[KR] G20: Door of Sanctuary // 20th of August, 2015

• Rynn wrote on 2015-09-13 19:44
  Idk, but seeing as it's only 3% and there is no in-game text stating a limit like there is for binding needle it probably stacks for everyone who bladed.
• Osiris wrote on 2015-09-14 02:50

  Quote from Esileruf;1286433:

  People found out that one can support shot before Rage Impact's effects actually apply, I think its a .7s window or so, and both bonuses apply.

  
  
  Yeah we use this in the runs on Mari. Someone uses Rage, and then SS needs to hit it BEFORE the red glow effect happens - that's how you know it worked. With powerups, that trick, SS reforge, bohemian, SS title, etc I've seen about 200k damage from crits on just the first blade. That Rage/SS combo adds a ton of damage.
• Osiris wrote on 2015-09-14 02:55

  Quote from delight;1286355:

  Are you serious...? How the f you get it to Lv15 ?!
  
  But what will it do anyway? I am still unclear what will breaking lie do since it only reduces 3.0% at Lv15 while the blade itself reduces defense by 35% per hit?

  
  
  I wish I could still play a lot like I have for so long, but going back to school for an MBA has now taken up most of my free time :(
  
  

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• delight wrote on 2015-09-14 03:17

  Quote from Rynn;1286423:

  Breaking lies is to to remove apostle damage reduction for non-crusader damage after the combo. Like in the video posted earlier, they killed it with non-crusader skills pretty fast after 60%. I'm guessing the 35% (future 60%) variable that has been mentioned likely has something to do with that aspect of judgement blade. The effect seems to quickly dissipate, so the sooner and faster you deal damage the higher it will be.
  
  Taking into account load/cooldown time and requirements, breaking lies will be likely 10~20x easier to train in g20.

  
  
  Thanks for the explaination.
  
  So what I am assuming is that breaking lies can stack, but the timer for each stack is separated.
  
  Changing from 35% to 60% for the blade means that it may be better to have fewer blades but more people with FHs after the blade?
• Iyasenu wrote on 2015-10-01 10:04
  I'm wondering, you know how Breaking Lies' unlock requirement is to "Obtain 14 types of Crusader sub-skills."?
  Do the subskills of Divine Link count towards that?
  Or do only the G19 Crusader skills' subskills count towards that?
  
  [SIZE="1"]Was this answered already?
  I couldn't find the answer when I was searching, but I may have just missed it.[/SIZE]
• TheDarkPaladin wrote on 2015-10-01 10:23

  Quote from Iyasenu;1287802:

  I'm wondering, you know how Breaking Lies' unlock requirement is to "Obtain 14 types of Crusader sub-skills."?
  Do the subskills of Divine Link count towards that?
  Or do only the G19 Crusader skills' subskills count towards that?
  
  [SIZE="1"]Was this answered already?
  I couldn't find the answer when I was searching, but I may have just missed it.[/SIZE]

  
  Probably only the g19 ones, tho the divine link ones are far easier to get than most of the g19 subskills, especially since its nearly impossible to find a good raid team anymore (im lucky if there's even anyone near the emblem whenever in there on my server).
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-10-04 11:06

  Quote from Iyasenu;1287802:

  I'm wondering, you know how Breaking Lies' unlock requirement is to "Obtain 14 types of Crusader sub-skills."?
  Do the subskills of Divine Link count towards that?
  Or do only the G19 Crusader skills' subskills count towards that?
  
  [SIZE="1"]Was this answered already?
  I couldn't find the answer when I was searching, but I may have just missed it.[/SIZE]

  
  
  I don't think it was answered. While that would be interesting to know, getting 9 subskills off the G19 ones isn't exactly an easy feat. I mean, does anyone in KR do Girgashiy anymore, especially with the Knight Trainee System in place?
• delight wrote on 2015-10-07 03:12

  Quote from Darkboy132;1287986:

  I don't think it was answered. While that would be interesting to know, getting 9 subskills off the G19 ones isn't exactly an easy feat. I mean, does anyone in KR do Girgashiy anymore, especially with the Knight Trainee System in place?

  
  
  Please correct me if I am wrong, but I do assume people still do Girgashiy daily runs.
  
  A well organized daily run can totally finish within 30 minutes (3 normal runs), giving 800 EXP (plus bonus from weekly quests), which is actually not that bad. Even if people do not have time do do them on daily basis, finishing 3 out of 7 dailies can still yield to 6400 exp per week.
  
  I am assuming people who actually did Girgashiy daily runs before G20 on a regular basis should reach ~120 crusader levels, meaning that they could allocate 70 points in one sub-skill and 50 left for divine link. Since trainee system does not require that much attention based on Kingofrunes video (thank you very much), I would assume people could do their trainee knight thingy while waiting for a full (or close to full) party for a daily run.
  
  Since I still have not heard from any sources regarding getting crusader exp potion from the new trainee knight system yet, I would assume it is not a reliable source for crusader exp (yet).
• Rynn wrote on 2015-10-07 03:27

  Quote from Darkboy132;1287986:

  I mean, does anyone in KR do Girgashiy anymore, especially with the Knight Trainee System in place?

  
  
  Why on earth wouldn't they do Girgashiy? The g20 trainee system is completely different content that does not conflict with g19 content at all.
  
  They actually use VHM Girgashiy as the casual way to earn exp/gold just like people here in NA use npc arena as the casual way to earn exp/gold. Some groups are actually able to bot it with zero user input for hours on end.
• Deletion wrote on 2015-10-07 05:01

  Quote from Rynn;1288145:

  Why on earth wouldn't they do Girgashiy? The g20 trainee system is completely different content that does not conflict with g19 content at all.
  
  They actually use VHM Girgashiy as the casual way to earn exp/gold just like people here in NA use npc arena as the casual way to earn exp/gold. Some groups are actually able to bot it with zero user input for hours on end.

  
  
  oh god, bot-able girgy
  Madness!
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-10-07 12:19

  Quote from delight;1288144:

  
  Since I still have not heard from any sources regarding getting crusader exp potion from the new trainee knight system yet, I would assume it is not a reliable source for crusader exp (yet).

  
  
  It's not a reliable source for crusader exp as far as I can tell from the missions I've been sending them out on repeatedly since this question first came up. I've gotten my knights trained up and going on level 10 command missons at this point. Now for command level 11+ missions they need 4 stats instead of 3. Seems that the number of stats needed per knight goes up as you go up in command level missions.
  
  But ya, I have yet to see the Crusader Exp Potion that Teto says they got. I can only conclude that it's a rare item. Teto seems very good at getting rare events as I have yet to injure either Kanna or Elsie either despite me sending them on so many missions and training them.
• delight wrote on 2015-10-09 04:54

  Quote from Rynn;1288145:

  Why on earth wouldn't they do Girgashiy? The g20 trainee system is completely different content that does not conflict with g19 content at all.
  
  They actually use VHM Girgashiy as the casual way to earn exp/gold just like people here in NA use npc arena as the casual way to earn exp/gold. Some groups are actually able to bot it with zero user input for hours on end.

  
  
  Wow WTF? Would you please elaborate a little bit more?
  
  Girgashiy VHM runs do have quite high requirements for many players, let alone bots.
• TheDarkPaladin wrote on 2015-10-09 05:04

  Quote from delight;1288268:

  Wow WTF? Would you please elaborate a little bit more?
  
  Girgashiy VHM runs do have quite high requirements for many players, let alone bots.

  
  
  honestly if it were for those players that have like 50-70% of their skills capped, maybe more, id be wondering how people even clear vhm in the first place....doesnt help i never see any girg runs going on in my server tho
• Rynn wrote on 2015-10-09 05:09
  Enough damage, breaking lies, g20 blade buffs and the usual ways people glitch girgash aggro on entry pretty much guarantees completion of every run in a simple manner that can be automated. Everyone over there just focuses on completion for the rewards since clear time is literally just RNG and how much time you want to dedicate to RNG.
• delight wrote on 2015-10-09 09:41
  But won't that be too risky? I mean, if they got banned because of it, it would be a huge loss for them since doing VH Girgashiy is pretty much impossible for a team of alts to run?