Overrated and Underrated aspects in mabinogi?

• Tropa wrote on 2014-05-15 23:01
  You know, skills, talents, items that get more or less credit then they deserve.
• jimpatrick wrote on 2014-05-15 23:07
  scumbag archery isnt rewarding like everyone claims it to be.
• Yuuki Asuna wrote on 2014-05-15 23:18
  Peaca Abyss is superrrrr overrated and not even fun. The only reason it should be run is for champion/allegory/harmony.
  
  

  Quote from jimpatrick;1220396:

  scumbag archery isnt rewarding like everyone claims it to be.

  
  
  It's fun but yeah, the whole gender-locked gear is really shitty. Hell, I live in California and I can't imagine trying to use this skill set with laggy internet. Kudos to those who endure the miss-induced lag. Aside from that, I would say that range clears shadow-mission and dungeon related content the fastest though perhaps gunner gives it a run for its money.
• Fracture wrote on 2014-05-15 23:33
  Overrated: Elf archery, bone dragon/whatever other summon-effect pets
  
  Underrated: Combat system. Good god I love it and everything about how it works.
• Jake wrote on 2014-05-15 23:35
  ayyy archery argument thread
• Username wrote on 2014-05-15 23:54
  Overrated : Elves and Giants.
  Underrated : You cant under-rate anything in this game.
• Johny wrote on 2014-05-16 00:10

  Quote from Username;1220412:

  Overrated : Elves and Giants.
  Underrated : You cant under-rate anything in this game.

  
  
  Overrated: Puppetry. Just because people find it as the most overpowered talent in the game. Personally I think people can clear things in mabi without it...
  
  Underrated: Thunder. Just yea...people claim that thunder is hardly as useful as fireball or lol ice spear when, in my eyes, it's perhaps the most versatile and dependable magic skill a mage can have...
  
  I'll think of other stuff....but alas let the arguments fly!
• Fracture wrote on 2014-05-16 00:44

  Quote from Johny;1220413:

  Underrated: Thunder. Just yea...people claim that thunder is hardly as useful as fireball or lol ice spear when, in my eyes, it's perhaps the most versatile and dependable magic skill a mage can have...

  
  
  Wait, do people actually underrate Thunder now? Back before I went on hiatus I swear everyone was convinced that if you weren't using CC+4 Firebolt or Thunder, you weren't using magic right.
• Blassreiter wrote on 2014-05-16 01:07
  Overrated : [S]Lances[/S] Enchants
  Underrated : Shields
• NulltheNoFro wrote on 2014-05-16 01:37
  Overrated: Elves & Humans
  Underrated: Giants. Giants ARE SO UNDERRATED. i mean cmon...master race Elves....with their kool archery skills....notice i used a k for cool...thats just how kool they are...
• SlurpTASTY wrote on 2014-05-16 01:46
  ELVES SUCK
• Migek wrote on 2014-05-16 01:54
  overrated: mabination
  underrated: nexon forum
• Invisible wrote on 2014-05-16 02:06
  Giant Gold Spider transformation is underrated. Remember when everyone called Summon Golem overpowered? Well, transforming into a Giant Gold Spider gives you a Windmill radius nearly as large as unnerfed golems, and if you're well invested into melee, you can be bulkier and hit harder than them too!
• Johny wrote on 2014-05-16 04:22

  Quote from Fracture;1220422:

  Wait, do people actually underrate Thunder now? Back before I went on hiatus I swear everyone was convinced that if you weren't using CC+4 Firebolt or Thunder, you weren't using magic right.

  
  
  Back before in G18's "Rebalance" patch, I caught a few posts claiming thunder did "mediocre" damage compared to ice spear or even fireball....
  
  Ok here's the the link on the posts saying thunder is bad:
  http://mabination.com/threads/69464-KR-Test-Advance-Magic-Skills-and-Others/page20
  
  Then again this was back when DevCat was barely revamping maic, and all of us who use magic where on edge cus they were doing a crappy job doing so... I'm just thankful DevCat woke up and fixed magic right. But yea Apparently it wasn't just thunder that got bashed, it was also fireball... But who cares about fireball? Lol.
  
  But either way, I highly disagree with Kaeporo on Thunder being situational...especially now.
• wilson10000 wrote on 2014-05-16 07:35

  Quote from Johny;1220453:

  Back before in G18's "Rebalance" patch, I caught a few posts claiming thunder did "mediocre" damage compared to ice spear or even fireball....
  
  Ok here's the the link on the posts saying thunder is bad:
  http://mabination.com/threads/69464-KR-Test-Advance-Magic-Skills-and-Others/page20
  
  Then again this was back when DevCat was barely revamping maic, and all of us who use magic where on edge cus they were doing a crappy job doing so... I'm just thankful DevCat woke up and fixed magic right. But yea Apparently it wasn't just thunder that got bashed, it was also fireball... But who cares about fireball? Lol.
  
  But either way, I highly disagree with Kaeporo on Thunder being situational...especially now.

  
  
  I personally feel Thunder is rightfully one of the least useful Int spell for the mage. The 500 radius is so small, it should be increased to be like 700 or something. The damage isn't that good either, even 5 charge ice spear can do more damage.
  
  When you compare TH to fireball, fireball is generally more useful because it hits a larger radius. A single high ranked gunner skill does as much damage as a 5 charged Thunder with zero charge and instant load. A single reforged crash shot does the same thing while not being aggroed by the whole pack. A reforged lance WM can hit upwards to +13k.
  
  Unless you can constantly snap cast TH, I don't see it as being better than other skill sets. It's a good opening spell.
  
  I'll be on topic
  Overrated: Close Combat/Swords/Unreforged Lances
  Underrated: Blaze Glove Reforge, Gunner, Rain Cast