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Zeo wrote on 2013-09-12 17:20
Quote from Zeo;1146255:
Do you mind providing the link to it please?
I'm still waiting for whoever can link to GameAbout with the new training requirement info for some of the Alchemy skills...
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Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-09-12 18:01
Quote from Zeo;1147529:
I'm still waiting for whoever can link to GameAbout with the new training requirement info for some of the Alchemy skills...
We can probably dig that information up ourselves. I'll put in a request for it.
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Aubog007 wrote on 2013-09-12 18:01
Quote from Zeo;1147529:
I'm still waiting for whoever can link to GameAbout with the new training requirement info for some of the Alchemy skills...
http://mabinogi.gameabout.com/skill/?sk=4
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Zeo wrote on 2013-09-17 02:17
Quote from Kingofrunes;1147548:
We can probably dig that information up ourselves. I'll put in a request for it.
Thank you. I look forward to see some of the new training requirements to see if there's a skill that we should train now or wait til rebalance patch to train.
Quote from Aubog007;1147549:
http://mabinogi.gameabout.com/skill/?sk=4
Thank you as well, time to use fail google translation to see what I can get on some of the skills.
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Tropa wrote on 2013-09-17 02:42
[Image: http://puu.sh/4tjYk.jpg]
Example of Frozenwave's range
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Kaeporo wrote on 2013-09-17 03:47
Alchemy did me a favor and recorded the damage output of his volcano cylinder ego and hellfire cylinder. His damage output with the hellfire is fairly comparable to my own when you consider the enchants that he's using.
His spirit weapon, however, proves to me that cylinder egos increase not the cylinder modifier but the actual elemental modifier (stacking with "Elemental" Alchemy skills).
Not only that but his critical hits fail to even break the 2.5x critical hit multiplier.
[video=youtube;M3IBYoN0fTc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3IBYoN0fTc&feature=youtu.be&nxid=10[/video]
If this is correct, the spirit Volcano Cylinder would be one of the worst cylinders to use with Flame Burst.
On the bright side, the spirit Volcano Cylinder should deal around 45~110k with Wave Buster.
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Aubog007 wrote on 2013-09-17 05:09
Quote from Kaeporo;1149222:
Alchemy did me a favor and recorded the damage output of his volcano cylinder ego and hellfire cylinder. His damage output with the hellfire is fairly comparable to my own when you consider the enchants that he's using.
His spirit weapon, however, proves to me that cylinder egos increase not the cylinder modifier but the actual elemental modifier (stacking with "Elemental" Alchemy skills).
Not only that but his critical hits fail to even break the 2.5x critical hit multiplier.
[video=youtube;M3IBYoN0fTc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3IBYoN0fTc&feature=youtu.be&nxid=10[/video]
If this is correct, the spirit Volcano Cylinder would be one of the worst cylinders to use with Flame Burst.
On the bright side, the spirit Volcano Cylinder should deal around 45~110k with Wave Buster.
Also EQ egos have no effect on golem whatsoever.
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Tropa wrote on 2013-09-17 06:11
Quote from Kaeporo;1149222:
If this is correct, the spirit Volcano Cylinder would be one of the worst cylinders to use with Flame Burst.
Ouch, and I know quite a few people who heavily invested in volcano egos, that hurts.
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wildk wrote on 2013-09-17 08:07
Quote from Kaeporo;1149222:
His spirit weapon, however, proves to me that cylinder egos increase not the cylinder modifier but the actual elemental modifier (stacking with "Elemental" Alchemy skills).
Wait, I'm a noob but which part is the stacking elemental modifier again?
Normal Damage
{[(Base Damage + Fire Damage Enchants) * Charges + Damage Enchants] * Critical Modifier - Enemy Defense} * (1 - Enemy Protection)
Additional Damage
This damage ignores defense and protection.
Additional Damage * Charges * (Alchemy Mastery Bonus + Fire Alchemy Mastery Bonus) / .15
Final Damage
(Normal Damage + Additional Damage) * Cylinder Modifier * Elemental Modifier
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Gensokyou wrote on 2013-09-17 08:18
Seems to me Kaeporo is saying it affects the "additional damage" part.
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Tropa wrote on 2013-09-17 08:20
Quote from Gensokyou;1149283:
Seems to me Kaeporo is saying it affects the "additional damage" part.
If that's the case, Ego cylinders are trash for both Flame and Cannon.
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wildk wrote on 2013-09-17 08:24
Quote from Tropa;1149284:
If that's the case, Ego cylinders are trash
Fixed it for you. Maybe except the spirit awakening, but still
Edit: Does that mean that all XXXX Alchemy enhancement reforges affect the same part of the equation, assuming it's the "additional damage" for now?
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Tropa wrote on 2013-09-17 08:43
Quote from wildk;1149285:
Fixed it for you. Maybe except the spirit awakening, but still
Edit: Does that mean that all XXXX Alchemy enhancement reforges affect the same part of the equation, assuming it's the "additional damage" for now?
Element Efficiency reforges effect the additional damage.
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Aubog007 wrote on 2013-09-17 09:47
This is most likely an oversight.
Well i would hope.
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Kendoza wrote on 2013-09-17 09:53
And people called me crazy for making a Fire Cylinder. [S]I still am[/s]
At least I won't feel as bad for leveling it passively. Considering the results.