[Mabinogi KR Test] Renovation Update - Ranged Combat // 12th of Feburary, 2015

• Kapra wrote on 2015-03-01 23:14

  Quote from Oberynn;1266736:

  Step 2~3 = 75% and step 4~6 = 67% anvil.
  Hard Intermediate (rank S) reward.
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/ghYHA/1e6cf575e1.png]

  
  Reward rank effects the success rate? You needed a special room certification stone to encounter the anvil right?
  
  It must be annoying to carry all the money for this crap if there isn't somehow a bank NPC in there.
• Daniel1235 wrote on 2015-03-01 23:36

  Quote from Kapra;1266760:

  Reward rank effects the success rate? You needed a special room certification stone to encounter the anvil right?
  
  It must be annoying to carry all the money for this crap if there isn't somehow a bank NPC in there.

  
  
  I know at least one person ( an acquaintance and kind of a friend) who doesn't really have problem with that... Just do what he did, buy AT LEAST one medium sized bag from merchant imp and fill it with nothing but lorna's/pan's gold boxes (6x5 bag size, 2x1 goldbox size so 3 mulitiplying by 5 is 15 boxes... each box can carry 50k gold so 3/4 million gold with ease) and voilà! problem solved!
  :thumb:
  
  Edit: PS: I'm not quite sure how to say the sizes right so... sorry in advance. :whoops::blush:
  
  Edit: mistyped voilà... now fixed!
• gundamweed wrote on 2015-03-02 00:45

  Quote from Daniel1235;1266762:

  I know at least one person ( an acquaintance and kind of a friend) who doesn't really have problem with that... Just do what he did, buy AT LEAST one medium sized bag from merchant imp and fill it with nothing but lorna's/pan's gold boxes (6x5 bag size, 2x1 goldbox size so 3 mulitiplying by 5 is 15 boxes... each box can carry 50k gold so 3/4 million gold with ease) and voilà! problem solved!
  :thumb:
  
  Edit: PS: I'm not quite sure how to say the sizes right so... sorry in advance. :whoops::blush:
  
  Edit: mistyped voilà... now fixed!

  
  
  Here's an easier method! Buy one day of VIP, or wait for a free VIP event thing, and buy one of those premium item bags, fill it with nothing but 50k wallets. Gold will still flow in an out even after VIP expires and you lose access to the bag. Bam, now you can carry 1mil.
• Kapra wrote on 2015-03-02 00:59

  Quote from gundamweed;1266765:

  Here's an easier method! Buy one day of VIP, or wait for a free VIP event thing, and buy one of those premium item bags, fill it with nothing but 50k wallets. Gold will still flow in an out even after VIP expires and you lose access to the bag. Bam, now you can carry 1mil.

  
  But then you can't divide the amount of gold in the bag for transactions that don't involve checks, right?
• Zeo wrote on 2015-03-02 01:06
  Like it was mentioned somewhere in the thread that Alban dungeon gives crusader exp upon completion... Does anyone know how much? I understand the number might vary depending on type of Alban dungeon?
  
  And I know the boss in there is a some type of apostle mob that used a model of a Shadow Golem... Would using it be good for using crusader subskills training? Especially for the one that require hitting an Apostle. The question still remained mystery for the crystal mobs you encounter on 'Elite' (Apostle) difficulty of Girgashiy raid, and if they count as an 'apostle' needed to fulfill training requirements for some subskills.
• gundamweed wrote on 2015-03-02 01:19

  Quote from Kapra;1266768:

  But then you can't divide the amount of gold in the bag for transactions that don't involve checks, right?

  
  
  You can't, but it's not like you need to divide gold out of your wallet whenever you buy an item, right? You'd only need to do such a thing when giving people the occasional 1 or 2k. In such cases, carrying a gold box or extra wallet outside of that bag would serve the purpose fine. I personally use my 1x1 money box.
• Oberynn wrote on 2015-03-02 02:00

  Quote from gundamweed;1266765:

  Here's an easier method! Buy one day of VIP, or wait for a free VIP event thing, and buy one of those premium item bags, fill it with nothing but 50k wallets. Gold will still flow in an out even after VIP expires and you lose access to the bag. Bam, now you can carry 1mil.

  
  
  Just wondering, why is VIP needed? You can buy and use the 100k gold bag from walter without any sort of premium service.
• Kapra wrote on 2015-03-02 02:03

  Quote from Zeo;1266770:

  Like it was mentioned somewhere in the thread that Alban dungeon gives crusader exp upon completion... Does anyone know how much? I understand the number might vary depending on type of Alban dungeon?
  

  
  I don't have proof but I think the amount of divine experience given varies with reward rank, and not difficulty. I'm not sure exactly how much each rank gives. The way reward ranks work is, each Certification Stone either increases points or decreases points. If you use a stone that makes monsters have 70% of their normal health, that subtracts points. If you use a stone that makes monsters have 150% of their normal health, that increases points. If you use a stone that increases dungeon difficulty, that increases points too. So potentially, you can use stones that increase the dungeon difficulty to intermediate but nerfs monsters/buffs players to the point that the rewards are still that of the lowest difficulty/rank.
  
  I don't know how many points equals what rank yet.
  

  Quote from Zeo;1266770:

  
  And I know the boss in there is a some type of apostle mob that used a model of a Shadow Golem... Would using it be good for using crusader subskills training? Especially for the one that require hitting an Apostle. The question still remained mystery for the crystal mobs you encounter on 'Elite' (Apostle) difficulty of Girgashiy raid, and if they count as an 'apostle' needed to fulfill training requirements for some subskills.

  
  Actually, story wise this isn't an apostle. None of these enemies are wild, the alban knights set this all up to train their recruits, including making the Golem. As for skill training, I'm not sure if it satisfies the apostle requirements. As far as I know, none of the divine skills are required to kill this boss either.
  
  Also this sentence "And I know the boss in there is a some type of apostle mob that used a model of a Shadow Golem..." confuses me. This boss is a Golem, not an Apostle, and it uses the same framework as a Shadow Golem (and not a Coloussus puppet). Just like Goblins use the same framework as a Human (well used to, Human framework changes over time), gorgons and reindeer share framework, etc.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2015-03-02 02:37
  Or best solution ever.
  
  
  Bank Tickets. Yes advanced play items are NOT useless.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-03-02 02:46
  If they're going to give more Crusader skills, they might increase the crusader level cap...
  
  The new dungeon better give a significant amount of EXP and/or they need to buff Orders' EXP.
• Zeo wrote on 2015-03-02 03:03

  Quote from Kapra;1266774:

  Actually, story wise this isn't an apostle. None of these enemies are wild, the alban knights set this all up to train their recruits, including making the Golem. As for skill training, I'm not sure if it satisfies the apostle requirements. As far as I know, none of the divine skills are required to kill this boss either.
  
  Also this sentence "And I know the boss in there is a some type of apostle mob that used a model of a Shadow Golem..." confuses me. This boss is a Golem, not an Apostle, and it uses the same framework as a Shadow Golem (and not a Coloussus puppet). Just like Goblins use the same framework as a Human (well used to, Human framework changes over time), gorgons and reindeer share framework, etc.

  
  
  As far as what I have read so far, Girgashiy is one of the 'Apostles' and there's some more mobs that might be an Apostle as well, like the shadow golem as a boss, I assumed it might be labeled as an apostle, but since that boss have Arrow Gatling skill, I assume we may get that as one of the future crusader skills.
• Kapra wrote on 2015-03-02 03:34

  Quote from Zeo;1266780:

  As far as what I have read so far, Girgashiy is one of the 'Apostles' and there's some more mobs that might be an Apostle as well, like the shadow golem as a boss, I assumed it might be labeled as an apostle, but since that boss have Arrow Gatling skill, I assume we may get that as one of the future crusader skills.

  
  There are actually three skills exclusive to this new boss, though that would be interesting. One of the four groups of the Alban Knights is believed to focus on archery.
  
  

  Quote from Aubog007;1266775:

  Or best solution ever.
  
  
  Bank Tickets. Yes advanced play items are NOT useless.

  
  I feel so stupid for not thinking of this. I feel foolish now for never considering what use the coupons could serve.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-03-02 03:55

  Quote from Zeo;1266780:

  As far as what I have read so far, Girgashiy is one of the 'Apostles' and there's some more mobs that might be an Apostle as well, like the shadow golem as a boss, I assumed it might be labeled as an apostle, but since that boss have Arrow Gatling skill, I assume we may get that as one of the future crusader skills.

  
  
  Apostles are a classification of monsters made to serve the Prophets and their as-yet identified god. I'm guessing there's four Apostles, one for each generation. Think of it as the four Guardians of Avon.
  
  Inb4 G21 doesn't have a new Apostle and inb4 G22 doesn't introduce the 4th Apostle.
• Qnjo wrote on 2015-03-02 10:22
  Back to the topic of Throwing Attack, I did a quick test myself and here are the results:
  [SPOILER="My shamefully low stats."]

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/JV55j3Z.jpg]

  [/SPOILER]
  Math time. With 80 balance my final min should be 130 rounded up and an ideal max is 297. For the sake of simplicity let's settle for 213 average.
  
  I took 50 javelins and used them all on foxes around Filia. The lowest damage was
  [SPOILER="179"]

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/7bQWtGW.jpg]

  [/SPOILER] and my best non-critical shot has amounted to
  [SPOILER="281"]

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/7cLpoyr.jpg]

  [/SPOILER]
  And that makes an average of 230.
  
  So... am I missing something with calculations? Because it seems that Throwing Attack works as intended.
• Daniel1235 wrote on 2015-03-02 12:22

  Quote from gundamweed;1266765:

  Here's an easier method! Buy one day of VIP, or wait for a free VIP event thing, and buy one of those premium item bags, fill it with nothing but 50k wallets. Gold will still flow in an out even after VIP expires and you lose access to the bag. Bam, now you can carry 1mil.

  
  Nice try, but I like my money accessible... ^^;
  
  

  Quote from Aubog007;1266775:

  Or best solution ever.
  
  
  Bank Tickets. Yes advanced play items are NOT useless.

  
  
  Yes I must agree, that IS THE best solution. but that only works if you pay for/have(if event is in progress) VIP service.
  
  My solution is for all who can't/won't pay for such services. :awesome: :thumb: