Most Overpowered aspect of mabinogi?

• Tyskiyomy wrote on 2014-04-22 01:31

  Quote from Johny;1216539:

  Situational but it can be overpowered at times. For one it immobolizes enemies (even if its just for 5 seconds). Second the damage on the thing is just incredible. Added to the fact that it spreads like ebola on a bad day....yea. Even if an enemy manages to survive, they can still get stuck in the freeze wave and take more damage still. One could literally solo hardmode missions just using a well placed ice spear. Maybe solo elite missions with reforges added... In my list of overpoweredness, anything that can annihilate masses upon masses of enemies with very minimal effort is considered overpowered.
  
  Though I voted for AoE pets...they make things too easy...

  
  
  Yeah I can solo a few Tara castle sm missions with just IS both hm and elite, until boss duh. But one interesing yet overpowering aspect about IS i've only noticed in Shylien with the sassys, IS appears to have the ability to be 'stacked' on an enemy with mana deflector of over 2, leading in more than one explosion at one time such as in shylien where these 40k hp sassys get mauled in like the second chain.
• Perfectio wrote on 2014-04-22 01:39
  Battlefield Overture and it's not even close.
  
  I know everyone shits on reforges because they're NX-based, but they really only provide a massive boost to 3 talents (range, fighter, melee) and only moderate (in the realm of 20-40%) to the rest, and require lots of NX or gold to reach their max potential.
  
  Battlefield overture provides a constant 33%-66% max damage boost that scales with your max damage just as much as reforges, doesn't need significant investment to get that damage (compared to reforges), is up 100% of the time, gives the boost to every skillset save for magic/alchemy, including skillsets that were deliberately balanced around not having access to elemental reforges (which are the only truly overpowered reforges compared to reforges that give boosts to a single skill).
  
  The fact is that a HUGE portion of player power comes solely from the ability to pop Battlefield Overture and get hundreds of max damage for literally doing nothing.
  
  Overture needs to provide flat max, not % scaling max.
  
  R upgrades should be reworked. How about this - R upgrades give extra max crit chance. R1 is +1, R2 is +1, R3 is +2, R4 is +3, R5 is +3, R6 is +5
  
  Now R increases your DPS but doesn't scale so hard with max damage,
  
  Crisis is a lot more broken than AOE pets unless you have like 5 ice dragons. It's the repositioning that breaks Crisis, without it, a strong mob could easily fuck you over after they unfreeze. Of course, a crisis nerf means that Hailstorm needs to be buffed in terms of splash range, as it's not very good without Crisis.
  
  The only problematic pets are ice dragons and scooters, and maybe bone dragons and nimbuses (I'd remove either the heal or the sleep, probably the sleep, or set it to a toggle)
  
  Also anyone who says IS is overpowered is crazy. 5 second load time + rather poor party synergy without blaze (which already got nerfed) = no bueno. Shylien heal bombing/Saga Ep 4 bombing isn't really unbalanced as a leveling method, seeing it's still rather dangerous.
• Tyskiyomy wrote on 2014-04-22 02:29

  Quote from Perfectio;1216554:

  Also anyone who says IS is overpowered is crazy. 5 second load time + rather poor party synergy without blaze (which already got nerfed) = no bueno. Shylien heal bombing/Saga Ep 4 bombing isn't really unbalanced as a leveling method, seeing it's still rather dangerous.

  
  
  It's not overpowered but it has aspects of being such, it has too many flaws to be considered serious in need of a nerf, i'd actually be sad if it got nerfed.
• Username wrote on 2014-04-22 02:37
  Lack of acctually working for certian skill sets.
  Buying potions imo is the most overpowered aspect.
• Justified wrote on 2014-04-22 05:16

  Quote from Kaeporo;1216060:

  It's easy to hate reforges but AOE pets are the biggest issue, full-stop.
  
  Reforges are akin to Battlefield Overture in terms of increasing composite output. Those damage bonuses are only really broken when you add them all up through extensive character development. Alone they're about as threatening as premium combo cards (which provide upwards of +40% average damage, yet nobody complains about them despite their cost/damage similarity to reforges). Not to mention, a couple of highly effective talents hardly benefit from reforges.
  
  This game started becoming extremely easy and party play became trivial when we obtained the ability to neutralize huge groups of enemies at zero opportunity cost.

  
  
  Anything that can stack in such a way, especially so easily, is broken. Plus the fact that any single skill/enhancement/item can permanently increase your capabilities by more than 50% is ridiculous. Let alone having multiples of them exist at once.
  
  Reforges > Overture >> AoE Pets (Scooter/Cloud) > Stat Inflation (Talents, Feasts) >> Combo Cards >>> AoE Pets (Deer, Horse)
  
  
  

  Quote from Tyskiyomy;1216551:

  Yeah I can solo a few Tara castle sm missions with just IS both hm and elite, until boss duh. But one interesing yet overpowering aspect about IS i've only noticed in Shylien with the sassys, IS appears to have the ability to be 'stacked' on an enemy with mana deflector of over 2, leading in more than one explosion at one time such as in shylien where these 40k hp sassys get mauled in like the second chain.

  
  
  You can solo most missions with trivial skills like Windmill too, usually faster.
  
  And that IS thing is obvious if you think about it. I took advantage of that way back in G6 for the Ciar Adv boss golems.
• December wrote on 2014-04-22 05:19
  Pre-nerf Windmilll :o Dem invinc frames
• Perfectio wrote on 2014-04-22 09:03

  Quote from Justified;1216610:

  Anything that can stack in such a way, especially so easily, is broken. Plus the fact that any single skill/enhancement/item can permanently increase your capabilities by more than 50% is ridiculous. Let alone having multiples of them exist at once.

  
  
  I agree but the reason why I don't have an issue with reforges is that you have to expend ingame effort to acquire them (or pay out of game effort in order to work to acquire them unless you have really generous parents, and i find the spoiled brat who spends hundreds of their parents money on NX is fairly rare compared to the kid who spends their chores allowance or whatever or the working stiff who pays 30 dollars a week on their hobby)
  
  
  
  You can solo most missions with trivial skills like Windmill too, usually faster.
  
  And that IS thing is obvious if you think about it. I took advantage of that way back in G6 for the Ciar Adv boss golems.[/QUOTE]
• rangero wrote on 2014-04-23 15:05
  Or just buy windmill pots U.U this game is pay2win. Gold and IRL currency.
• Jake wrote on 2014-04-23 15:39

  Quote from rangero;1216811:

  Or just buy windmill pots U.U this game is pay2win. Gold and IRL currency.

  
  
  Welll luckily in this game unlike many others its pretty easy to make decent amounts of gold without paying real money
• Kenero wrote on 2014-04-23 15:51
  The stats players get.
  
  Back in my day, getting to 200 stats was an accomplishment and akin to mastering a whole set. Now?
  
  Everyone has 400+ stats.
  
  Nothing wrong with that~! It's really fair in game growth, but monster's stats just doesn't match it.
  
  What makes it difficult is that Mabinogi is a percentale game, so when you gain 50 damage, stack with all the other percentile based increase, suffers from "major" jump in damage, which is why even enchants that gives +10 max damage is highly desirable.
• nandattebayo wrote on 2014-04-23 21:37
  Other: the memory usage.
• Transcendence wrote on 2014-04-23 23:53
  While I do agree that reforges are extremely powerful, I wouldn't call them "overpowered", at least not by the general sentiment attached to the word. I think of reforges and lotteries on the same plane. I would not consider lotteries to be overpowered, would you? Both are games of luck and both offer its players a minuscule chance of giving them what they want.
  
  I think it's fair to say that aspects are overpowered only if the ratio of time (or money) to attained power is extremely low, meaning the average user need only to spend a little amount of time or money to achieve tremendous results. By this definition, reforges, which on average take hundreds of tries to attain an elemental, is not overpowered.
• NomadTrooper wrote on 2014-04-24 09:49

  Quote from Transcendence;1216870:

  While I do agree that reforges are extremely powerful, I wouldn't call them "overpowered", at least not by the general sentiment attached to the word. I think of reforges and lotteries on the same plane. I would not consider lotteries to be overpowered, would you? Both are games of luck and both offer its players a minuscule chance of giving them what they want.
  
  I think it's fair to say that aspects are overpowered only if the ratio of time (or money) to attained power is extremely low, meaning the average user need only to spend a little amount of time or money to achieve tremendous results. By this definition, reforges, which on average take hundreds of tries to attain an elemental, is not overpowered.

  
  You actually have a chance with reforges though.
  
  Reforges are such bull shit that I don't really play anymore other then when new generations come out and don't work because of shitty Nexon servers. And on that note:
  
  Shitty Nexon servers. The most OP thing in the game. You can kill anything at any level if the servers are acting up, and they can swing completely the other way and make the wolves in Tir a deadly, inescapable, unwinable fight to your death.
• Paradise wrote on 2014-04-24 16:10
  nerf climactic multiplier from 500% to 250% and make it 2-hits max (currently 3)
  or keep the multiplier up to 400% make it 1 hit only
  
  it's too wide to have a 500%x1-3 multiplier if you ask me, it's sad how my giant can clean rooms with that thing on HM, without any effort (i barely use her or train her).
  
  that thing is OP
• Xeno wrote on 2014-04-24 16:14
  I'm amazed more people don't see Blaze as being OP. In MA/NPC/Lord runs these days, I literally stand there and do nothing while two people clear every round in 5 seconds. How is that not OP? I literally stand there and do nothing. I just don't see how people consider this a fun thing. I can't wait for the replies telling me how it isn't OP, I really, really can't wait.