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RegisAreus wrote on 2014-07-17 01:15
I just notice, but elves shouldn't be complaining. If mabinogi keeps going down this path, won't there be lots of other classes? Yea, elves don't have much that benefit them now or a class really good for them, but if they keep making hybrid stat classes, I'm sure elves will get it eventually. O: And I'm prolly not making sense xD.
X=Already used hybrid stat combination
Str+Dex=Puppetry Dex+Str=Puppetry Int+Str=Gunner Wil+Str=Ninja
Str+Int=Gunner Dex+Int=New Class Int+Dex=X Will+Dex=X
Str+Will=Ninja Dex+Will=New Class Int+Will=New Class Will+Int=X
Str+Luk=New Class Dex+Luk=New Class Int+Luk=New Class Will+Luk=New class
Stats(Str/Dex/Wil/Int/Luk)+Mana/Hp/Stam=New Class
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RegisAreus wrote on 2014-07-17 01:21
I just notice, but elves shouldn't be complaining. If mabinogi keeps going down this path, won't there be lots of other classes? Yea, elves don't have much that benefit them now or a class really good for them, but if they keep making hybrid stat classes, I'm sure elves will get it eventually. O: And I'm prolly not making sense xD.
X=Already used hybrid stat combination
Str+Dex=Puppetry
Str+Int=Gunner
Str+Will=Ninja
Str+Luk=New Class
Dex+Str=Puppetry
Dex+Int=New Class
Dex+Will=New Class
Dex+Luk New Class
Int+Str=Gunner
Int+Dex=X
Int+Will=New Class
Int+Luk=New Class
Wil+Str=Ninja
Wil+Dex=X
Wil+Int=X
Wil+Luk=New Class
(Str/Dex/Wil/Int/Luk)+Mana/Hp/Stam=New Class
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Lunamaniac wrote on 2014-07-17 01:28
Quote from RegisAreus;1232651:
Dex+Int=New Class
I'm waiting for this.
A lot.
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Kapra wrote on 2014-07-17 02:04
Quote from RegisAreus;1232651:
I just notice, but elves shouldn't be complaining. If mabinogi keeps going down this path, won't there be lots of other classes? Yea, elves don't have much that benefit them now or a class really good for them, but if they keep making hybrid stat classes, I'm sure elves will get it eventually. O: And I'm prolly not making sense xD.
X=Already used hybrid stat combination
Str+Dex=Puppetry
Str+Int=Gunner
Str+Will=Ninja
Str+Luk=New Class
Dex+Str=Puppetry
Dex+Int=New Class
Dex+Will=New Class
Dex+Luk New Class
Int+Str=Gunner
Int+Dex=X
Int+Will=New Class
Int+Luk=New Class
Wil+Str=Ninja
Wil+Dex=X
Wil+Int=X
Wil+Luk=New Class
(Str/Dex/Wil/Int/Luk)+Mana/Hp/Stam=New Class
Even with a Dex+Int class (Dex and Int being Elves' two highest stats) they'd be better than humans by a margin of like 20~30int/dex. The only thing that will save Elves is either making the Str+Will gap be 20~30, give Elves a bunch of more Int/Dex that other races can't get for doing the same things, or increasing Elven multipliers for almost all skills in some skillsets like Archery and Magic. (When I say gap here, I am comparing a Human and an Elf. The Elf-Giant gap is fine as it is. But there are almost no advantages and plenty of disadvantages of picking an Elf instead of a Human. That REALLY sucks for people like me who have been playing Elves for years, before most of the disadvantages existed or were of this huge magnitude.)
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KINGZZ wrote on 2014-07-17 02:51
Quote from Zekkii;1232605:
Well let's be a bit more specific. I'm referring to the following, whether they be intentional or not (no order):
-Lances have greatly improved piercing
-Defense is generated from Strength whereas other stats get boosts such as Defense Piercing, Magic Defense, and Magic Protection which are less beneficial
-Vales Shield becomes the only large shield, and giants may now use defense with it to reduce all damages to 1
-Guns make Strength the only stat that scales for 3 skillsets
-Ninja makes Stength the only stat that scales for 4 skillsets
-Catering is released and provides the most damage boost to lancers/strength scaling stats; Dex, Int, HP/SP/MP push the 1500 cap and don't scale as well
-Ninja provides a massive amount of Strength
Question about that is that a glitch with the Vales shield reducing all damage to 1 or is just how much def/prot get from defense with the large shield?
Quote from KingFintchz;1232566:
R.I.P Other races...
Long live the Giants!
Never finished carpentry (don't plan on doing it) this'll be a great way to make up for it.
In other words: I'm all for Giant Favoritism~
We use to be the weakest race dw there's gonna be elf favoritism sooner or later then humans/giants will qq the cycle will go on!
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KINGZZ wrote on 2014-07-17 02:53
Quote from KingFintchz;1232566:
R.I.P Other races...
Long live the Giants!
Never finished carpentry (don't plan on doing it) this'll be a great way to make up for it.
In other words: I'm all for Giant Favoritism~
We use to be the weakest race dw there's gonna be elf favoritism sooner or later then humans/giants will qq the cycle will go on!
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RegisAreus wrote on 2014-07-17 03:09
I play elf O:
I hope dex+int will be something like magick archer xD like the one from dragon dogma.
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Zekkii wrote on 2014-07-17 03:29
Quote from KINGZZ;1232670:
Question about that is that a glitch with the Vales shield reducing all damage to 1 or is just how much def/prot get from defense with the large shield?
Is it a glitch? Well it's certainly possible, but it seems unlikely to me. You'd need some sort of direct contact with devCAT to know for sure.
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Kapra wrote on 2014-07-17 03:30
Quote from KINGZZ;1232670:
Question about that is that a glitch with the Vales shield reducing all damage to 1 or is just how much def/prot get from defense with the large shield?
Using the Defense skill with a Vales Shield literally reduces all damage to 1, it wasn't an exaggeration.
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Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-07-17 03:50
Quote from Zekkii;1232679:
Is it a glitch? Well it's certainly possible, but it seems unlikely to me. You'd need some sort of direct contact with devCAT to know for sure.
I've heard its a glitch somewhere on mabination.
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Robinhood wrote on 2014-07-17 04:54
If I missed it somewhere please let me know. What is the amount of str or will required to get 1 max with shuriken?
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Jake wrote on 2014-07-17 05:31
Quote from Robinhood;1232698:
If I missed it somewhere please let me know. What is the amount of str or will required to get 1 max with shuriken?
4
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Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-07-17 06:19
Quote from Robinhood;1232698:
If I missed it somewhere please let me know. What is the amount of str or will required to get 1 max with shuriken?
4 str/will = 1 max, 5 str/will = 1 min.
Also you haven't missed it; Kapra forgot to mention it.
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Kapra wrote on 2014-07-17 07:03
Oh thought I added that in already, fixed*.
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KINGZZ wrote on 2014-07-17 13:38
Quote from RegisAreus;1232677:
I play elf O:
I hope dex+int will be something like magick archer xD like the one from dragon dogma.
That would make me jelly. I can even see necromancer in the future (btw love dragons dogma amazing rpg ;D)