Fixing Mabinogi Lag (The Right Way)

• Snowie Stormflower wrote on 2013-07-31 13:42

  Quote from Gensokyou;1129897:

  No, I was merely going out on a limb and trying to be humerus.
  
  Security is my real major concern. And I don't think you should be saying that you don't use an antivirus as evidence :u

  
  
  My computer has been in fine shape for those 4 years.
  You don't need an anti-virus if you know what you're doing.
  It's secure enough.
• Rydian wrote on 2013-07-31 14:16

  Quote from Gensokyou;1129805:

  Nothing wrong with that D<<<<< XD
  
  Here's a speedtest I did earlier:
  
  

  [Image: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2871260404.png]

  
  
  I forgot my computer i'm using currently wasn't denagled, so I did that and did some line fixes and got a new modem courtesy of my ISP, and it's improved...ever so slightly. On average. Sometimes. xD
  
  I'm still kinda suspect about that VPN thing though.

  1 - That's an absolutely terrible result. That's worse than a cheap DSL package. Is that your connection in general, when testing a local server as a normal speed test? Something's not right there, make sure all the other computers and things with internet access are shut down on that connection.
  
  2 - This isn't "Mobile broadband" or your cell phone's connection, is it? If so, that would explain a lot, and you're going to want an actual landline connection, that'll solve most of your issues (way less ping, higher upstream and downstream).
  
  

  Quote from Snowie Stormflower;1129899:

  My computer has been in fine shape for those 4 years.
  You don't need an anti-virus if you know what you're doing.
  It's secure enough.

  I'm sorry, but this is demonstratably false. In addition to the obvious logic of "I've never been to a doctor and nothing's wrong" countered with "If something is wrong, you don't know about it", there's the fact that it doesn't matter if you "know what you're doing" as simply browsing web pages can be enough for an infection to get in.
  
  http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox.html
  There's the known vulnerabilities page for Firefox, for example. The latest version of Firefox fixed four vulnerabilities (which means they were in the previous version) that are marked as...

  Critical: Vulnerability can be used to run attacker code and install software, requiring no user interaction beyond normal browsing.

  
  
  Indeed, vulnerabilities like this in web-facing software (browsers, media players, interactive multimedia) are the primary entry method for viruses and malware nowadays.
  
  inb4 "But it's fine as long as you only visit safe sites", no.
  http://mashable.com/2009/09/15/new-york-times-malware/
  http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20000898-245.html
  There's some examples of big-name websites (Yahoo, The New York Times, anything with Google's Ads) that unknowingly had infectious scripts inserted into them (mainly through the advertising modules).
  

  Found in ads delivered from those networks was JavaScript code that Avast dubbed "JS:Prontexi," which Avast researcher Jiri Sejtko said is a Trojan in script form that targets the Windows operating system. It looks for vulnerabilities in Adobe Reader and Acrobat, Java, QuickTime, and Flash and launches fake antivirus warnings, Sejtko said.
  
  Users don't need to click on anything to get infected; a computer becomes infected after the ad is loaded by the browser, Avast said.

  
  
  All somebody had to do at the time was view a page, and if they had a certain version of their browser or any one of those plugins installed, they'd find an infection on their machine. If they had proper preventative measures in-place they'd find it found and quarantined/deleted, but if they didn't... they'd find their machines infected.
  
  And no, this was not a one-time incident (it was just notable because the same people managed to insert their shit into multiple big-name sites in a single go), vulnerabilities are found in web-facing software all the time.
  
  http://www.itpro.co.uk/desktop-software/20036/oracle-issues-critical-patches-40-java-vulnerabilities
  40 "critical" security fixes in Java a month ago...
  
  http://www.adobe.com/support/security/
  A number of security fixes that had to be done earlier this month...
  
  I'd like to link to the vulnerabilities and security advisories for other products (Chrome, IE, WMP, etc.), but most companies like Microsoft keep them under wraps with the idea that the less people that know about them, the less people will try to exploit them.
  
  I fix computers for a living and I cannot count the number of machines that just 'randomly got infected' because the user was browsing around the good ol' internet with no protection, thinking that all they had to do was avoid purposely downloading warez or something. What's worse is that a lot of these go undetected (due to having no security software!) until something becomes visibly wrong.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-31 14:22
  On phone. I'll respond in detail later, but that's on ethernet ADSL2+ Utilising the best deal in our area.
  
  That is in general to the us, yes. Even pinging to a server within 50 miles gives me ~2-4 Mbps and ~50-60 ms ping on average.
• Snowie Stormflower wrote on 2013-07-31 14:31

  Quote from Rydian;1129907:

  I'm sorry, but this is demonstratably false. In addition to the obvious logic of "I've never been to a doctor and nothing's wrong" countered with "If something is wrong, you don't know about it", there's the fact that it doesn't matter if you "know what you're doing" as simply browsing web pages can be enough for an infection to get in.
  
  http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox.html
  There's the known vulnerabilities page for Firefox, for example. The latest version of Firefox fixed four vulnerabilities (which means they were in the previous version) that are marked as...
  .

  
  
  I learned where my viruses came from eventually, so I knew what to avoid and when I could stop using it.
  I've also noticed that having an anti-virus tends to make people very careless, thinking the anti-virus will do everything for them.
  That's why I don't use an anti-virus anymore, I've learned to rely on myself rather than on some tools to protect me.
  
  [SPOILER="Derp."]I've only ever caught a virus once during that time, but I managed to track it down too.
  It was in a location that made it near impossible to delete, so instead, I changed its function, heh.[/SPOILER]
  
  Of course I wouldn't advise anyone to do the same (running without an anti-virus), but people need to learn that it's not the god of computer protection.
  
  Either way, most VPNs are safe, Genso has no reason to get paranoid over this.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-31 14:34
  No, an antivirus won't cure everything. The doctor analogy was spot on - sometimes you've gotta make some lifestyle changes, not just take some pills.
  
  That said, i'm computer illiterate which makes me paranoid with everything.
• Snowie Stormflower wrote on 2013-07-31 14:36

  Quote from Gensokyou;1129914:

  No, an antivirus won't cure everything. The doctor analogy was spot on - sometimes you've gotta make some lifestyle changes, not just take some pills.
  
  That said, i'm computer illiterate which makes me paranoid with everything.

  
  
  And is that why you...
  
  

  Quote from Gensokyou;1129622:

  make sure I use at least 3-4 different antiviruses

  
  
  Because I don't think they would have any more impact than just 1 anti-virus.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-31 14:39
  Sometimes AVG picks up things that S&D doesn't, to use that as an example.
  
  I don't know why, but it does.
• Rydian wrote on 2013-07-31 17:26

  Quote from Snowie Stormflower;1129913:

  That's why I don't use an anti-virus anymore, I've learned to rely on myself rather than on some tools to protect me.

  Like a biker deciding to bike safer instead of wearing a helmet?
  
  Do both and actually be safer.
  
  

  Quote from Snowie Stormflower;1129913:

  Of course I wouldn't advise anyone to do the same (running without an anti-virus),

  Then don't mention it, because people will think it's the cool thing to do and will do it themselves. A good portion of the people's computers I fix had no AV because they thought they'd be cooler or smarter if they ran without one (or get more gaming performance or something, but that's another discussion entirely).
  
  

  Quote from Snowie Stormflower;1129913:

  but people need to learn that it's not the god of computer protection.

  No, updating your software and watching your habits can stop most stuff from getting in, but the AV is there to stop the stuff that does reach your computer (and as I pointed out, even stuff on sites like Mabination can try to pass you an infection if you're unlucky).
  
  

  Quote from Snowie Stormflower;1129913:

  Either way, most VPNs are safe, Genso has no reason to get paranoid over this.

  Agreed, VPNs are encrypted and the companies are paid to do this, they have no reason to watch what a user is doing.
  
  

  Quote from Gensokyou;1129916:

  Sometimes AVG picks up things that S&D doesn't, to use that as an example.
  
  I don't know why, but it does.

  That's because S&D isn't an antivirus, it's anti-malware. You should only have one antivirus installed, but should pair it with an antimalware so the bases are covered.
  
  People may like to lump all types of computer infections into the "virus" name, but there's multiple categories that work and act differently, which is why various different softwares have sprung up.
  
  Anyways you should really shut down all the other machines in your household and put the router's security on something like WPA or WPA2 (WEP can be cracked in minutes following a youtube tutorial, it is not safe) to make sure that your machine is the only one using the internet at the time you test.
• RogerWilco wrote on 2013-07-31 19:07
  Nah i had a WTFast account 2 years ago and never had any problems, besides they've been alot time on the bussiness i doubt they're scammers lol.
• Snowie Stormflower wrote on 2013-07-31 20:18
  Before I forget, here is the video you guys wanted.
  
  [video=youtube;cq__39wiumk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq__39wiumk[/video]
  
  It doesn't seem to have much effect on pets, dunno why.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-31 22:25

  Quote from Rydian:

  Anyways you should really shut down all the other machines in your household and put the router's security on something like WPA or WPA2 (WEP can be cracked in minutes following a youtube tutorial, it is not safe) to make sure that your machine is the only one using the internet at the time you test.

  
  
  Cool, thanks, will do.
  
  

  Quote from Snowie Stormflower;1130019:

  Before I forget, here is the video you guys wanted.
  
  [video=youtube;cq__39wiumk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq__39wiumk[/video]
  
  It doesn't seem to have much effect on pets, dunno why.

  
  
  The only difference I notice is that you load skills much, much faster then me even without a VPN.
  
  In other words, I can't see the difference ;~;
• radionoise wrote on 2013-07-31 22:32
  >constantly complains about lag
  >adamantly against using wtfast
  genny pls
  
  I tested it during the 1 month free trial, never had an easier time getting field boss finishes or competing for commerce limiteds. Only reason I stopped using it is well, because you have to pay for it and I do not like paying for things.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-31 22:39

  Quote from radionoise;1130047:

  >constantly complains about lag
  >adamantly against using wtfast
  genny pls

  
  
  Not saying it's not effective.
  
  Saying it's not safe.
• Snowie Stormflower wrote on 2013-07-31 23:47

  Quote from Gensokyou;1130051:

  Not saying it's not effective.
  
  Saying it's not safe.

  
  
  If you had bothered to at least read the introduction of the article I sent you before you ran off...
  
  

  Quote from Wikipedia:

  A virtual private network (VPN) extends a private network across a public network, such as the Internet. It enables a computer to send and receive data across shared or public networks as if it were directly connected to the private network, while benefitting from the functionality, security and management policies of the private network.[1] This is done by establishing a virtual point-to-point connection through the use of dedicated connections, encryption, or a combination of the two.

  
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VPN
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-07-31 23:53

  Quote from Snowie Stormflower;1130068:

  If you had bothered to at least read the introduction of the article I sent you before you ran off...
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VPN

  
  
  CJ explained to me how it worked. You encrypt it at your end, send it off to them, and they unencrypt it. Ergo, they have access to your information.