[Mabinogi KR-LIVE] Chapter 6 Generation 19: The Divine Knights package content

• Elleanior wrote on 2014-08-31 01:21

  Quote from Qnjo;1243921:

  Also, Nexon NA might just change the name altogether for no reason (Ysolte) or mess up the translation (Anju).

  
  
  Apparently "Anju" is easier to say than "Anzu". Ysolte's name was probably changed to be a little more "closer to home", because most of Mabinogi's names are of European origin.
  [SIZE="1"]Fun fact: Anzu means "Apricot". I think that all 3 of those sound equally cute, though.[/SIZE]
  
  The resemblance of the two trios are a cute "coincidence", but unless the devs state otherwise, it's nothing more than that.
  
  I hope that that last duo Girgashiy fight gets a bit of nerfing before it comes to NA.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-08-31 01:26

  Quote from Elleanior;1243923:

  Apparently "Anju" is easier to say than "Anzu". Ysolte's name was probably changed to be a little more "closer to home", because most of Mabinogi's names are of European origin.

  
  
  "Anju" sounds more weird than "Anzu", at least to me. What as Ysolte's name in JP? Yuri?
• Daakun wrote on 2014-08-31 03:19

  Quote from Darkboy132;1243926:

  What was Ysolte's name in JP? Yuri?

  
  
  That would explain everything.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-08-31 03:25

  Quote from Daakun;1243963:

  That would explain everything.

  
  
  I don't get it... o-o
• Tyskiyomy wrote on 2014-08-31 03:27

  Quote from Qnjo;1243921:

  Also, Nexon NA might just change the name altogether for no reason (Ysolte) or mess up the translation (Anju).

  
  He shall be Giggyshaggy
• Mystickskye wrote on 2014-08-31 03:59

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1243915:

  It's one of the possible translations for it's Korean name. But no, his english name isn't mentioned anywhere. Other possible translation is Girgashiy based on the mp3 file the theme in the final mission of G19 plays.

  Um... no it's not. The Korean plainly says Gireugashee. Girgashe is a possibly translation yes but there's no "Ga" in it anywhere.

  Quote from Darkboy132;1243926:

  "Anju" sounds more weird than "Anzu", at least to me. What as Ysolte's name in JP? Yuri?

  I've told you before that it's Yuki, both names have to do with ice depending on your source.

  Quote from Qnjo;1243921:

  Also, Nexon NA might just change the name altogether for no reason (Ysolte) or mess up the translation (Anju).

  J in place of Z is actually an accepted romanisation for the character. Similarly there are some words that use n but are romanised with m like "tempura" or the less commonly seen "sempai".
• Elleanior wrote on 2014-08-31 07:42

  Quote from Mystickskye;1243976:

  Um... no it's not. The Korean plainly says Gireugashee. Girgashe is a possibly translation yes but there's no "Ga" in it anywhere.

  
  Romanisation is fun. I like Girgashiy best.
  Seems there's a ga regardless btw.
  
  

  Quote from Mystickskye;1243976:

  I've told you before that it's Yuki, both names have to do with ice depending on your source.

  
  Yūki (Japanese) = meaning depends on the kanji used. Most common is (雪) "snow", but another is (幸) "happiness".
  Ysolte (Welsh) = "beautiful"
  Ysolte (German) = "rules over ice"
  
  

  Quote from Mystickskye;1243976:

  J in place of Z is actually an accepted romanisation for the character. Similarly there are some words that use n but are romanised with m like "tempura" or the less commonly seen "sempai".

  
  Basically they can be used interchangeably due to slurs that could easily incorporate the other.
• Mystickskye wrote on 2014-08-31 08:56
  Lol I was meaning the first syllable and words got away on me.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2014-08-31 10:32

  Quote from Mystickskye;1243976:

  Um... no it's not. The Korean plainly says Gireugashee. Girgashe is a possibly translation yes but there's no "Ga" in it anywhere

  
  
  Ironwoman, and couple other Korean translators have translated it as Gargash. You think actual koreans who play are incorrect? I highly doubt ironwoman would be incorrect as she is usually very good with translating korean stuff for our team. If you think you can translate better, prove it me.
• Mystickskye wrote on 2014-08-31 12:34
  A: I am Korean, born to Korean parents who were born in Korea, raised speaking and reading Korean until I went off to school. Let me know if this isn't "actual Korean" enough for you.
  B: Your own sound file through your own admission says Gir and not Gar.
  C: Using screenshots of content attained through yourself, some others and gameabout;
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/aGS8h/fd82f2daf3.png]

  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bfkwk/4ca05a1eea.jpg]

  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bfkCR/0c753df92a.jpg]

  
  Let's focus on where his name shows up:
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bfkG8/d34e11364c.jpg]

  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bfkOT/d9475730c8.png]

  
  Or in direct characters, 기루가쉬.
  The observant will note that the vowel characters in the first and third sets/syllables are different. Well that's great, how about some reference?
  

  [Image: http://www.ancientscripts.com/images/hangul_v.gif]

  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bfl0T/07142f7d0d.png]

  
  With this handy dandy table you too can romanise Korean.
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bfl9U/443c9b6cda.png]

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bflbJ/175f106684.png]

  
  These two are the typical "a" in Korean, alike to the a in "spa".
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bflhp/873715ad12.png]

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bfliN/10a1cd3eef.png]

  
  This is the other "a" sound in Korean, the pronunciation of this one is more like that in "bat", "happy" or according to wiki, the e in "bella" if you're Spanish.
  
  The observant will see that the latter character isn't present at all in the name though the former character is present in the third set/syllable. So that's definitely a "ga".
  
  What we're after is this:
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bflPs/2e52a1f66e.png]

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bflSg/4bb9d06c97.png]

  
  Like it says on the label, this is the "i" sound in Korean, like the y sound at the end of words like "bunny" or the ee in "free". Using ocular magic we can see that this is in fact the character that is paired with the "g" in the first syllable of the boss' name.
  
  While I'm at it, let's go the whole hog and look up how to romanise the entire name:
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bfmdd/bd6865b959.png]

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bfmeu/037acc9d7f.png]

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bfmgf/bed522f024.png]

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bfmhS/c7d20c5de6.png]

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bfmdd/bd6865b959.png]

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bfmjv/f3eea5858d.png]

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bfmkC/d9e43af56d.png]

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bfmlC/03db96a75f.png]

  
  So let's see, gireugashi? Wow it's almost like I can fluently transliterate Korean or something.
  
  EDIT: Bonus, his name in Japanese is ギルガシ. I'm sure Nation has enough Japanophiles that I don't need to transliterate this too.
• Tyskiyomy wrote on 2014-08-31 13:09

  Quote from Mystickskye;1244036:

  gireugashi

  
  
  His name sounds cute, I like this...
• Qnjo wrote on 2014-08-31 13:15

  Quote from Mystickskye;1243976:

  J in place of Z is actually an accepted romanisation for the character.

  
  That depends. For じ and ぢ (both sound exactly the same in japanese) and vowels derived from these two, different romanization systems use either z, j or d. When it comes to づ - it's usually transcribed as "zu", with Nihon-shiki system being the only exception ("du").
  To spice things up even further, Anzu's name has ず in it (written in katakana as ズ), which is "zu" in all major romanizations universally.
  In other words, I still think that "Anju" was a mistake. And sorry for this very nerdy post.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2014-08-31 16:32

  Quote from Mystickskye;1244036:

  you made your point

  
  
  Gargash is still easier for me to remember and spell. NA will probably rename it to w/e anyways. Or rename it so it's easier for English players to say and spell. Gargash works better for that purpose so I'll just stick with that and agree to disagree on the matter rather than escalate it.
  
  A lot of korean names don't translate to English very well to begin with anyways.
• Mystickskye wrote on 2014-08-31 16:51
  Girgash. Sohard.
• Tetosan wrote on 2014-08-31 16:51

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1244078:

  Gargash is still easier for me to remember and spell. NA will probably rename it to w/e anyways. Or rename it so it's easier for English players to say and spell. Gargash works better for that purpose so I'll just stick with that and agree to disagree on the matter rather than escalate it.
  
  A lot of korean names don't translate to English very well to begin with anyways.

  
  
  ^
  
  This because seriously...
  
  Bhafel's Korean name is Bhafelsepaer and Languiris is Leangirith
  
  Both were changed in NA so it's not really needed to be so stubborn about it, whatever floats your Goat but deal with it that we use Gargash as it's Easier than Girgashiy or whatever
  
  Also if you don't like it get your Foreign Info yourself kay? I'm sick of you guys having to correct every little mistake we make as if we totally fake the info.