[Mabinogi-JP] Regeneration - Ninjutsu Update (Consolidated and Organized)

• Homucifer wrote on 2014-07-15 13:16

  Quote from Osu;1232339:

  He actually means 80% of the gap between your min and max needs to be capable of 420, provided you have 80 balance.~
  (So if not, that could be xx% between your min and max needs to be capable of 420, xx=whatever your balance is)?

  
  
  Thank you for clearing that up lol.
• Osu wrote on 2014-07-15 13:18

  Quote from Homucifer;1232340:

  Thank you for clearing that up lol.

  
  Sure thing nwn Though how'd that question mark get in there? xD
• epicmiro wrote on 2014-07-15 15:39
  so is there any info yet about elemental reforges on shuriken?
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-07-15 16:15
  160 str just from the skills alone?
  
  I was gonna rank fighter next, but I guess I won't now. STR > WILL
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2014-07-15 16:59
  More str = better gunner. Well better lots of things actually. Too many talents use str >.>
• epicmiro wrote on 2014-07-15 17:41

  Quote from ironwoman;1232355:

  160 str just from the skills alone?
  
  I was gonna rank fighter next, but I guess I won't now. STR > WILL

  
  
  It's actually 174 + 58 (from talent) = 232 str
• KINGZZ wrote on 2014-07-15 18:13

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1232364:

  More str = better gunner. Well better lots of things actually. Too many talents use str >.>

  
  I agree with this gunner should've been the last skill they put str with. The very least it should be over no str + anything (hopefully they don't touch luck). Imo str affects way to much (and this coming from a giant whoa a str fanatic! XD)
• Kapra wrote on 2014-07-15 19:01

  Quote from Homucifer;1232333:

  It may be pretty cheap for people that EVG seeing as it hits 100% of the time. Will definitely see people using this with the keyboard action hotkey that participate in it.

  
  It's still vulnerable to passive evasion from luck.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-07-15 20:53

  Quote from epicmiro;1232366:

  It's actually 174 + 58 (from talent) = 232 str

  
  
  That's why I said skills alone.
  
  This is actually a pretty ridiculous boost, I'm at like 520~ white number at warrior rebirth age 11. This would bump that to almost 700, and I'm still nowhere done near engineering. Real str wise, we're looking at 900 at 1/1. You tell me how you feel about having that much of a base stat that you couldn't before. Not sure if this much str boost was needed. I guess it's time to even out my str and dex now.
• Jake wrote on 2014-07-15 22:19

  Quote from epicmiro;1232351:

  so is there any info yet about elemental reforges on shuriken?

  
  
  All the screenshots/videos that display the shuriken all have shuriken max damage reforge on it, so I assume they are exempt from elements (or the damage reforge is somehow better, but this is unlikely)
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-07-15 23:24
  Does Ground Snare really reduce movement speed? It's the first I'm hearing that.
• KINGZZ wrote on 2014-07-15 23:43

  Quote from ironwoman;1232380:

  That's why I said skills alone.
  
  This is actually a pretty ridiculous boost, I'm at like 520~ white number at warrior rebirth age 11. This would bump that to almost 700, and I'm still nowhere done near engineering. Real str wise, we're looking at 900 at 1/1. You tell me how you feel about having that much of a base stat that you couldn't before. Not sure if this much str boost was needed. I guess it's time to even out my str and dex now.

  
  
  Idk about having 900 base at 1/1 (least i know i can't) and i capped all skills that give str (all need is 5 str from trans collection) but that boost gonna make gunner/lance ridiculous strong and that will to and hp.... ALL THEM STATS!! MUST HIT MY EXCITEMENT OUT :shoe:
• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-07-16 00:11

  The formula for the size of the circle is "300(x*20)" where x is the amount of charges.

  
  
  The formula for the radius of the circle is "300+(x*20)" with a maximum radius of 600 at 15 charges.
  
  There is a reforge that increases the radius of the skill further. The original formula can result in a radius of 90,000 units.
• RegisAreus wrote on 2014-07-16 00:47

  Quote from Kapra;1232320:

  Orient is from the quest chain, Useful is supposedly from the Shadowy Talents Event, and at least one of the rest are from Dungeons. I have no idea where most of these come from or if they're even implemented ingame. I'll try to find out.

  
  Thanks O:
• Rydian wrote on 2014-07-16 01:39

  Quote from Homucifer;1232333:

  So this means you need at least 420 max damage for red to be beneficial with shurikens?

  Even higher (as pointed out). Which is annoying as it rather kills off the point of red anyways (scaling differently than blue but having a moderately-obtainable breaking point).
  
  Though, since they did that... perhaps it's a sign that a lot of ninja skills ignore prot for crit calculation?
  
  

  Quote from ironwoman;1232355:

  160 str just from the skills alone?
  
  I was gonna rank fighter next, but I guess I won't now. STR > WILL

  Hhhng yes. Originally I was all "Oh a new skillset alright I'll play with it a little and see if it's a fun" but then I saw the STR (and then the AP:STR) and now I plan to actually use it.
  
  We should be prepared to see a loooot of ninjas when it comes out.