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Zekkii wrote on 2014-04-21 21:42
Now I think it's pretty obvious that lance users absolutely floor sword and shield users at this point, but which style of combat do you actually prefer using? I find lances to be rather awkward and glitchy. Without the use of charge, counterattack, and defense, combat becomes a lot more focused on summon pets or brute strength. The minimum distance of lances is the worst of it though; the slightest amount of displacement can totally screw up an otherwise good smash. Although sword and shield has been completely irrelevant in meta, and has been for years, I'd love to see them making a comeback.
Please vote in the poll about which style of combat you enjoy using the most, regardless of damage and other balancing factors. For the purpose of simplicity, 2H, blunts, axes, and dual-wielding will all be included under SnS. Post why in the comments, and how you might change melee if you like.
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Tropa wrote on 2014-04-21 21:45
I love the idea of sword and shield combat(Like in zelda oot), but it just feels so weak and clump in mabinogi... I also think it's cause of the current restrictive animation locks that melee possesses which makes it a unfavorable choice.
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Sebbies wrote on 2014-04-21 21:46
Sword, and it's not even close. If I could kill things with swords as fast as I could with my lance I'd trash the thing.
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Syliara wrote on 2014-04-21 21:47
I feel sword and shield combat is too slow for my tastes honestly. I like the utility it can bring along with the ability to tank alot, but i just cant get past the speed of the combat.
Lance combat is a bit annoying and clunky to deal with, and I just started messing with it but I'm starting to get used to it and I like using it more than sword and shield. Wm basically becomes ur defense, and lance counter makes it more strategy based along with a faster combat. The displacement lag is annoying, but wm gives u a bit of room for error if they are too close to u.
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kaozking wrote on 2014-04-21 21:47
I always vowed never to do lance combat simply because of the distance thing. I hate it with a passion and I can't really seem to get used to it. In terms of functionality I would choose SnS but for damage lance dominates. I would love to see a rework of SnS and make in a comback because functionality seems to have been nullified by the various aoe pets we have which makes lance way more stronger than SnS will ever be at this point.
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Tropa wrote on 2014-04-21 21:49
I think SnS deserves this type of buff.
[video=youtube;FB6rPUE9caE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB6rPUE9caE[/video]
As for the poll, I like SnS but... I'd have to go with lances, it's restrictive, but I have fun with it.
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Slayerj wrote on 2014-04-21 21:51
I like to use lances but... I just can't stand it with my crappy net and comp. I can't attack anything half the time. It just ends up with me yelling about the min distance bull crap. I'll stick to 1h and shield!
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kaozking wrote on 2014-04-21 21:51
Quote from Tropa;1216495:
I think SnS deserves this type of buff.
[video=youtube;FB6rPUE9caE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB6rPUE9caE[/video]
For the sake of competing with the other skillsets I also agree
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Syliara wrote on 2014-04-21 21:51
Quote from Tropa;1216495:
I think SnS deserves this type of buff.
[video=youtube;FB6rPUE9caE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB6rPUE9caE[/video]
I would drop every skillset if sword and shield got this type of buff. [S]It will never happen tho ;~;[/S]
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k1nsoo wrote on 2014-04-21 21:52
No two-handed swords? :(
[Image: http://puu.sh/8hT5u]
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Syliara wrote on 2014-04-21 21:52
Quote from k1nsoo;1216500:
No two-handed swords? :(
[Image: http://puu.sh/8hT5u]
Looks like ur about to commit sepukku o3o
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Tropa wrote on 2014-04-21 21:54
Hate to derail the OP but, I'd drop all forms of melee combat if they released Ball and Chains.
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Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-04-21 22:01
Lance > Dream Catcher + Shield > Sword + Shield
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Kelvas wrote on 2014-04-21 23:27
I've tried lance, and it doesn't appeal to me. I'm only ranking lance on my melee character because I already mastered the warrior talent, and the extra str wouldn't hurt. The min distance is incredibly annoying. Lance charge is amazing though.
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Eiryie wrote on 2014-04-22 00:06
As an elf, Eiry can't use lances.
But Eiry tends to see lancers take a lot of damage.