[Mabinogi KR Test] Renovation Update - Ranged Combat // 12th of Feburary, 2015

• Lolguy12 wrote on 2015-02-13 12:01

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1265146:

  Hmm that's true, I forgot she cursed both. I want to skin an elf and experiment on their body so I can gain their running speed.

  
  
  [video=youtube;kjXxvCfXVGg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjXxvCfXVGg[/video]
  
  [video=youtube;lWjalrHuRmI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWjalrHuRmI[/video]
  
  the second video is a video of a player actually going through the alban knight dungeon
  
  i believe the difficulty is Int Considering it's C-ranked according to the beginning of the video
• Tetosan wrote on 2015-02-13 13:37

  Quote from Lolguy12;1265149:

  [video=youtube;kjXxvCfXVGg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjXxvCfXVGg[/video]
  

  
  
  Nice Visual and Animation Mod :3
  Why are you posting a video of someone modding a Hot Air Baloon Ballista over an Atlatl?
  Not sure which Stance and Animation that is but looks like Dual Guns or Cylinder
• Lolguy12 wrote on 2015-02-13 13:44

  Quote from Tetosan;1265151:

  Nice Visual and Animation Mod :3
  Why are you posting a video of someone modding a Hot Air Baloon Ballista over an Atlatl?
  Not sure which Stance and Animation that is but looks like Dual Guns or Cylinder

  
  
  found it while i was looking for videos of the dungeon and it looked interesting
• Tetosan wrote on 2015-02-13 14:42

  Quote from Lolguy12;1265153:

  found it while i was looking for videos of the dungeon and it looked interesting

  
  
  Sadly just mods XD
  
  also the difficulty of the quest in the video is general which is lowest difficulty.
  
  You can leave the dungeon whenever you want by talking to the statue in the big round room, however you'll Lose one of your daily tries when doing so.
• axc4899 wrote on 2015-02-13 16:10
  Does anyone know if successfully running the new Training Camp dungeon provides any Crusader experience or can be used as an alternative to completing Daily/Weekly Orders?
  
  I tend to get on late due a day job and it can be difficult to get a Girgashiy party going if its too late in the evening.
• Tetosan wrote on 2015-02-13 16:15

  Quote from axc4899;1265166:

  Does anyone know if successfully running the new Training Camp dungeon provides any Crusader experience or can be used as an alternative to completing Daily/Weekly Orders?
  
  I tend to get on late due a day job and it can be difficult to get a Girgashiy party going if its too late in the evening.

  
  
  i do believe it rewards Divine Exp, latest we can be sure tho is when Kingofrunes is back and we can thoroughly test the Dungeons (I seem to be the only Member of the Team interested enough in the Dungeons and around at the moment to test them and my Char is rather Weak.)
  
  Also the Difficulty of the dungeon as well as the Reward Rank is determined by the Stones used.
  
  Some Stones increase the Worth of the Rewards while others decrease.
  
  Difficulty is as Follows:
  
  General/Basic - When no Difficulty Stone is used
  Intermediate - Difficulty Change "Intermediate" is used on the Yellow Slot
  Advanced - Difficulty Change Advanced Stone is used on the Yellow slot
  Hard General (HM) - Difficulty Change Hard General is used on the yellow slot
  Hard Intermediate (Elite) - Difficulty Change Hard-Intermediate is used on Yellow Slot.
  
  So no the video definetly ran Basic ^^ The Difficulty changes add so called Reward Points which increase the quality of Reward while other stones, for e.x Party-Buff Recovery Rate 200% or "Party Size Unlimited" do decrease the Quality
• axc4899 wrote on 2015-02-13 16:34
  Thank you for the quick reply! I will keep my fingers crossed.
  
  It seems pretty unreasonable that they would expect us to level up Crusader just on Orders alone. I think someone here did the math and said it would take about 3 years? I am also glad that they decided to continue with the Crusader storyline.
• Tetosan wrote on 2015-02-13 16:36

  Quote from axc4899;1265169:

  Thank you for the quick reply! I will keep my fingers crossed.
  
  It seems pretty unreasonable that they would expect us to level up Crusader just on Orders alone. I think someone here did the math and said it would take about 3 years? I am also glad that they decided to continue with the Crusader storyline.

  
  
  It will continue anyways, The Story about the Divine Knights and their battle against the Prophets isn't over.
  
  Also if anyone here can read Korean i'd need a Translation of 수련치
  Not sure what it means. it's used in context of Talents.
• abyssolar wrote on 2015-02-13 17:16

  Quote from Tetosan;1265170:

  
  Also if anyone here can read Korean i'd need a Translation of 수련치
  Not sure what it means. it's used in context of Talents.

  
  
  Training proficiency.
• Tetosan wrote on 2015-02-13 17:33

  Quote from abyssolar;1265172:

  Training proficiency.

  
  
  Ah thanks :3
  So there's stones which can give you 150% Training
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-02-13 17:47

  Quote from Kapra;1265132:

  Why is everyone awing over the gatling attack? All I see notable about it is that it has an overly flashy skill animation. What makes it so special to warrant it becoming a player skill over all the other monster skills?

  
  
  

  
  
  • Most of us were expecting more skills.
    
  • Archers aren't very diverse due to the very few skills they're given.
    
  • Archers only have one effective area of effect: Crash Shot, and it's very slow due to the long cooldown and the time to aim it from what I've been told. Magnum splash isn't powerful, Mirage may or may not be powerful enough anymore, and Elven Magic Missile and Spirit Bow Awakening is outright useless.
    
  • This is about ARCHERY RENOVATION. I see no reason they should have stopped after the little tweaks, but instead they slapped in new content and gave a new archer skill that's exclusive to the boss.
    

  
  
  

  Quote from JamesCook16;1265135:

  Alban Knight Golem's Gatling Shot? Whats that?

  
  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/4UkND5Q.jpg]

  
  
  

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1265142:

  Actually make that Neimhain as she's the one who cursed the elves. I don't think she liked the elves for some reason >.>

  
  
  The reason why she cursed both races is because they got greedy and tried to fight over the Heart of Courcle, so she punished them.
  
  

  Quote from axc4899;1265169:

  It seems pretty unreasonable that they would expect us to level up Crusader just on Orders alone. I think someone here did the math and said it would take about 3 years? I am also glad that they decided to continue with the Crusader storyline.

  
  
  Less than 4 years actually only for perfect attendance.
• ironwoman wrote on 2015-02-13 18:15

  Quote from Kapra;1265132:

  Why is everyone awing over the gatling attack? All I see notable about it is that it has an overly flashy skill animation. What makes it so special to warrant it becoming a player skill over all the other monster skills?

  
  
  While I don't really want the gatling attack as I don't care too much about it, the main issue was that there was very little given to archery this renovation. I'd have loved to decreased cooldown time on Crash shot. It's a really good skill, but sort of plagued by the long cooldown time and slower aiming speed. To be honest, I feel like pre-dynamic crash shot does more DPS than the current one. Mirage missile is a bit better after the renovation, but still not useful. Realistically, there are only three skills that shine for range: Magnum shot, Final Shot, and Arrow Revolver. Support shot can be good at times but highly situational.
  
  The new skill that was given is a skill that turns out to be pretty useless... the reasoning is, if you miss, you can just bowmill for a more powerful attack. Especially after seeing Lightning Rod, I guess players wanted the same caliber attack skill for range.
• Tetosan wrote on 2015-02-13 18:21

  Quote from ironwoman;1265175:

  While I don't really want the gatling attack as I don't care too much about it, the main issue was that there was very little given to archery this renovation. I'd have loved to decreased cooldown time on Crash shot. It's a really good skill, but sort of plagued by the long cooldown time and slower aiming speed. To be honest, I feel like pre-dynamic crash shot does more DPS than the current one. Mirage missile is a bit better after the renovation, but still not useful. Realistically, there are only three skills that shine for range: Magnum shot, Final Shot, and Arrow Revolver. Support shot can be good at times but highly situational.
  
  The new skill that was given is a skill that turns out to be pretty useless... the reasoning is, if you miss, you can just bowmill for a more powerful attack. Especially after seeing Lightning Rod, I guess players wanted the same caliber attack skill for range.

  
  
  i disagree with both, Final Shot being actually useful (it sucks seriously) and Urgent Shot being useless.
  I find myself using Urgent shot over Windmill since you have a way larger range that way than with Windmill for quite some attack, then again i'm an ELF so i'd rather use a skill depending on my DEX than my STR :3
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-02-13 18:28

  Quote from ironwoman;1265175:

  I'd have loved to decreased cooldown time on Crash shot. It's a really good skill, but sort of plagued by the long cooldown time and slower aiming speed. To be honest, I feel like pre-dynamic crash shot does more DPS than the current one.

  
  
  Pre-Genesis: 2 sec load time, 0 sec cooldown time.
  Post-Genesis: 0 sec load time, 5.5 sec cooldown time.
  
  It's 2x slower than the old Crash... which is dumb. I don't understand nerfing it to begin with.
• Zekkii wrote on 2015-02-13 18:29

  Quote from Darkboy132;1265174:

  
  

  
  
  • Archers only have one effective area of effect: Crash Shot, and it's very slow due to the long cooldown and the time to aim it from what I've been told.
    

  
  

  
  That's really not true at all, the cooldown is only 5.5 seconds and it takes about a second to aim in close proximity. I get that people want more AoEs, they always will, but why doesn't anyone go hybrid?
  

  Quote from Tetosan;1265176:

  i disagree with both, Final Shot being actually useful (it sucks seriously) and Urgent Shot being useless.
  I find myself using Urgent shot over Windmill since you have a way larger range that way than with Windmill for quite some attack, then again i'm an ELF so i'd rather use a skill depending on my DEX than my STR :3

  
  Not to mention animation speed and the aim bonus after. The only part that sucks is that you have to miss to use it.
  
  

  Quote from Darkboy132;1265177:

  Pre-Genesis: 2 sec load time, 0 sec cooldown time.
  Post-Genesis: 0 sec load time, 5.5 sec cooldown time.
  
  It's 2x slower than the old Crash... which is dumb. I don't understand nerfing it to begin with.

  
  I don't consider that a nerf, load time <<<<<< cooldown time.