[Discussion - Game Balance] Current skills that needs tweaking?

• Perfectio wrote on 2014-02-04 21:01
  The issue with Blaze is that it has to oneshot the mob or it's useless because it's too risky and annoying to setup.
• Zekkii wrote on 2014-02-04 21:15
  Blaze is hardly OP, it just has high damage. You only see it, rarely, being used in MA tourney and maybe the odd SM for fun. Given the prep time, knockdown requirement, range, and common misfires, the damage is well deserved. You can't effectually use it in Peaca Abyss or Lord or most high-tier content anyways. If you don't like you MA party using blaze then find a new party because there's something like a 95% chance that no one will be blazing in it. There's 100 ways with dozens of skills to do every MA round in under 1 minute anyways so suck it up. Blaze is one of the most well balanced skills in game.
• Xeno wrote on 2014-02-04 21:27

  Quote from Zekkii;1194634:

  Blaze is hardly OP, it just has high damage. You only see it, rarely, being used in MA tourney and maybe the odd SM for fun. Given the prep time, knockdown requirement, range, and common misfires, the damage is well deserved. You can't effectually use it in Peaca Abyss or Lord or most high-tier content anyways. If you don't like you MA party using blaze then find a new party because there's something like a 95% chance that no one will be blazing in it. There's 100 ways with dozens of skills to do every MA round in under 1 minute anyways so suck it up. Blaze is one of the most well balanced skills in game.

  
  
  Really? Because it is used very commonly here on Mari in both lords and MA and is growing in popularity as people learn how OP it is. And besides that, please, tell me how a skill is "one of the most well balanced skills in the game" when, literally, it renders everyone else in the party unable to contribute in any way besides perhaps buffing/healing? That seems pretty messed up to me. I don't know of many other skills or combos besides ice spear that prevent other people from doing anything, and you rarely see IS used because of that effect.
  
  I'd really love to hear someone tell me how much fun they are having in a Blaze group if they aren't the blazer or the puppeteer setting it up. Because if you aren't one of those two people in the group, congratulations you get to stand there and watch, maybe 1 or 2 shot the deadly enemy left over after the combo. Not fun.
• Zekkii wrote on 2014-02-04 21:42
  Crash Shot
  I went into every HM shadow mission ever and the archer shotted and everything died so I couldn't use my blaze lol xD I was useless
• Syrion wrote on 2014-02-04 21:55
  yeah update synth so i can make money 8D
• Zekkii wrote on 2014-02-04 22:24

  Quote from Syrion;1194655:

  yeah update synth so i can make money 8D

  
  [S]Rename it Dorren's Request Mastery[/S]
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-02-04 23:41

  Quote from Perfectio;1194595:

  Mana Shield does not need to be touched. It's actually in a perfect state right now, great for mages, mediocre for non mages.

  
  
  I don't see it. I have about 2.3 efficiency, and mobs still hit like 5x more than without Mana Shield on, making my mana go bye bye in seconds.
• Tropa wrote on 2014-02-04 23:47

  Quote from Darkboy132;1194715:

  I don't see it. I have about 2.3 efficiency, and mobs still hit like 5x more than without Mana Shield on, making my mana go bye bye in seconds.

  
  
  Then dont use it.
• SUNFLARE wrote on 2014-02-04 23:52

  Quote from SlurpTASTY;1194379:

  -final shot should make magnum have 100% crit OR instant aim (with a reduced time of effectiveness, maybe 5 seconds?).
  
  -crash shot should have a 3 second cooldown instead of 5 For Elfs
  
  -r1 xbow mastery allows you to run while aiming with magnum (up to 50%, like elf range).
  
  -xbow mastery gives you increased aim speed for magnum only.
  
  -humans/elves get full benefits from fighter skills.
  
  -remove dex penalty from heavy armors For Elfs
  
  -counterattack uses bow damage instead of barehand.

  
  
  Fixed
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-02-04 23:53

  Quote from Tropa;1194719:

  Then dont use it.

  
  
  I don't.
  
  Control of Darkness
  -Either make it better or replace the whole damn thing. I'd rather have Fissure from Vindictus rather than this bullshit.
• Syliara wrote on 2014-02-05 00:00

  Quote from SUNFLARE;1194726:

  Fixed

  
  
  No, thats too much bias for elves there.
• SUNFLARE wrote on 2014-02-05 00:03

  Quote from Nui;1194738:

  No, thats too much bias for elves there.

  Wheres the no bias for humans and giant s with def or that were supposed to be better overall in all range ?
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-02-05 00:03

  Quote from Darkboy132;1194592:

  Support Shot
  -Rebalance training requirements. Past 9, I have to not knock down an enemy SEVERAL THOUSAND TIMES PER RANK?!
  

  
  
  Called grinding. Nothing new to Mabinogi, especially considering that archery is the most grindy skillset of all.
  If you think support shot was bad, you have a long way to go. Not knocking down is easy when you can just spam it on provo walls.
• SlurpTASTY wrote on 2014-02-05 00:11

  Quote from Nui;1194738:

  No, thats too much bias for elves there.

  
  
  I think a 20% increase in fighter dmg/600% smash/10% dex penalty/only large shield/one handed lance is more bias towards giant than a 3 second cd is to elves.
• SUNFLARE wrote on 2014-02-05 00:16

  Quote from SlurpTASTY;1194742:

  I think a 20% increase in fighter dmg/600% smash/10% dex penalty/only large shield/one handed lance is more bias towards giant than a 3 second cd is to elves.

  Also Guard cylinders and also we basically Tied atm with Dex with humans if they dont release more dex only elf skills give us shorter CD for skills like CS