Let's talk Samhain *SPOILERS*

• Invisible wrote on 2015-12-22 08:53
  I despise that harp minigame so much, I just quit the mission when I see Meryl standing next to that incarnation of evil.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2015-12-22 09:25

  Quote from Invisible;1291920:

  I despise that harp minigame so much, I just quit the mission when I see Meryl standing next to that incarnation of evil.

  
  
  Wow I didn't know you could just quit and get a new one.
  But having to find that key again...
• Kapra wrote on 2015-12-22 09:41
  I liked the story. At first act 1 felt really uninteresting but after reading the end of it, it made you go wow and want to go back and redo act 1. That being said, both act 1 and 2 sucked mechanic wise but the story was good. But act 2's story was decent, better than saga. I lucked out ant got the sliding puzzle only once, hate that one. Rhythm game all the way!
  
  I liked how they added a new event map that's an alternate version of port ceann. I also appreciate them giving some attention to port ceann. Makes you wonder if shenon is physically incapable of leaving port ceann now, since in the alternate ceann, there is no exit, and he seems to always be in that reality.
  
  The rewards are pretty nice. There is a bag that takes up 1x1 inv and gives you 6x6 room. Gotta spam spam spam though. You can get 29 H coins in your first playthrough of act 2, but only 13 on repeats. BUT you don't have to wait for your second playthrough. You also get a total of 40 S and H coins across all the hot times that are coming. Also Caravan Joe gives you 5 rabbie act 1 passes a day without having to repeat the storyline, but I don't see much use in S coins.
  
  If anyone knows whats in the H and S coin boxes let me know. Curious to see what else is in there.
  
  The cliffhanger at the end was pretty good too. Seems to imply there'll be an act 3 or like a connection to G21 maybe. Makes you wonder if that's why they decided to give it to NA now, because maybe they want us to have act 3 next halloween.
  
  The credits left me with another question to
  

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  Is this meant to be taken literally or figuratively?
  
  
  Did the harp and easel room look like this? I don't think we went to this room.
  

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  These visuals are pleasing.
  

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• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-12-22 09:52
  That room you mentioned is the barrel room. I felt that the rythm thing went on for far too long especially as no music played so for me it was really boring and I just sat there thinking when will this end?
  
  I didn't mind the sliding puzzle, I only got it once. The Rolling Barrels I got 3 times which I didn't mind either. I really enjoyed the atmosphere, the music, the voice acting and the story.
  
  Yes the partner does have voiceovers for it.
  
  I should try and get that 1x1 bag though, other than that, not too concerned about the rewards, I was more interested in the story honestly. Working on uploading all the story parts for both 1 & 2 that way I can enjoy the story whenever.
• ＣＩＲＮＯ wrote on 2015-12-22 10:02
  What 1x1 bag?
• Invisible wrote on 2015-12-22 10:21

  Quote from ＣＩＲＮＯ;1291928:

  What 1x1 bag?

  
  
  It's in Caravan Joe's shop. 70 H coins.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2015-12-22 13:45
  Yeah all the bags are, according to prices:
  
  1x1 bag with 6x6 inv: 70 H Coins
  
  1 wide 2 tall with 6x6 inv: 50 H Coins
  2 wide 1 tall with 6x6 inv: 50 H Coins
  
  1 wide 3 tall with 6x6 inv: 30 H coins
  3 wide 1 tall with 6x6 inv: 30 H coins
  
  
  Can have 1 of each bag, too.
  They're not bad, though spamming this can be kinda draining.
  
  But all-in-all I'm liking this 2nd part more than the 1st.
  The titles from the 1st shop are ok if you missed their equivalents from the SAO event.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-12-22 15:14
  The 2nd part for sure was a lot more dramatic than the 1st part. Anyways if you guys enjoyed the story, I did up a video showing mostly the dialogue bits. There's some missions/battle stuff i kept in though but tried to restrict that mostly to the more end story things.
  
  [video=youtube;XJWfc9x5fA4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJWfc9x5fA4[/video]
  
  I really enjoyed the voiceacting and the mid-climax/climax of part 2.
• ＣＩＲＮＯ wrote on 2015-12-22 16:24
  I don't like it.
  
  I beat the shit out of her, why does it still ends up with me on the ground?
  
  Oh, I see, another fucking Ruairi, huh?
  
  Waste of my fucking time, can't there be once where I am actually the hero to shit?
  
  Let's see.
  
  - Blamed by NPC for doing shit [X]
  - Cheated by NPC to do shit [X]
  - Lied to by NPC to do shit [X]
  - Pushed around by NPC to do shit [X]
  - Blamed by NPC again for doing nothing [X]
  
  - Does 53K crit lightning rod, ends up dead on the groud because of a forced loss [X]
  
  Thanks, totally best chapter ever. Feels like all other chapters IMO. If you think this is any better, you gotta start reading some visual novels and all that other crap, yo.
  
  After 19 generations.
  
  19 fucking generations, you would think that they would learn that YOU CANNOT DIE BECAUSE YOU ARE A MILLETIAN.
  In fact, it's implied many times that YOU CAN'T DIE. But hey, "FOR US TO HAVE A BETTER TIME IN THE AFTERLIFE, U HAF 2 DIE." Like, seriously, damn, you edgy or what? I can't die, and even if I can die, I doubt me dying will grant them any sort of salvation like shittttt yoooo, can't you just calm your tits and beg for help like literally NO NPCS DOES IN THE GAME? Maybe we can like save you from whatever doomsday, teleport out of the shadow mission and like buy you some food from Glenis or whatever.
  
  But no.
  
  You just had to pick a fight with the strongest being in all Erinn, and you think you had a chance to win.
  
  Furthermore, like mannnnn. She could have set some traps or at least figure out our fighting style after 5 straight rows of defeat, you did think she would at least set up some sort of insta-death trap or some magic RPG missile to OHKO us the moment we step into the room. After that very 5 times we fight her, she still thinks she can win with that Kristell get-up like some sort of street hooker, please. Even then, she still does 18 damage to my mana shield, summons Skeleton Orges that does 5 damage, and you did think by then she would know what's called giving up.
  
  The only thing in life she is good at is playing music.
  
  The only thing in death she is good at is playing music.
  
  She shouldn't have chosen to pick a shitty saber against us. Try a long range high cal. rifle next time. Snipe us from across the ship with a cannon, maybe we'll die that way if she can gib our invincible Milletanâ„¢ bodies so bad to the point that we can not respawn via soul stream.
  
  Samhain in a nutshell.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-12-22 16:43
  Something tells me you're never going to be happy with any story devcat throws out there and will probably hate G20. Unless the Millitean is all powerful and always win you won't ever be happy :/
  
  In fact there's a lot of missions in G20 where they just force you to do 1's against the NPC's.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2015-12-22 16:46
  Okay, I thought it was that she was trying to make us take the place of her entire people so they could come back to life.
  I mean, who knows what the potential of that whole compass thing was.
  
  For a "you must lose" fight, I still prefer this over the whole Ruairi thing.
  I mean, at least she didn't put up lv3 passive defenses and summon 4 clones of herself to chase us around.
  Even if it doesn't make sense, according to the gameplay, if the story calls for us to lose, then we gotta put on our best pouty-face and lie on the ground. (pain)
  We can't really die, but we sure can lose. I guess Nao stones dont' exist in cutscenes.
  
  
  Gotta say, I wonder what the whole mutiny was about.
  I couldn't find a reason.
  
  Was the father just a total dick or...
• Qnjo wrote on 2015-12-22 16:49
  Okay, that was a nice cutscene to finish a rather pointless loop of identical quests. Really now, this time could've been used to bring up some details of the story, which are left entirely to players' assumptions. Not to mention the lore is all over the place. Partholonians travel to Erinn by boat - except they are supposed to be the naves of Erinn - an entire world, not a continent you can reach by sailing. And then the announcement mentions a mysterious Milletian - could it be Laisdfgh? She does have some qualities that fit very well but it would make even bigger mess.
  tl;dr - I'm used to devcat retconning things by now, but this time they can't even stay consistent within a single, short storyline.
  
  And let me agree about Laicvbnm's voice actress; she did great job. I was hoping to see her mentioned in credits but no. Anyone knows her name?
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-12-22 16:56
  Well by this point I'm past the point of caring about devcat making much coherent sense in their stories. They've always been all over the place in it so I don't really pay much attention on it and instead focus on what the story tries to do rather than what it doesn't do or doesn't fit.
  
  Expecting devcat to make sense and be coherent in their storylines with so many switching directors is just going to set yourself up for disappointment as they have nobody managing the storyline or lore.
  
  You may as well look at each story they do with a fresh plate in mind, unless they have specific storylines that tie with one another like how each Chapter tends to flow together but doesn't necessarily match the other chapters story wise.
  
  Or you can be like Tetosan who loves plot holes like this so they can feel free to imagine how everything ties in together on their own and make up their own story/timeline instead of having a spoonfed story.
  
  

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  Gotta say, I wonder what the whole mutiny was about.
  I couldn't find a reason.
  
  Was the father just a total dick or...

  
  
  That's a good question. I'm just going to guess the father was a total dick >.>
• Kapra wrote on 2015-12-22 16:57

  Quote from Qnjo;1291937:

  Partholonians travel to Erinn by boat - except they are supposed to be the naves of Erinn - an entire world, not a continent you can reach by sailing.

  
  From what I understand of celtic myth, you can reach alternate realities via water. (Tory Island, Avalon, etc.)
  
  Why do people have the idea that the main character has to be immortal? That's rather arrogant. Even the great Nuadha has died before. Even in C1 there was mortal threat to the Milletian.
  
  What would you rather have in a scripted loss? There are games that make you fight a boss until you die and in the process you lose all your potions and consumable items, and only then do you find out you were supposed to die. Do you REALLY want that in mabi? I'd rather have scripted losses when you win, rather than sacrifice the story by never being able to lose. What a boring story that would be.
  
  

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1291938:

  Well by this point I'm past the point of caring about devcat making much coherent sense in their stories. They've always been all over the place in it so I don't really pay much attention on it and instead focus on what the story tries to do rather than what it doesn't do or doesn't fit.

  
  Good points.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2015-12-22 17:36
  Yeah all the Da Capo missions are very very similar.
  The only differences are the text that Meryl says when boarding the boat and before starting the Painting or Harp minigames.
  
  So if you get the barrel one, there's almost no difference whatsoever. (since she's not there to comment on the barrel thing)
  
  [SPOILER="Meryl's Harp Comments"]Reunion:
  

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  *DANCETIME*
  

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  Da Capo #1:
  

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  *DANCETIME*
  

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  Da Capo #2:
  

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  *DANCETIME*
  

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  Da Capo #3:
  

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  *MYLEGSAREGETTINGTIRED*
  

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  Da Capo #4 (Final):
  

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  *W A S D SPACE SPACE SPACE SPACE*
  

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  [/SPOILER]
  
  Wow, that took a while to put together, and that's just the Harp comments. @_@
  
  Anyways, most people will get a hodgepodge of Harp/Barrels/Painting minigames.
  But Meryl also has unique comments for each Painting puzzle minigame on Reunion/Da Capo 1/2/3/4.