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Space Pirate Nithiel wrote on 2014-06-13 20:35
What the above two said about Runescape. It basically has everything Mabinogi lacks. It has tons of content and storyline, you probably couldn't finish all the quests in a year let alone the week it takes to finish Mabi's. The quests and fights don't scale to you in Runescape, so you actually have to advance to be able to do things, you can't just go for it and have it scale to your level like in Mabi, so there's always that feeling of, "If I want to find out how the story ends I need to train more!" so you always have a goal. And then as soon as you DO finish all the quests and content, BAM! New content, right in your lap and despite providing regular content updates they ALSO have plenty of events for the community, so it's not choose between content or events like with Mabi. In Runescape there is just as much high level content as low level content, so you always have something to do, and even if you do manage to max at the game and get everything to 99 and finish all the quests, there are still tons of minigames and stuff you can play until they release something new.
Of course on the other hand, Mabinogi has a far superior combat system.
I'm not sure which of the two skill systems I like better, both simmer down to standing in one place doing X for a while, though in Runescape you can't buy skill levels, so it has that going for it.
Long story short: Mabinogi needs to be more like Runescape.
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bacabro wrote on 2014-06-13 20:57
Quote from Zekkii;1225624:
I've noticed this getting more and more common over the years; less people care about how credible their account is or how much fun they have, and more people are treating Mabinogi like a job in which they're trying to climb a corporate ladder. A lot of people don't seem to care that all of the strongest people are backed by at least 1,000,000 NX in reforges, AOE pets, and rebirth cards. I've seen a lot people close to me feel insecure that they aren't one-shotting mobs as fast as others.
whats credibility when you can post your 999999999 stats with 99999 reforges used.no one gets praised by using mediocre equips.
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Zlatka wrote on 2014-06-14 00:49
"WAAAH I DONT LIKE HOW NEXON RUNS THEIR GAME"
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this whole thread, seriously. i do not agree on nexons pay 2 win mindset but seriously, it's always been this way.
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Aubog007 wrote on 2014-06-14 00:50
Except they are driving it into the ground in a spectacularly dull manner.
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Zekkii wrote on 2014-06-14 01:01
You folks do well to prove my point with your fallacies and taunting, how boring and predictable.
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Twin wrote on 2014-06-14 01:26
Mobs need to be tougher/ smarter /not so allergic to puppet and stun pets,missions need funner objectives with good rewards and not copy and pasted mobs. Need things for players to do together as a community, not just events. every skill set currently out needs a rebalance.PvP (rabbie,alby, EvG. needs to be fixed ,even if some people don't like pvp, some enjoy it) Nexon fix big bugs,and needs to expand its company so people in cali aren't just kinda lagless. change the reforge system to not be totally dependent on nx and random.Oh and more content. Should cover some of many of the issues with Mabi
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Xeno wrote on 2014-06-14 02:09
This forum doesn't need a thread like this. Really, this is a low level for Mabination. I am disappointed. All I see are a bunch of veterans who have played the utter living shit out of this game and are complaining that they don't have anything to do. Welcome to all MMORPGs if you play them enough. This game has far surpassed expectations over it's lifespan, and hopefully it still has G19 and G20 to breath a little life into the game again. If you don't like it, quit. No reason to bring everyone else down with you.
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Chihaya wrote on 2014-06-14 03:29
Xeno makes me laugh. So does all the others who think we're just whining.
Back when Reforges came out, I refused to buy reforges using NX. Several years later, I'm still holding to my word as all the reforges I buy are from other players or events, and all my equipment is pre-forged (also bought from other players) at best.
I don't 1hko monsters: I don't use those "cheap" skills like Lullaby or spam AoE pets, yet I still find this game so boring that I barely reach level 70 every rebirth... which I achieve in approximately 2-3 hours of grinding something mindlessly.
When we "Veterans whine" about the lack of content, you'd better take it exactly as we say it: we're tired of the lack of new content. I play solonogi anyways, so I didn't expect much from the social aspect of Mabinogi, but this is seriously getting ridiculous.
As proof, take my word that I didn't even participate in the first two weeks of the x3 AP Event. I had the choice to, but I didn't. Let's see if I feel bored enough to participate tomorrow.
"Quit if you don't like how Nexon runs the game"?
Ignore this thread if you don't like the arguments presented here.
Same thing guys.
Protip: When advocating against the players who say the content is lacking and the game gets boring, it's probably a good idea to present some good things about the game to falsify them. Otherwise, you're just a passerby with no authority on the topic and blabbing your mouths (or at least your fingers).
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Froglord of DESTINY!!! wrote on 2014-06-14 06:37
Titles are overpowered
Adniel + Meteor master title completely makes DK, and Pally beyond useless.
The only time I trans now is if I'm down to like 200hp, and 100 mp in raids, because those wyverns are fucking dumb.
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Zlatka wrote on 2014-06-14 06:44
Quote from Froglord of DESTINY!!!;1225805:
Titles are overpowered
Adniel + Meteor master title completely makes DK, and Pally beyond useless.
The only time I trans now is if I'm down to like 200hp, and 100 mp in raids, because those wyverns are fucking dumb.
yeah, transformations need to be reworked along with a lot of the older content like egos since the games come such a long way since 2003 or so when it was released. i don't know how to improve these outdated skills but give me like a week and i'll maybe think of something!
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Froglord of DESTINY!!! wrote on 2014-06-14 06:48
Quote from Zlatka;1225808:
yeah, transformations need to be reworked along with a lot of the older content like egos since the games come such a long way since 2003 or so when it was released. i don't know how to improve these outdated skills but give me like a week and i'll maybe think of something!
May nao's breasts be with you!
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Kaeporo wrote on 2014-06-14 14:06
Quote from Froglord of DESTINY!!!;1225805:
Titles are overpowered
Adniel + Meteor master title completely makes DK, and Pally beyond useless.
The only time I trans now is if I'm down to like 200hp, and 100 mp in raids, because those wyverns are fucking dumb.
Transformations are fine barring signature skills which should probably receive an update (alongside nearly every aspect of Mabinogi). Champion is still pretty helpful for mages as I can overkill most enemies without using titles and the massive stamina pool (~2.8k SP) greatly reduces the annoyance of spell walk.
Demi-God needs a fucking rework alongside the spirit weapon renewal. I read up on some notes regarding the ego revamp not long ago but Google won't translate pictures and I can't read Chinese.
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Ninjam wrote on 2014-06-15 01:10
No game can ever be played forever. I am total level 4000 and still love mabinogi because I take frequent breaks that stretch from 1 month up on to a year. At the same time, I am always drawn back because of things that I loved about this game in the first place. The combat is still relatively chalenging and fun for me, at least in higher missions and dungeons, I love the story and the npcs and the dress up game.
Overall I have a pattern of play for a few weeks, get bored and not log in for a month and a half. I learned long ago to forget about such petty things as trying to outdamage everyone and play to have fun, explore content I haven't seen before via updates or just plain neglect, and to play the occassional fun events like the doki doki island one.
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ironwoman wrote on 2014-06-15 01:41
Here's the thing. You don't need overkill reforges or enchants for this content really.
An example would be me. I just hit 5k, my enchants are on the much better side, but my reforges are nowhere near that area. I use very few "overpowering" reforges, most of which I didn't even use NX reforge on. And I can still solo all elite missions fine. I've seen players use much better reforges than me and still pull out less damage, even at higher total.
So a level 5k, clearly not even on the higher side of the game, can solo the "harder" contents of the game. If strong people know what they're doing, they should basically be able to solo just about anything (which they do).
So what's the point of playing then? Like others say, this game is lacking new content, and it's not much different for foreign servers either. What players are looking at now is seeing how much they can extend their limits by. People are going to try to drop kich higher, smash higher, magnum higher, etc. And that's exactly what's going on in foreign servers too.
Would it be nice to have newer content? Perhaps. Do we really need it? I'm not so sure about that part.
New content is something that people want, but like the abyss dungeons showed, people will be able to breeze it through, and try to test their damage limits, and it will most likely stay that way for a long time. Basically new content is what some players want, but not necessarily the game is in terrible need of.
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Space Pirate Nithiel wrote on 2014-06-15 01:55
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