and thought it was garbo? Very pleased with how things have changed.
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ewire123 wrote on 2013-06-22 18:54
Quote from Piconoe;1110683:
Remember when we first initially heard about Elemental Wave and thought it was garbo? Very pleased with how things have changed.
Lol I didn't expect it to charge that quick, the guy practically fully charge it in a few waves
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Piconoe wrote on 2013-06-22 18:56
Quote from ewire123;1110687:
Lol I didn't expect it to charge that quick, the guy practically fully charge it in a few waves
He fully charged it MULTIPLE TIMES in a few waves. Pretty much once a wave. Looks like they removed the cooldown, too. Or was there never one in the first place?
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Aubog007 wrote on 2013-06-22 18:56
Quote from Tropa;1110679:
Well, I know how you feel, and I know how things like puppets, range or even things like magic will still clear rooms faster then alchemy.
But, it still stands true for me, I'll still use and perfect Alchemy, because I love how it plays and how it works.
You like using puppets? then great! I support that. I like using them too, and I know alot of people who hate how they work/ect.
To me, Alchemy is like one of the most unique skillsets in the game, with many utility skills for many situations.
Also, I would hate to be in a party with people who are like "Hurdur why are you using alchemy? gtfo", I rather solo the mission then put up with that.
I love alchemy, I would never tell a party member what to do or how to play, because i do speed runs solo, so i have no need to tell people what to do! /hur.
Quote from ewire123;1110677:
When did I say that? Don't put word in my mouth. Other thread was about firebolt vs magnum, I said nothing about fun. Spamming firebolt is simply boring as well.
I was gathering at a conjecture based on your previous thread that you wanted to try so hard to prove elven magnum was becoming obsolete, if i drew an improper conjecture, ill admit my mistake.
Quote from SKochiya;1110680:
WHY IS THIS NOT BLESSED YET?! :shoe:
Not 15 dura.
Quote from Piconoe;1110689:
He fully charged it MULTIPLE TIMES in a few waves. Pretty much once a wave. Looks like they removed the cooldown, too. Or was there never one in the first place?
cooldown is for golden time.
Quote from Syr;1110682:
I lol'd at the name.
IKR? i was like. PERFECT.
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Tropa wrote on 2013-06-22 18:59
Quote from Aubog007;1110690:
I love alchemy, I would never tell a party member what to do or how to play, because i do speed runs solo, so i have no need to tell people what to do! /hur.
Once in awhile, I have an alchemist in my party, sure, s/he may be "slow" or killing everything in a moderate pace but I'm just happy they play the way they want to, like you and me.
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Piconoe wrote on 2013-06-22 19:00
Quote from Aubog007;1110690:
cooldown is for golden time.
I know it's on Golden Time, but I swear I saw a cooldown on BOTH Golden Time and Elemental Wave when it was very first teased. Either way, glad it's not.
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Quote from Tropa;1110691:
Once in awhile, I have an alchemist in my party, sure, s/he may be "slow" or killing everything in a moderate pace but I'm just happy they play the way they want to, like you and me.
Here's my take on speed play in parties:
If they are going slow, it won't slow the progress down anymore than it would if they were never there in the first place. So why should you care?
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ewire123 wrote on 2013-06-22 19:03
Quote from Piconoe;1110692:
Here's my take on speed play in parties:
If they are going slow, it won't slow the progress down anymore than it would if they were never there in the first place. So why should you care?
Inb4 "but they take half of my exp! QQ "
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Aubog007 wrote on 2013-06-22 19:10
Quote from ewire123;1110695:
Inb4 "but they take half of my exp! QQ "
When it comes to missions that either you split up and solo rooms or tail defensive, i do actually set the exp rule to all to finish, not to let exp be wasted because people are not "there"
If they come into exp sharing range, i switch back.
I never ever have switched an EXP rule to all to finish when others are in there.
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Slayerj wrote on 2013-06-22 19:35
Aubog, you and Radi could have worded that a LOT better to avoid all of this. By just simply stating it's slower compared to other things thus making it less effective...you left your selves open for this. Saying instead that it still seems slower than other sets but could be fun for someone to use would have prevented all this I think.
I agree it won't be the fastest thing in the world and it might take people longer to solo a room with that in party play but it still looks fun to use and would be something I'd want to see in my party.
Also reforges bring more DPS because they target the hard core players more than the casuals to get the most money. There's not much you can throw at a casual player reforge wise that they'll go ape shit over to get to min/max everything ever. [S]onlyifexpforafkindumbyreforge[/S] XD
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radionoise wrote on 2013-06-22 19:42
I meant what I said. It genuinely looks like a lot of effort, even with alchemy itself you could do the same thing with less effort.
People just arbitrarily decided that "looks like a lot of effort" = "alchemy sucks lololol spam win button pls, NO FUN ALLOWED".
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SKochiya wrote on 2013-06-22 19:53
Actually, to me it looks fun, but not very efficient.
And people won't want me in their parties if I choose fun over efficiency. :T_T:
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Slayerj wrote on 2013-06-22 20:03
Quote from radionoise;1110707:
I meant what I said. It genuinely looks like a lot of effort, even with alchemy itself you could do the same thing with less effort.
People just arbitrarily decided that "looks like a lot of effort" = "alchemy sucks lololol spam win button pls, NO FUN ALLOWED".
Well from the nations track record...that's generally what any post that says something is a lot more effort means.
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newpants wrote on 2013-06-22 21:15
sounds like the main issue is more execution&time needed for alchemy vs other skillsets. at least alch is much better now at aoe/multi aggro, though it isn't at the level of more spammable aoes.
main thing i got from this is that frozen blast looks pretty useful for those that don't ohko.
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Gensokyou wrote on 2013-06-22 21:34
Quote from Aubog007;1110690:
I love alchemy, I would never tell a party member what to do or how to play, because i do speed runs solo, so i have no need to tell people what to do! /hur.
I was gathering at a conjecture based on your previous thread that you wanted to try so hard to prove elven magnum was becoming obsolete, if i drew an improper conjecture, ill admit my mistake.
Not 15 dura.
cooldown is for golden time.
IKR? i was like. PERFECT.
It's posts like this that make me want to be a better poster. +rep
Quote from SKochiya;1110711:
Actually, to me it looks fun, but not very efficient.
And people won't want me in their parties if I choose fun over efficiency. :T_T:
Lies and you know it. If people don't leech and they don't cockblock other party members over and over and over, I run with them. That's why I like, Do MA with level 500 people. xD