What is the real benefit of Yui

• Invisible wrote on 2014-08-23 20:45

  Quote from Rydian;1242498:

  I bet if any of you had to do Baol infiltration you'd change your damn minds in a hurry. :P

  
  
  You would lose that bet, because when we had the C1 renewal, I completely destroyed all the infiltration monsters. In fact, I solo'ed all of C1 naked and barehanded after the renewal, including Baol Final.
  
  I will admit that Yui has some niche uses, but those uses don't justify the amount of gold one needs to pay for a Yui.
• Rydian wrote on 2014-08-23 21:56
  When I finally did my G3 (well after Genesis) those monsters were still pretty deadly to me. Took me 2-3 attempts to finish that dungeon.
• Kenero wrote on 2014-08-23 22:09
  Not a bad item accessory wise.
  
  Avenger Accessories or Fierce ribbons are still incredibly rare, at least obtaining one in Mari, as someone selling them is as rare as a blue moon.
  
  However it can't be reforged, so it's somewhat so-so, but the benefit is that if you don't intend to reforge, it gives more benefits than a common accessory that isn't reforged/avenger/fierce and it's not a bad option.
• Yanm wrote on 2014-08-23 22:30

  Quote from Rydian;1242498:

  I bet if any of you had to do Baol infiltration you'd change your damn minds in a hurry. :P

  
  
  Nope. That would just make it too easy (It's not that hard anymore), and would take away a little bit of fun for me. This includes even on a new character.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-08-24 01:51

  Quote from Rydian;1242498:

  I bet if any of you had to do Baol infiltration you'd change your damn minds in a hurry. :P

  
  
  Here are two options for me.
  
  1. Just windmill everything, they'll die.
  
  2. Or summon my horses, Pegasus, and food truck.
  
  If I were a player with less than 200 total level and have no pet, then yes that would be the case, but I also highly doubt that player will have a Yui.
• Rydian wrote on 2014-08-26 19:44
  Not everybody is a min-maxer, I was total 600 or so doing G3 and still had issues, as did the other people running it around the same time as me.
  
  Jesus christ you people really.
• Syliara wrote on 2014-08-26 20:16

  Quote from Rydian;1243014:

  Not everybody is a min-maxer, I was total 600 or so doing G3 and still had issues, as did the other people running it around the same time as me.
  
  Jesus christ you people really.

  
  
  Not sure when you ran it, but the money spent on that yui u could have made a set a level 100 could use to clear baol pretty easily at this point in the game. I mean Shadow Hunter Spike Focused Rainbow Beam Swords thats 400 max right there, and a gacha dustin if your human or something else if your giant. Elves have hide anyways so they shouldnt really have any issues. In the end clearing baol at this point in the game is pretty easy if you know where to spend your money instead of spending it on some trinket that is horribly overpriced.
• Rydian wrote on 2014-08-26 22:16

  Quote from Nui;1243021:

  Not sure when you ran it, but the money spent on that yui u could have made a set a level 100 could use to clear baol pretty easily at this point in the game. I mean Shadow Hunter Spike Focused Rainbow Beam Swords thats 400 max right there, and a gacha dustin if your human or something else if your giant. Elves have hide anyways so they shouldnt really have any issues. In the end clearing baol at this point in the game is pretty easy if you know where to spend your money instead of spending it on some trinket that is horribly overpriced.

  I see newbies get good stuff out of gachas once in a while. As in they wouldn't need end-game money to have access to one.
  
  And for newbies, knowing the dungeon orb could be helpful in baol infiltration, and also general dungeon running.
  
  Seriously not everything in the game needs to cater to min-maxing jaded multi-year players.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-08-26 22:25

  Quote from Rydian;1243039:

  I see newbies get good stuff out of gachas once in a while. As in they wouldn't need end-game money to have access to one.
  
  And for newbies, knowing the dungeon orb could be helpful in baol infiltration, and also general dungeon running.
  
  Seriously not everything in the game needs to cater to min-maxing jaded multi-year players.

  
  
  Gambling with real money is now a suitable substitute to actually learning how to play.
• Syliara wrote on 2014-08-27 00:31

  Quote from Rydian;1243039:

  I see newbies get good stuff out of gachas once in a while. As in they wouldn't need end-game money to have access to one.
  
  And for newbies, knowing the dungeon orb could be helpful in baol infiltration, and also general dungeon running.
  
  Seriously not everything in the game needs to cater to min-maxing jaded multi-year players.

  
  
  Or instead they could sell that yui and use that money on the things I mentioned. It would be much more useful to get better gear than to keep that yui for its uses. If they want it for fashion then w/e thats their decision but theres other things that money could be used for than on a trinket like that.
  
  And its pretty obvious that almost nothing caters towards "min-maxing jaded multi-year players" considering how many things have been added specifically for new players lately and all the gear that has been added to gachas for players that could use that extra boost in power. About the only thing that is catering towards older players on the horizon that I can see at the moment is the raid system and something like that has been long overdue for a while due to the lack of any decently difficult content for players that have been craving it.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-08-27 01:13
  Keep in mind that gears are ridiculously easy to come by. You can get a whole body set that can give you 100 max damage in under 2 mil. That's significantly lower than how it used to be few years ago.
  
  That being said, a player with a Yui could easily get money to get damage AND reforge, just by selling it. And Rydian, you can't just be keep using min-maxing excuse bullshit. Here's the reality. Remember when there was no talent, reforges, and high damage enchants? I was total 700-800 at the time, not much higher level than when you tried to do Baol, and I really can't say that it was difficult, although not necessarily easy. New players have ridiculous potential to get good gears, and as for you, Rydian, when there was a thread about ninja damage, I remember you putting up your screen, with 0 proper gear. Most people in this game have at least partial gear. You represent the minority of this game, you can't keep going on with blaming "min-maxing" players, nor just try to be beginner friendly, they have too much of that shit anyway.
• Rydian wrote on 2014-08-27 10:47

  Quote from Kaeporo;1243042:

  Gambling with real money is now a suitable substitute to actually learning how to play.

  Really, there's some trick to knowing which dungeon orb is the right one at a glance and people can learn this trick instead of getting a Yui?
  
  Do tell me more, because I'd love to have this ability without accessory repair costs.
  
  

  Quote from Nui;1243070:

  And its pretty obvious that almost nothing caters towards "min-maxing jaded multi-year players" considering how many things have been added specifically for new players lately and all the gear that has been added to gachas for players that could use that extra boost in power. About the only thing that is catering towards older players on the horizon that I can see at the moment is the raid system and something like that has been long overdue for a while due to the lack of any decently difficult content for players that have been craving it.

  That's part of the reason why I'm finding high-level players calling new stuff useless and wondering why it exists and why people use it to be so confusing.
  
  

  Quote from ironwoman;1243087:

  Keep in mind that gears are ridiculously easy to come by. You can get a whole body set that can give you 100 max damage in under 2 mil. That's significantly lower than how it used to be few years ago.

  You know, I gave a newer player 150K today. It was the most gold they've ever seen.
  
  

  Quote from ironwoman;1243087:

  That being said, a player with a Yui could easily get money to get damage AND reforge, just by selling it. And Rydian, you can't just be keep using min-maxing excuse bullshit. Here's the reality. Remember when there was no talent, reforges, and high damage enchants? I was total 700-800 at the time, not much higher level than when you tried to do Baol, and I really can't say that it was difficult, although not necessarily easy. New players have ridiculous potential to get good gears, and as for you, Rydian, when there was a thread about ninja damage, I remember you putting up your screen, with 0 proper gear. Most people in this game have at least partial gear. You represent the minority of this game, you can't keep going on with blaming "min-maxing" players, nor just try to be beginner friendly, they have too much of that shit anyway.

  You and many others on Mabination are so jaded and spend so much time here in the company of others like you that you don't realize that you're in the minority IN MABINOGI. You're in the majority here, but in-game you're an elite group.
  
  Seriously, do I need to go around recording CP levels of everybody I see and asking people how much of the game they've done and how much gold they have, and should I go make some damn bar graphs and pie charts of how many players I encounter that can beat certain-level missions or something to point it out to you all?
  
  [s]I am seriously considering doing this because you are so jaded it would probably take something like that for you to realize that most active players are not nearly as strong as you all. Mabination is not Mabinogi. Mabination is a subset of players, most of them the more experienced and longer-played kind.[/s]
  
  You know what? That'd actually be an interesting project. I only have characters and pets on Ruairi right now, so if people actually do take interest in this I'm willing to head a little project for gathering info from Mabinogi players. I can spend some time thinking about what data to ask about and how, then I can make some Google docs with some basic instructions and survey questions to ask people and what data to record for others that help out, and make a spreadsheet for saving the info online (minus usernames of course) that can be exported and worked on for making graphs and such when it comes time to display the results.
• imagine95 wrote on 2014-08-27 15:32

  Quote from Rydian;1243165:

  
  You know, I gave a newer player 150K today. It was the most gold they've ever seen.
  

  
  You know, just doing all of the daily missions can get you somewhere from 50~100k. 150k might be a lot of money for a very small group of people. But I'm sure most people should have at least a few million of gold or the equivalent value of items.
• Adrianblade wrote on 2014-08-27 16:35
  Yui is a waste of money unless you care for fashion.
  
  But!
  
  New players can get something much more efficient from selling that Yui such as max damage gear.
  
  And!
  
  Yui is not an item new players can even easily get unless they are very lucky.
  
  Also!
  
  If a "new player" somehow got their hand on a Yui without using the gacha...I'm gonna have to say that anyone who could make at least 10mil isn't "new".
  
  Therefore?
  
  Yui dolls are pointless and serve as a status symbol.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-08-27 16:37

  Quote from Rydian;1243165:

  Really, there's some trick to knowing which dungeon orb is the right one at a glance and people can learn this trick instead of getting a Yui?
  
  Do tell me more, because I'd love to have this ability without accessory repair costs.
  
  That's part of the reason why I'm finding high-level players calling new stuff useless and wondering why it exists and why people use it to be so confusing.
  
  You know, I gave a newer player 150K today. It was the most gold they've ever seen.
  
  You and many others on Mabination are so jaded and spend so much time here in the company of others like you that you don't realize that you're in the minority IN MABINOGI. You're in the majority here, but in-game you're an elite group.
  
  Seriously, do I need to go around recording CP levels of everybody I see and asking people how much of the game they've done and how much gold they have, and should I go make some damn bar graphs and pie charts of how many players I encounter that can beat certain-level missions or something to point it out to you all?
  
  [s]I am seriously considering doing this because you are so jaded it would probably take something like that for you to realize that most active players are not nearly as strong as you all. Mabination is not Mabinogi. Mabination is a subset of players, most of them the more experienced and longer-played kind.[/s]
  
  You know what? That'd actually be an interesting project. I only have characters and pets on Ruairi right now, so if people actually do take interest in this I'm willing to head a little project for gathering info from Mabinogi players. I can spend some time thinking about what data to ask about and how, then I can make some Google docs with some basic instructions and survey questions to ask people and what data to record for others that help out, and make a spreadsheet for saving the info online (minus usernames of course) that can be exported and worked on for making graphs and such when it comes time to display the results.

  
  
  ...and you say that we're jaded.
  
  This is hilarious.