Raids and you

• Kazusa Touma wrote on 2014-01-22 04:57

  Quote from Zekkii;1190288:

  It has to be at least 30 minutes, otherwise you're really not providing much other than a speed run. I can show you a BT2 run in 1:45 but it doesn't mean I can do BT2 34 times per hour.
  First off the crystals don't matter, I just sold all mine for 80k each and I didn't need to do squat. If they're really that cheap on Ruairi right not then great, but that's not 800k~1.5m without crystals. Explicitly the 1.5m.

  
  
  you said nigh impossible though, he did it in the first run
  
  and if 30-40s is fast, then 50s-1min is average
  
  it doesn't matter because even if ur making 20k per minute that's still 1.2m/hr, then subtract repair costs, it mite b like 1-1.1m
  
  obv the 1.5 is the high end of the estimate and it excludes repairs and shet, but you get the point, you're spawning gold at that rate
  
  at the very least, with a group of 5-6k+ maxed out on reforges, ur gonna b makin 800k
  
  comparing my claim to 500m an hour is completely uncalled for ^_^
• Natteke wrote on 2014-01-22 04:59

  Quote from Kazusa Touma;1190289:

  nah i asked jose 2 film it LOL
  
  i'd just slo ppl down and i dont like doin shet on mabi anyway
  
  that's y i'm so sad i missed out on 20 training seals T_T

  
  nooob
  
  

  Then I raised the prices by accident. And I still don't get why people need to prove this... If people in other servers are that incompetent then... real terror.

  
  "accident" my butt :(!
  
  

  at the very least, with a group of 5-6k+ maxed out on reforges, ur gonna b makin 800k

  
  exactly yo sometimes i do 900k but ye
• k1nsoo wrote on 2014-01-22 05:05
  Someone please close this thread
• SlurpTASTY wrote on 2014-01-22 05:08
  Or just clean it up, I like my thread open. :(
• Reyaxris wrote on 2014-01-22 05:08
  I think people dunno the method to deal with the stupid run hence why they claim it's nigh impossible. Yes, you can always brute force it(conflict) to death, no doubt about that. But what makes the run fast is if your group has the right pattern, stats, and gear. 35 Sec completion was the fastest my guild group could do.
  
  Now if you want to be all technical we'd have to account for the time spent loading in, loading out, grabbing the SM, etc so it's pretty much adding 5~8 sec. But seriously, I do not see how it is -IMPOSSIBLE- for people to run it within the same time frame or better.
• Kazusa Touma wrote on 2014-01-22 05:12
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tENN_LuIAB0&feature=youtu.be
  
  conflict hm kthx guis
• Reyaxris wrote on 2014-01-22 05:15

  Quote from Kazusa Touma;1190300:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tENN_LuIAB0&feature=youtu.be
  
  conflict hm kthx guis

  
  
  Well, there's the proof lol. The impossible turned possible.
• Aliyah wrote on 2014-01-22 05:19

  Quote from Kazusa Touma;1190300:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tENN_LuIAB0&feature=youtu.be
  
  conflict hm kthx guis

  
  
  Thats neat, but wasn't the request for 30-60mn of consistant >1mn runs, not one speed run? Not to mention loading/getting the mission was skipped?
• Zekkii wrote on 2014-01-22 05:23
  Well there you have it ladies and gentlemen, a 40 second run, at the absolute end of the spectrum. No loading time, no exiting, no opening chest, no getting the mission, climactic crash critical, smash critical, no ice mine freezing, and of course no banking. The biggest joke is, I explicitly said it was possible. Good work everyone, you sure showed me.
• Kazusa Touma wrote on 2014-01-22 05:24

  Quote from Aliyah;1190303:

  Thats neat, but wasn't the request for 30-60mn of consistant >1mn runs, not one speed run?

  
  
  i was only here to prove that 30-40 isn't "nigh impossible" like zekkii claims it to be
  
  nigh impossible implying it would be really rare to have a run that fast.. except these guys do it at maybe about a 30% frequency
  
  maybe you can ask kudii to show you several 50-60s runs in a row eh
  
  

  Quote from Zekkii;1190304:

  Well there you have it ladies and gentlemen, a 40 second run, at the absolute end of the spectrum. No loading time, no exiting, no opening chest, no getting the mission, climactic crash critical, smash critical, no ice mine freezing, and of course no banking. The biggest joke is, I explicitly said it was possible. Good work everyone, you sure showed me.

  
  
  LOL at the absolute end of the spectrum
  
  that was the first run he did for recording and you think it's insanely rare or sth?
  
  ofc it's got no loading time, i never said 30-40 is including loading, i said 30-40 for a run
  
  u claimed 30-40 is nigh impossible for a run
  
  mind u this guy doesn't even have the best puppet damage since his dex would be a lot lower compared to what a human could achieve.
  
  and the others? pretty sure they don't have the best damage or reforges either /roll eyes
  
  lmfao absolute end of the spectrum
  
  ok there
  
  

  Quote from Zekkii;1190272:

  -30~40 seconds is nigh impossible, let alone repeatable. I could do BT2 in 2 minutes as frequently

• Reyaxris wrote on 2014-01-22 05:25

  Quote from Aliyah;1190303:

  Thats neat, but wasn't the request for 30-60mn of consistant >1mn runs, not one speed run? Not to mention loading/getting the mission was skipped?

  
  
  That was no request. It was to prove that runs in Conflict that are within 30~50 marker are possible... Even tho their claim was "nigh impossible."
  
  Even if you add up entering/exiting/grabbing mission you are only adding in 4~8 sec. The party that does this does it consistently.
  
  Quote Originally Posted by Zekkii View Post
  @Kazusa
  
  *raid crystals
  
  -30~40 seconds is nigh impossible, let alone repeatable. I could do BT2 in 2 minutes as frequently"
  
  ????????????
• JoseTheFro wrote on 2014-01-22 05:27

  Quote from Zekkii;1190304:

  Well there you have it ladies and gentlemen, a 40 second run, at the absolute end of the spectrum. No loading time, no exiting, no opening chest, no getting the mission, climactic crash critical, smash critical, no ice mine freezing, and of course no banking. The biggest joke is, I explicitly said it was possible. Good work everyone, you sure showed me.

  
  
  I just recorded the first run I got o-o...
  
  And i'm not even an ideal puppeteer for this. All in all It's pretty easy to maintain 1minute runs. Entering/exiting included.
• SlurpTASTY wrote on 2014-01-22 05:39
  Sooooo... about those raids... :kiss:
• Renzato wrote on 2014-01-22 05:39

  Quote from SlurpTASTY;1190308:

  Sooooo... about those raids... :kiss:

  
  
  Dooly - i mean Prairie Dragon is my favorite...(///∇///)
• Zekkii wrote on 2014-01-22 05:40
  So what exactly is your point? I never asked for a video of this, you only did the combat part in 40 seconds, and you are refusing to acknowledge any of my arguments. Now I'm going to make this easy for both of us. I acknowledge that:
  
  -Conflict is a great source of income for a team of 3 or 4 people provided you have one person who can easily deal with the archers
  -I like to do this myself using Crisis + IS + Blaze
  -You can make 600~800k gold from doing this per hour with a concentrated team
  
  I deny that:
  
  -Entering, and exiting and banking and so forth takes 4~6~8 seconds
  -You can make as much as 1.5m/hour doing this *Without crystals
  
  Now I won't deny that I have been aggravated by your guild members, and I have most assuredly aggravated them. However this does not mean my arguments are faulty, as I have used no or few fallacies if any. Now please, it doesn't take several people arguing against one cat to try to prove a point.