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Aliyah wrote on 2014-01-21 22:34
Quote from rangero;1190109:
It's actually trash, not going to lie. Raiding is trash even with raid crystals, just use potent finest crystals and run DFCII and make 105k a run every 5 minutes?
Easy easy easy
Nice guide, but it is a waste of time, anyways you look broke on mabinogi bro.
How does it compare time-wise to bft2? I spam battle for tail b/c of lees running around (plus with magic you just Fb and move along so the dura use is low). But I'll have to try this sometime.
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SlurpTASTY wrote on 2014-01-21 22:37
Quote from rangero;1190109:
It's actually trash, not going to lie. Raiding is trash even with raid crystals, just use potent finest crystals and run DFCII and make 105k a run every 5 minutes?
Easy easy easy
Nice guide, but it is a waste of time, anyways you look broke on mabinogi bro.
Potent finests are 80k each in Alexina, that's 25k/5 minutes which is 5k/minute. Conflict is around 15k/minute, raids are 6k/minute. Still beating your DFC2.
Also I look "broke" in game because I'd rather spend money on reforges instead of fashionogi, ignorance is bliss.
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Zekkii wrote on 2014-01-21 22:38
I'm still waiting for the 800k~1.5m without crystals method.
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k1nsoo wrote on 2014-01-21 22:42
Quote from rangero;1190109:
anyways you look broke on mabinogi bro.
Oh please, I think raids are better than selling reforges like other members x)
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Proxied wrote on 2014-01-21 22:42
Quote from Yuuki Asuna;1190114:
Not really. It would be especially impacting on the Alexina market where supply often outpaces demand.
It's hard to imagine a ton of groups of 3 people strong enough and dedicated enough to clear it and cause enough inflation to make a huge impact especially when the requirements to gain 900k an hour with no crystal is extremely large especially during school actively being in session for almost everyone now. Like Kazusa said, "and even less who are willing to put up with it to make gold". Though I am curious to know what the examples of inflation from just this method are in ruairi. It's pretty good money for those who aren't insanely strong, but nowhere near 900k ~ 1.5m an hour especially without crystals. Other public spam SM methods which happen a lot give around the same as what I experienced with 4 strong people attempting this method, and that doesn't seem to inflate the economy
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JoseTheFro wrote on 2014-01-21 22:49
Quote from Zekkii;1190119:
I'm still waiting for the 800k~1.5m without crystals method.
Expect the
Unexpected!
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newpants wrote on 2014-01-21 22:54
Quote from Kazusa Touma;1190104:
it's also funny because in a different thread, i said that this method was posted on nx forums, and no one gave a shit to even look
lol you mean
http://mabinogi.nexon.net/Community/forums#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1069704-Guide-to-make-good-amount-of-golds-per-minute%26nxid%3D10
good thread. you guys should make "dog eater guild" angry more often.
if y'all were really that worried about "inflation". you would of let them continue doing his raids instead of bragging all about your "secret money maker".
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Kazusa Touma wrote on 2014-01-21 22:57
unfortunately i'm pretty sure the case is different for alexina
just from the # of people i see here posting their stats or new reforges or whatnot, i'm pretty sure you guys have a lot more ppl who would be able and willing to do this method if they really wanted gold.
no, 800-1.5 is not for the decently strong, it's for those 5-6k+ people who have maxed out their reforges, and i'm sure you have enough people like that on alexina.
from this one guild spamming this mission on ruairi, i've seen dyes, which used to be buyable very easily at 150k, now essentially get sold out rather fast in personal shops for 200k ea, and basically only a few people are willing to sell them for less than 170-180k now. on housing, the cheapest you'll find is about 230-250k for a dye. you could say this is due to gacha, but even when gacha disappeared, those prices never dropped. mind you, this guild spent hours a day doing this the whole entire summer... people are willing to buy nx at 2.5/10k now without too much a fuss now either, but before, prices wouldn't even go above 2/10.
and while i say RUAIRI has only a handful of people who are able to and willing to do this method, i really don't quite see it being the same for alexina.
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Renzato wrote on 2014-01-21 23:00
Haha christ, guys. This thread is saltier than the damn Dead Sea.
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SlurpTASTY wrote on 2014-01-21 23:01
This is a very cute method of making gold that's for sure. I just made like 600k~800k an hour without crystals, but raids are like a whole package deal type thing. Sure it's not the best at making gold or leveling up, but there's so many benefits to doing them that I don't see why you wouldn't do them.
In any case Conflict is just something instead of NPC/raids to spam with my guild.
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Kazusa Touma wrote on 2014-01-21 23:18
Quote from newpants;1190123:
lol you mean http://mabinogi.nexon.net/Community/forums#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1069704-Guide-to-make-good-amount-of-golds-per-minute%26nxid%3D10
good thread. you guys should make "dog eater guild" angry more often.
if y'all were really that worried about "inflation". you would of let them continue doing his raids instead of bragging all about your "secret money maker".
yeah, i'm clearly bragging about my secret money maker cuz you know i TOTALLY use this method myself to make gold amirite~
funny because all i do in mabi is stand in the bank party glitching or bd raiding.. if you even knew anything about me the only time i bother to do anything outside of dailies is during double ap or dr, and the only thing i spam during that is swhm on 2x combat pot
clearly you have something against "dog eater guild"... jealous much eh?
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newpants wrote on 2014-01-21 23:49
lol i don't even know what guild it's talking about. it gives pretty good insight on the people who posted in that thread tho.
anyways, it's funny that people are scared that the most boring shadow mission is going to change up the entire mabi economy.
bft2 has been known for awhile, but you don't see everyone spamming it. you don't see everyone spamming raids either. you're definitely not going to see that many people spamming conflict lol. most people just don't care.
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Kazusa Touma wrote on 2014-01-21 23:59
yeah, because it doesn't fucking matter that much since we're on ruairi
not enough people care or bother for that matter.. it's already posted publicly on our forums ffs
haven't you been paying attention to the economy? i'm fairly certain that that guild alone + the increasing # of ppl who knew about that method caused prices to go up slowly but surely during the past few months. look at our dyes -- easily 170k-180k now, when they were 130-150k before, and they haven't dropped ever since they hit that price a few months ago.. outfits like scathach, odran, w/e 7m+, when they were 5-6m after eweca orb gacha permanently released them anyway; i've noticed a lot of prices for many other things have gone up too.
people spam raids on alexina, pretty sure they spam bft2 or dfc2 as well. none of those make gold near as fast as conflict though once your dps reaches a certain point, which is why i say it will actually cause some massive inflation once it's known to most on the server.
if you don't think conflict is the source of inflation, please do tell me what could be this source of inflation we're having eh? it's not extremely noticeable but it's definitely there
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newpants wrote on 2014-01-22 00:41
the source of it is having no real gold sinks in the economy other than special reforges and taxes. inflation is bound to happen regardless of any way people get gold in this game.
conflict might be a good money maker, but will never be significant in the economy when only like >1% does it.
i'm pretty sure the inflation is when people casually do events which have been throwing out money to everyone. it's a much slower rate but more accessible/new/interesting and more commonly done. just awhile ago people were able to just afk in that other joe event for free money and exp. many people do saga as well which is also ultra accessible. dailies, etc. i'm pretty sure it's the more common sources of gold that drives the prices of dyes/gacha items these days
i've always envisioned inflation to happen at a higher rate when people are actually playing mabi and not afking in it.
that said, i'd claim that alexina is not going to change anymore than it already should be changing with how active its player base may be. i can't say much for its demographics not playing on it. i'd imagine alexina's to be similar in proportions to all the other servers, just in bigger numbers.
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Kazusa Touma wrote on 2014-01-22 00:58
see, here's the thing though, im under the impression that ruairi is the only server experiencing the recent inflation with dye prices, other items and whatnot. if it's really the events that have been causing it, they should be experiencing this inflation too. other servers can correct me if i'm wrong - if they've actually been getting steady inflation during the past several months as well.
we've always had a bunch of afk events that gave out gold and items for years, i don't see how it's any different now. ever since the massive duping stopped from a few years back, the economy was deflating until nx hit a 2m/10k rate, where it steadied out for quite a while and even dropped below that a bit. it was only in the recent months that prices started inflating again though.
to give you an idea of how much one person's made off this method -- leader of said guild apparently got banned for 24 hours because he bought $300 worth of reforges in a short time span (I would guess a few days) and nexon thought he was hacking. needs confirmation, but that's what his guildie told me as to why he's not lead of the guild atm.
i really don't think alexina is very similar to ruairi in terms of high-leveled reforge crazed players (proportionately, i'm pretty sure we have a lot less).. considering that many players from ruairi, mari, and tarlach moved to alexina specifically to be at the "top" of the new server or to be "better" on the new server... yeah, i'm not seeing that kind of spam being on the same scale as ruairi.