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So what exactly is your point? I never asked for a video of this, you only did the combat part in 40 seconds, and you are refusing to acknowledge any of my arguments. Now I'm going to make this easy for both of us. I acknowledge that:
-Conflict is a great source of income for a team of 3 or 4 people provided you have one person who can easily deal with the archers
-I like to do this myself using Crisis + IS + Blaze
-You can make 600~800k gold from doing this per hour with a concentrated team
I deny that:
-Entering, and exiting and banking and so forth takes 4~6~8 seconds
-You can make as much as 1.5m/hour doing this *Without crystals
Now I won't deny that I have been aggravated by your guild members, and I have most assuredly aggravated them. However this does not mean my arguments are faulty, as I have used no or few fallacies if any. Now please, it doesn't take several people arguing against one cat to try to prove a point.
Look at all the people interested in my cool raid information! woah!!!!!!!!!! I'm so popular!!
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I don't know if this is directed towards me at all but just in case!
I'm not arguing, simply discussing.
I never stated you could earn 1.5m per hour (1m tops with out crystals)
Entering and exiting take about 5-10 seconds each.
Banking? Every hour maybe? (Lots of money bags is ideal!)
Sorry to OP for the derailment.
I'm not arguing, simply discussing.
I never stated you could earn 1.5m per hour (1m tops with out crystals)
i think ruairi's econ is fine as it is~
400k an hour is really slow and not worth it =C
there's another grinding method that can net 800k-1.5m/hr without shadow crystals
I don't know if this is directed towards me at all but just in case!
I'm not arguing, simply discussing.
I never stated you could earn 1.5m per hour (1m tops with out crystals)
Entering and exiting take about 5-10 seconds each.
Banking? Every hour maybe? (Lots of money bags is ideal!)
Sorry to OP for the derailment.
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Don't forget this Jose. My party will beat yours.
So what exactly is your point? I never asked for a video of this, you only did the combat part in 40 seconds, and you are refusing to acknowledge any of my arguments. Now I'm going to make this easy for both of us. I acknowledge that:
-Conflict is a great source of income for a team of 3 or 4 people provided you have one person who can easily deal with the archers
-I like to do this myself using Crisis + IS + Blaze
-You can make 600~800k gold from doing this per hour with a concentrated team
I deny that:
-Entering, and exiting and banking and so forth takes 4~6~8 seconds
-You can make as much as 1.5m/hour doing this *Without crystals
Now I won't deny that I have been aggravated by your guild members, and I have most assuredly aggravated them. However this does not mean my arguments are faulty, as I have used no or few fallacies if any. Now please, it doesn't take several people arguing against one cat to try to prove a point.
That was no request. It was to prove that runs in Conflict that are within 30~50 marker are possible... Even tho their claim was "nigh impossible."
Even if you add up entering/exiting/grabbing mission you are only adding in 4~8 sec. The party that does this does it consistently.
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@Kazusa
*raid crystals
-30~40 seconds is nigh impossible, let alone repeatable. I could do BT2 in 2 minutes as frequently"
????????????
It has to be at least 30 minutes, otherwise you're really not providing much other than a speed run. I can show you a BT2 run in 1:45 but it doesn't mean I can do BT2 34 times per hour.
First off the crystals don't matter, I just sold all mine for 80k each and I didn't need to do squat. If they're really that cheap on Ruairi right not then great, but that's not 800k~1.5m without crystals. Explicitly the 1.5m.
only rey is my guild member, the others aren't even a part of my guild, they're people who consistently run the mission in ~1 min and consistently make ~1m an hour and here you are saying that it's nigh impossible to 1. run @ 30-40 secs and 2. make 1m an hour with this method. again, just because YOU can't do it doesn't mean others can't.
first you should understand that the video doesn't even include an ideal party; giant puppetry isn't the best and jose doesn't usually do the back
his smash crit once and cc crit once, do you know the chance of crit on a cc after crisis? 50% since it hits twice, and he smashed 3 times, and crit once on his smashes.. that might be slightly on the lucky side but it's not too far from standard since i'm fairly certain he's got crit cap with lance
like i said, 1.5m is the highest end of the spectrum and it excludes repair costs, but pretty damn sure it can be done with the ideal party. 1.5m per person on average in the party? more than likely not, but for one person, it's achievable depending on what role you're playing in the party. exiting mission loads fast, at least for me it takes about 1 sec to load on exit, and maybe a few more on entry now that i have a better comp. grabbing the mission takes about maybe 5-6, so add 10-15 secs and you're set. yeah you're limited to the slowest person in the party, just be sure that he's not the one grabbing the mission then?
banking, what banking, i can carry 2.5-3m in my inv alone, these guys prob carry 1m or so if i had to guess
lol @ bft2
8D...
I was talking about his post, just a few posts later?
That's not the point at all. If I was making 500m an hour and did nothing but grind for 16 hours a day I could make 56 billion every week, just being one person. However I can't, and I wouldn't. The conflict SM isn't a secret, it doesn't make 1m/hour
it doesn't make 1m/hour