Which Skills do you think are useless?

• JoeyDee9 wrote on 2014-09-16 20:08

  Quote from KingFintchz;1247737:

  So wouldn't that logic apply to both reload and grapple shot as they both add ample amounts of HP?

  
  
  Grapple shot is great if you know when to use it. It beats counter.
  
  Reload decreases reload time in guns so it's also a must if you actually want to us the skill set.
  
  I for one make use of all the gunner skills and feel that each of them has quite a few uses.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-09-16 22:40
  Grapple Shot is pretty bad but it's not entirely without use.
  
  Wine Making is the only skill which is completely useless, as it literally does nothing. Taming Wild Animals is also pretty bad. Most life skills are also totally obsolete due to gacha and events.
• Qnjo wrote on 2014-09-16 22:57
  After some serious Metallurgy grinding, I declare it to be useless. Other life skills at least make a noticable difference when ranked up but not this one. Like, at all. Leave it alone unless you really, really want that 11 dex.
• Bunny wrote on 2014-09-17 01:40

  Quote from Qnjo;1247760:

  After some serious Metallurgy grinding, I declare it to be useless. Other life skills at least make a noticable difference when ranked up but not this one. Like, at all. Leave it alone unless you really, really want that 11 dex.

  
  
  [FONT="Arial"]I'd say Metallurgy is useful because we need ores for so many things. I'd rather take 1x1 ore fragments over 2x2 ores from mining any day.
  
  It's useful for ranking Metal Conversion, for example. Saves a ton of space. You also need unknown ore fragments for Crash Shot! [/FONT]
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2014-09-17 02:26

  Quote from Bunny;1247786:

  [FONT="Arial"]I'd say Metallurgy is useful because we need ores for so many things. I'd rather take 1x1 ore fragments over 2x2 ores from mining any day.
  
  It's useful for ranking Metal Conversion, for example. Saves a ton of space. You also need unknown ore fragments for Crash Shot! [/FONT]

  
  
  And after you get those two skills, you will never need Metallurgy ever again.
  
  Synthesis duping is a better way of getting ingots.
• Bunny wrote on 2014-09-17 02:32

  Quote from EndlessDreams;1247792:

  And after you get those two skills, you will never need Metallurgy ever again.
  
  Synthesis duping is a better way of getting ingots.

  
  
  [FONT="Arial"]Well, people did use unknown ore fragments for dye synthing. But who knows if that will ever come back.
  
  And you need ores for conversion as well, not just ingots.[/FONT]
• KingFintchz wrote on 2014-09-17 02:39

  Quote from Bunny;1247794:

  [FONT="Arial"]Well, people did use unknown ore fragments for dye synthing. But who knows if that will ever come back.
  
  And you need ores for conversion as well, not just ingots.[/FONT]

  
  
  Metallurgy is also used in gathering Crystals from them Golems to get ducats.
• Qnjo wrote on 2014-09-17 03:07

  Quote from Bunny;1247786:

  [FONT="Arial"]I'd rather take 1x1 ore fragments over 2x2 ores from mining any day.[/FONT]

  
  Well yes, me too. I'm just saying that Metallurgy as a separate skill serves no purpose as ranking it makes literally no difference. It could be just like gathering wood from trees for that matter.
• Liesha wrote on 2014-09-17 03:08
  Might as well get metallurgy just so we can get title bonus for Ferghasing, I mean smithing ><
  
  Few other use for unknown ore
  1) getting crash shot (100 pcs)
  2) does anyone even remember ice mine?
• abc33kr wrote on 2014-09-17 03:18

  Quote from Bunny;1247794:

  [FONT="Arial"]Well, people did use unknown ore fragments for dye synthing. But who knows if that will ever come back.
  
  And you need ores for conversion as well, not just ingots.[/FONT]

  
  
  1. ranking metallurgy is actually counter productive for gathering unknown ore fragments. you're better off drilling in hillwen B1.
  2. you can just frag synthed ingots for ores.
• Bunny wrote on 2014-09-17 04:21
  [FONT="Arial"]I'm still not seeing how Metallurgy is completely useless.
  
  Unfortunately most people don't have R1 Synth or Frag, so there's that. I sure don't.[/FONT]
  
  

  Quote from Qnjo;1247801:

  Well yes, me too. I'm just saying that Metallurgy as a separate skill serves no purpose as ranking it makes literally no difference. It could be just like gathering wood from trees for that matter.

  
  
  [FONT="Arial"]Gotta cap that dex!
  
  And yeah, forgot about White Crystals for a moment.[/FONT]
• k1nsoo wrote on 2014-09-17 04:34

  Quote from Qnjo;1247760:

  After some serious Metallurgy grinding, I declare it to be useless. Other life skills at least make a noticable difference when ranked up but not this one. Like, at all. Leave it alone unless you really, really want that 11 dex.

  
  
  But this...
  
  

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• EndlessDreams wrote on 2014-09-17 05:54

  Quote from Bunny;1247807:

  [FONT="Arial"]I'm still not seeing how Metallurgy is completely useless.
  
  Unfortunately most people don't have R1 Synth or Frag, so there's that. I sure don't.[/FONT]

  
  
  Yea, most people definitely don't have r1 Synthesis and Fragmentation. Both of those skills are grindy, and have little use, especially after the dye nerf.
  Metal Conversion is pretty bad as well. It would have been a lot better skill if conversion can be done in bulk. That mini-game doesn't help either.
  
  So, when do you actually going to use Metallurgy? I have not touched Metallurgy in years since I got it to r1.
  Even when I was ranking Blacksmithing to r1 long ago, Metallurgy/Refining/Mining are like the most inefficient ways to get ingots.
  
  Many of the skills in this game fall under very narrow uses. Some have so narrow and rare uses that it can almost be called useless.
  
  

  Quote from k1nsoo;1247808:

  But this...
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/bCiR6/aa199a20ea.jpg]

  
  
  But you don't really need r1 to get Huge Lucky. I don't think ranks even affect it.
• Zekkii wrote on 2014-09-17 05:58

  Quote from EndlessDreams;1247823:

  But you don't really need r1 to get Huge Lucky. I don't think ranks even affect it.

  
  While it's true that rank doesn't effect lucky bonus rates, it increases the success rate from 35% to 50% and reduces the load time by a second so you can gather an extra time.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2014-09-17 06:18

  Quote from Zekkii;1247826:

  While it's true that rank doesn't effect lucky bonus rates, it increases the success rate from 35% to 50% and reduces the load time by a second so you can gather an extra time.

  
  
  It sure takes a long time to get r1 for such little effect. What happens if you failed to metallurgy on Crystal Golem? Do you get unknown ore?