[Mabinogi KR Test] Renovation Update - Ranged Combat // 12th of Feburary, 2015

• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-05-01 03:38

  Quote from Nui;1273206:

  It's a bit better than bullet slide imo. However that skill takes into account a much more fluid combat system and a much better engine so its not exactly very easy to accomplish in mabinogi.

  
  
  Honestly, Bullet Slide itself needs to be tweaked a bit too...
  
  I wouldn't mind if Archers got Tumble, but at least make it not cancel aiming % so it's very fluid. The same could be said for switching targets and Evasion.
• Daakun wrote on 2015-05-01 05:43
  The problem with archery skill loading is that you can't actually load archery skills at the end of archery skills.
  Like, you can load Defence instantly after Windmilling, but Counter will wait for the entire Windmill animation to complete.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF04zhoKyO8
  
  Before the skill icon 'locks in', it's just your client queuing the skill for when you can actually perform it; if you click to begin aiming before the skill loads, it assumes you mean to replace the queued skill with a normal ranged attack.
• Tropa wrote on 2015-05-01 05:58

  Quote from Kazusa Touma;1273181:

  range sucks in general, and revamp barely did shit with it.. esp elven range -. -
  
  i'm only sticking with it because i dont feel like starting all over with a human again
  
  mabi reaching end of its life anyway.. probably die within the next couple of years once peria and ToS come out

  
  
  Honestly, one of the main reasons the game itsef is still running is the fashion and gachapon.
  
  The devs clearly have 0 concept of game balance.
• Zekkii wrote on 2015-05-01 08:52

  Quote from Tropa;1273221:

  Honestly, one of the main reasons the game itsef is still running is the fashion and gachapon.
  
  The devs clearly have 0 concept of game balance.

  
  It seems there's very few games with the level of customization as there is in Mabinogi, which is really a shame. Only in Mabi can you choose from millions of colour and outfit combinations [S]in order to simply grab the newest one and dye it the same colour as everyone else.[/S]
• Kazusa Touma wrote on 2015-05-02 16:40

  Quote from Tropa;1273221:

  Honestly, one of the main reasons the game itsef is still running is the fashion and gachapon.
  
  The devs clearly have 0 concept of game balance.

  
  
  

  Quote from Zekkii;1273231:

  It seems there's very few games with the level of customization as there is in Mabinogi, which is really a shame. Only in Mabi can you choose from millions of colour and outfit combinations [S]in order to simply grab the newest one and dye it the same colour as everyone else.[/S]

  
  
  yup... if it weren't for the fashionogi and cosplay possibilities i probably would have never came back the first year i started. pretty much the only reason i'm STILL here after years is to dye and redye old/new outfits or to dress up alts. seeing big numbers is fun too but i've already accepted that the combat system is broken beyond repair so i'm not really expecting much out of it anymore
• Fracture wrote on 2015-05-02 17:56

  Quote from Kazusa Touma;1273380:

  i've already accepted that the combat system is broken beyond repair

  
  
  Never true. Just requires a director with enough balls to start ripping it up and implementing something that's better, while still holding true to the original ideals of Mabi's combat. That will never actually happen, granted, just saying it's possible.
• willcaster wrote on 2015-05-02 19:16

  Quote from Fracture;1273385:

  Never true. Just requires a director with enough balls to start ripping it up and implementing something that's better, while still holding true to the original ideals of Mabi's combat. That will never actually happen, granted, just saying it's possible.

  
  
  unless everyone is willing to accept a big nerf in dmg to make a balance btw classes; i dont think ppl want to lose thier 150k dmg or reforges.
  
  For me mabi used to be a game where a goblin could crit kill me, our dmg was balanced with our hp; ppl had max 500 hp and crit up to 1.5k. "classes" had atleast 1 tradeable skill (smash, bolts, crit) now new talents dosent share anything to the universal skill tree.
• Zeo wrote on 2015-05-02 19:51
  Like I said... Nerfing all the skills down to oblivion is never the solution some people seem to think it is.
  
  I've pointed it out again and again that devCat need to implement harder contents, but they don't seem to know how to do it properly without restricting us to be stuck with few skills because you don't want to restrict people from using skills.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2015-05-02 22:58

  Quote from Zeo;1273388:

  Like I said... Nerfing all the skills down to oblivion is never the solution some people seem to think it is.
  
  I've pointed it out again and again that devCat need to implement harder contents, but they don't seem to know how to do it properly without restricting us to be stuck with few skills because you don't want to restrict people from using skills.

  
  
  Nerfing all skills is a bad idea. Nerfing some, while improving others is a great idea. Improving monster stats, across the board, is a good idea if done properly.
  
  Unfortunately, DevCat would definitely fuck all of the above up as they've proven time and again.
• Yoru wrote on 2015-05-03 05:48

  Quote from Zekkii;1273231:

  It seems there's very few games with the level of customization as there is in Mabinogi, which is really a shame. Only in Mabi can you choose from millions of colour and outfit combinations [S]in order to simply grab the newest one and dye it the same colour as everyone else.[/S]

  
  
  Black Desert Online now offers that too with even more dyeable parts on each piece of equipment. Q.Q
  
  I would love to see something nice done to mabinogi to make me want to play more. Maybe a housing (and/or homestead), ego and dungeon revamp would do it for me! ^.^
• Twin wrote on 2015-05-04 05:52

  Quote from Kazusa Touma;1273380:

  but i've already accepted that the combat system is broken beyond repair so i'm not really expecting much out of it anymore

  
  I think it can still be fixed with nerfs and rebalances, but buffs.. yea I'm not sure how far Nexon can go with that one. That's just my opinion though
  
  

  Quote from Fracture;1273385:

  Never true. Just requires a director with enough balls to start ripping it up and implementing something that's better, while still holding true to the original ideals of Mabi's combat. That will never actually happen, granted, just saying it's possible.

  
  
  I've wanted a nerf/rebalanced for along time now. I feel Nexon could make Mabi's bosses more challenging without resorting too being really cheap (M.Lich, Duke, Basilisk ect)
  
  

  Quote from Zekkii;1273231:

  It seems there's very few games with the level of customization as there is in Mabinogi, which is really a shame. Only in Mabi can you choose from millions of colour and outfit combinations [S]in order to simply grab the newest one and dye it the same colour as everyone else.[/S]

  
  
  Newer items have better textures than most older models,which Nexon haven't update yet. As for the same color thing[S], unless you're messing around with friends, I dunno ,copy-cats?o3o[/S]
• Noctuneko wrote on 2015-05-12 16:55
  Honestly, at this point any of those ideas would be an improvement doesn't matters which.. the problem is having them actually implement them in game.. if only they would listen/care... sigh.
• Blissfulkill wrote on 2015-05-12 23:15

  Quote from Fracture;1273385:

  Never true. Just requires a director with enough balls to start ripping it up and implementing something that's better, while still holding true to the original ideals of Mabi's combat. That will never actually happen, granted, just saying it's possible.

  
  
  Depends on your definition of balance. I believe this includes revamping reforges.:smoke2:
• Ghostmonkey wrote on 2015-05-16 22:28
  I was wondering now that the spider traps are in general shops. how much would it be?
• Rydian wrote on 2015-05-17 19:50

  Quote from Ghostmonkey;1275181:

  I was wondering now that the spider traps are in general shops. how much would it be?

  KR lists them as 1K per stack of 10.