What is the real benefit of Yui

• Kelvas wrote on 2014-08-28 21:09

  Quote from JasonHero;1243518:

  I got my yui from gacha, but i wouldnt be willing to ever sell it cause i like the extra convenience. The orb finding in sm could save me lots of time and frustration and demi exp. I'd much rather keep the yui than have the 20 mill i could get if i sold it. Although thats just me, since i got 2 yuis from gacha and i'm selling 1 of them so i already have enough money for a while.

  
  [UB]
  I see. I agree it's useful, but if it can sell for 15M+, I would sell it in a heartbeat and buy reforges/save up for rosemary/make a step 6 hermit with the amount I make. I'm using enchanted purple hearts in my accessory slots anyways. [/UB]
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2014-08-28 21:58

  Quote from Kaeporo;1243478:

  I'm not calling people who run dungeons "nobodies" because nobody runs dungeons.

  
  
  I am pretty sure some people still run those daily Tara Castle dungeons. They do have the orbs in them.
  
  That is not the same as saying Yui is useful for its cost. I want a Yui too, not for its usefulness but because it is newest fashion trend.
  
  Then again, I am a player who is capped all skills with tons of extra AP floating around waiting for the next skill update.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2014-08-28 21:58

  Quote from Kaeporo;1243478:

  I'm not calling people who run dungeons "nobodies" because nobody runs dungeons.

  
  
  I am pretty sure some people still run those daily Tara Castle dungeons. They do have the orbs in them.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-08-28 23:36

  Quote from Qnjo;1243466:

  Not sure whether you're calling people who run dungeons "nobodies" or purposely ignoring them, but either way it's pretty damn rude.

  
  
  Neither. He's saying that almost no one dungeons regularly to make Yui somewhat useful.
• Rydian wrote on 2014-08-29 09:35

  Quote from ironwoman;1243403:

  And Equivalent pointed out the problem exactly.
  
  These things are not worth 30 mil considering the function, it's for fashion purposes. Therefore, the real benefit of Yui is status/fashion symbol, nothing else. If figuring out an orb should cost 30 mil, then I guess elemental weapons should cost 70 mil+.
  
  And you really want to do the survey? I can tell you that the significant population of Mabinogi has most of their items at least enchanted, and doesn't even have to be at end-game level. You really think we've all not been there?
  
  Being nice to beginners is good and all, but at this stage of the game, you're just being way too sympathetic. You can't make excuses for what these beginners lack or what you might lack. A little research and more effort could improve people's gears by a lot. Let's take your gears for example. You can easily buy a sight item for around 100k easily, and slap it on your armor. No need to go through hassle for R9. And for these R9 enchants, I can think of easy rA enchants already, like Color, Hamster, etc. Your gloves? The expansive pricing just got to the bottom of the market, like 150k for an item. And you can easily hunt fleet for shoes. Or if you don't like hassle like that, you can get easy enchants like strider, fox, camo, etc. Acquiring this sort of information can literally be done in 10 minutes search by typing in "Damage modifiers" in the wiki search bar.

  See, here's the thing.
  
  I'm not saying that Yui is the best thing ever, or that it's a great investment.
  
  I'm saying that it's not useless. The thread is asking for the benefits, and it has benefits and (despite what some people are saying) is not useless.
  
  Outclassed in investment != useless.
  
  

  Quote from Kaeporo;1243439:

  It allows the use of the Yui Strike action.
  - Garbage that's easily outclassed by pets or even newbie player skills.
  
  Reveals dungeon pathways and rooms on the minimap.
  - Nobody runs dungeons; while this could save some time, demi-god provides the same effect. The use of demi-god isn't applicable to beginners, who shouldn't be spending 30m gold or spamming gacha for a CP Yui. Go ahead and do your stat tracking so you can support your argument that newbies don't have a million gold to spend on equipment but do have 30m gold to spend on a Yui.
  
  Reveals the correct switch in dungeon switch rooms via a sparkling effect on the orb.
  - Nobody runs dungeons
  
  Reveals the location of monsters and switches over a vast area in Shadow Missions on the minimap.
  -Time saved by this is paltry compared to the speed gained throwing character development. Use is limited to either grouping or avoiding mobs. The former is outclassed by several other options, to include Saga EP4.
  
  Can randomly cast a Magic Shield over the user.
  -Totally useless due to it being completely random.
  
  I'm waiting for someone to argue that 222 broad swords are meta.

  Really? Well how are people ranking up Composing, Rest, First Aid, Meditation, and other such skills that need items that drop from dungeon end chests? How are people getting Thunder on existing characters when page 4 only drops from dungeon bosses? How are people running their generation quests without doing dungeons when so many of them need you to run dungeons, even later ones like G14 and G18?
  
  It's okay to have opinions, but saying that nobody runs dungeons anymore is a straight-up lie. This is just one example of why I think I need to start a player survey, because so many people here on Mabination seem to be deluded like this.
  
  "I don't do it so nobody does it"? The Dungeon Capture SAO event didn't get dungeons to Zones 5 and 6 from people NOT running them. :P
  
  

  Quote from ironwoman;1243547:

  Neither. He's saying that almost no one dungeons regularly to make Yui somewhat useful.

  I don't run dungeons that much anymore, but that's because I don't need any dungeon drops for skill training myself (yes, I finally got the hellhound skull like a month ago).
  
  However for most of my Mabi career I would run dungeons every so often, sometimes running them repeatedly with people if a dungeon dropped something that multiple people in my group needed. Like spamming Karu 7x10^40 times because it drops three skill books and multiple people needed a copy of each.
  
  If I had a Yui a year ago, it'd have made running many dungeons over and over for book/item drops faster and less of a hassle. Though if Yui wasn't an anime crossover item it'd probably be more affordable too.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-08-29 14:48

  Quote from Rydian;1243650:

  Things.

  
  
  
  You're still not getting it. We're saying that the real benefit of Yui is for the fashion purpose. Not necessarily a bad thing. Whether it being fashion symbol is worth over 20 mil to you or not is up to you.
  
  However, I will say this: for dungeon's sake, I still would say Yui's function is not worth over 20 mil. I've ran countless dungeons, and yes, while Yui could have helped, it wouldn't have helped by a lot. I know some players will be spamming certain dungeons, such as Karu for books, Peaca Int for Steel Needle, etc. However, I'd say that Yui helps only by a little bit that you can practically live without it. If people are getting it for fashion, not gonna stop them, they can do whatever the fuck they want.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2014-08-29 14:52

  Quote from Rydian;1243650:

  
  Really? Well how are people ranking up Composing, Rest, First Aid, Meditation, and other such skills that need items that drop from dungeon end chests? How are people getting Thunder on existing characters when page 4 only drops from dungeon bosses? How are people running their generation quests without doing dungeons when so many of them need you to run dungeons, even later ones like G14 and G18?

  
  
  I hate running those dungeons. I just buy each of those items at pretty high prices. The RNG for a lot of those items are pretty low, and passes could get pretty rare.
  
  With Yui, how much seconds are you saving in those orb rooms? You go by yourself, and hit all the orbs, and skip the monsters.
  
  In some servers, Zone tickets are actually pretty rare because not a lot of people actually run the boring dungeon. Only in Alexina do you actually see Zone tickets being sold on housing.
  
  It probably is a good investment if you get one cheap, and then sell it at a very high price after a great deal of time later.
• BecomeMeguca wrote on 2014-08-29 18:40
  People spend money on Yui because she's a fashion item. Assuming Yui was an normal accessory item (such as devcat brooch) with the same stats and functions, I highly doubt it would pass even 5 m.
• SUNFLARE wrote on 2014-08-29 18:56
  It shows where ice mines are which i god dam hate and someones i like hitting the wrong ors in dungeons/Sms for more mobs/exp and showing where shadow orbs is very useful for me now if she could be reforge and had more dura shed be more useful for me :I
• Rydian wrote on 2014-08-30 01:13

  Quote from ironwoman;1243674:

  You're still not getting it. We're saying that the real benefit of Yui is for the fashion purpose. Not necessarily a bad thing. Whether it being fashion symbol is worth over 20 mil to you or not is up to you.

  You all are straight-up factually incorrect in that saying the only benefit is fashion. The item has multiple abilities, most of which are helpful (replacing the imp's commerce chat is unhelpful, but nobody brought that up because nobody would argue against it anyways), some of which are only duplicated by other very rare items, and one of which is not duplicated by anything else in the game.
  
  Just because something would not help you personally in what you do daily in the game does not mean that the item is useless. You seeing a benefit as not worth your time does not mean that the benefit does not exist.
  
  

  Quote from ironwoman;1243674:

  However, I will say this: for dungeon's sake, I still would say Yui's function is not worth over 20 mil. I've ran countless dungeons, and yes, while Yui could have helped, it wouldn't have helped by a lot. I know some players will be spamming certain dungeons, such as Karu for books, Peaca Int for Steel Needle, etc. However, I'd say that Yui helps only by a little bit that you can practically live without it. If people are getting it for fashion, not gonna stop them, they can do whatever the fuck they want.

  Somebody in another thread mentioned using Yui to find all the wrong orbs in order to more easily gather notably-large groups of monsters for specific skill training (gun stuff, sakura abyss, etc.) which I think is a nice use for it too.
  
  

  Quote from EndlessDreams;1243676:

  I hate running those dungeons. I just buy each of those items at pretty high prices. The RNG for a lot of those items are pretty low, and passes could get pretty rare.
  
  With Yui, how much seconds are you saving in those orb rooms? You go by yourself, and hit all the orbs, and skip the monsters.
  
  In some servers, Zone tickets are actually pretty rare because not a lot of people actually run the boring dungeon. Only in Alexina do you actually see Zone tickets being sold on housing.
  
  It probably is a good investment if you get one cheap, and then sell it at a very high price after a great deal of time later.

  There have been one or two few skill books I bought because I figured it would cost me less time to make the gold back than it would to run the dungeons.
  
  But some of those skill books only existed for me to buy because other people ran the dungeons.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-08-31 02:13
  What's the title of the thread? "What is the real benefit of Yui" So we're talking about the real benefits here. Sure, orb revealing is a benefit, but it's not that much of a real benefit because of how seldom it will be used.
  
  For more realistic benefit that would actually fulfill its value, fashion is the answer. The orb part, you can easily live without it.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2014-08-31 05:51
  All these benefits are useless for a level 10k+ character.
  
  Ice mine reveal? Cmon, you should have those memorized. Or use demigod for that. It's probably capped, so abuse that.
  
  Orb reveal? Cmon, you should have the orb spawns memorized. Hell, i do.
  
  Yui is good for newbies, which is ironic considering the price.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-08-31 05:57

  Quote from Aubog007;1244004:

  All these benefits are useless for a level 1k+ character.
  
  Ice mine reveal? Cmon, you should have those memorized. Or use demigod for that. It's probably capped, so abuse that.
  
  Orb reveal? Cmon, you should have the orb spawns memorized. Hell, i do.
  
  Yui is good for newbies, which is ironic considering the price.

  
  
  Fixed.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2014-08-31 05:58

  Quote from ironwoman;1244005:

  Fixed.

  
  
  I was being neutral. Sort of.
• Nalgor wrote on 2014-08-31 16:49

  Quote from Iyasenu;1243481:

  This probably isn't too relevant, but that whole "correct orb cycling clockwise every 10 seconds" thing...
  Is that true, like... actually, definitely testable via using Yui's orb sparkle ability?
  
  That'd be neat to know for certain.

  
  
  
  As a Yui owner, I can help with that maybe.
  I entered a room, spotted the right orb, then waited for 30 secs.
  It never changed from that one orb, then I hit it and it worked.
  Maybe it goes clockwise, but stops going clockwise when the orbs actually get in view?