[KR] Mabinogi Reborn // 14th of January, 2016

• Kapra wrote on 2016-01-16 09:42
  Well that makes me mad. I wanted them to make dungeons less linear, not more linear. There are no multiple doorways anymore. That was what was fun about dungeons dammit. Might as well be a shadow mission.
• Syliara wrote on 2016-01-16 10:15

  Quote from Kapra;1292842:

  So the new potions increase success rate? Are they all made with potion making? (I hope that's the way to obtain them at least. . .)
  
  I wonder if any enchants or items were removed. . . I hope not.
  
  
  
  Halos are obtained through the KR referral system. Also the Halo isn't a hat or item, its something completely different. There's a thread on it in Mabidata detailing the system and its rewards but the website is currently down so I'll link it here later.

  
  
  Oh I know, its just that the halo color was conveniently the same red as the red upgrade color so it was just wishful thinking.
• Rynn wrote on 2016-01-16 16:59
  Heroic ES from rundal!
  Also Steady (the one with +2 prod quality).
• Tropa wrote on 2016-01-16 17:41

  Quote from Cookies;1292852:

  Someone had uploaded what looks like a Ciar Advanced run after revamp (though title says alby?)
  Overall mob HP ranged from 5-15k, which is about what things have in elite. The minimap view looks bigger and the overall path of the dungeon seems to be circular with little to no dead ends, which is good and all but what about the robe drops :(
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BPhIx1ca24

  
  
  They still have long, pointless hallways and rooms with trash mobs.
  
  That's pretty disappointing.
  
  
  Well, does anyone have a video for the Heroic mode dungeons yet?
• Elvensky wrote on 2016-01-16 18:59

  Quote from Tropa;1292857:

  They still have long, pointless hallways and rooms with trash mobs.
  
  That's pretty disappointing.
  
  
  Well, does anyone have a video for the Heroic mode dungeons yet?

  
  
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjGhBrwCfc4
  
  This is Rundal Adv Hardmode/Heroic. Monsters seem to have around 10k-15k HP. The boss probably has around 200k, and the adds have 30k+. According to the difficulty chart, this is the hardest dungeon tied with Peaca Abyss.
  
  I made a translated difficulty chart so people can easily see the difficulties of the dungeons http://i.imgur.com/dVBAi9x.jpg
  
  I have a question though, about these Adv Hardmode/Heroic dungeons. Are they entered through the hardmode room or from the normal room with the new passes?
• Tropa wrote on 2016-01-16 19:40
  I thought the heroic dungeons were gonna be in the same fashion as abyss dungeons.
  
  Well, this is pretty disappointing, we can still steamroll through these like nothing, how boring.
  
  
  At least the rewards are worthwhile, I guess.
• TheDarkPaladin wrote on 2016-01-16 20:31

  Quote from Tropa;1292861:

  I thought the heroic dungeons were gonna be in the same fashion as abyss dungeons.
  
  Well, this is pretty disappointing, we can still steamroll through these like nothing, how boring.
  
  
  At least the rewards are worthwhile, I guess.

  
  
  unfortunately, that "steamroll" thing is the issue, they cant make it too hard or normal players would take hrs and hrs to clear just one run, but they cant make it too easy cus the end gamers will run them far too easily and quickly....
  
  i think the issue isn't that content is too easy, its that players can get TOO STRONG for the normal content
• sans wrote on 2016-01-16 20:55

  Quote from TheDarkPaladin;1292862:

  unfortunately, that "steamroll" thing is the issue, they cant make it too hard or normal players would take hrs and hrs to clear just one run, but they cant make it too easy cus the end gamers will run them far too easily and quickly....
  
  i think the issue isn't that content is too easy, its that players can get TOO STRONG for the normal content

  
  
  I remember back then when runs like Glowing Gargoyle Statue took an hour or so because the mobs were quite overwhelming and we had to develop tactics to bypass them. Now literally anyone can solo it.
  
  
  Anyway judging from these videos it seems you can't take more than 4 people with you?
• Snowie Stormflower wrote on 2016-01-16 21:24

  Quote from sans;1292864:

  Anyway judging from these videos it seems you can't take more than 4 people with you?

  
  
  I'm pretty sure this point in the first post counts for almost every Uladh dungeon:
  
  

  Quote from Rixx;1292677:

  Participant limiting Dungeon Passes are removed, you can enter new Dungeon freely upto 4 people.

• sans wrote on 2016-01-16 21:47

  Quote from Snowie Stormflower;1292866:

  I'm pretty sure this point in the first post counts for almost every Uladh dungeon:

  
  
  

  Quote from sans:

  Up to 4 people? Did they lower the 8 down?

  
  
  

  Quote from Rixx:

  - Not sure. Someone will have to check.

  
  
  I'm trying to figure out whether you can or can't have 8 or more people in a single dungeon with you anymore. I'm curious if mass raids are still a thing.
  
  What about Unrestricted Passes? Is it not 8 anymore?
  
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  Existing Dungeon Passes are no longer obtainable,

  
  
  Does that mean Trefor and Ranald don't give out beginner passes and field white spiders won't have Alby Basic anymore?
  
  Also, do any dungeon pass still have an expiration timer?
• Xeno wrote on 2016-01-16 22:32

  Quote from Elvensky;1292860:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjGhBrwCfc4
  
  This is Rundal Adv Hardmode/Heroic. Monsters seem to have around 10k-15k HP. The boss probably has around 200k, and the adds have 30k+. According to the difficulty chart, this is the hardest dungeon tied with Peaca Abyss.
  
  I made a translated difficulty chart so people can easily see the difficulties of the dungeons http://i.imgur.com/dVBAi9x.jpg
  
  I have a question though, about these Adv Hardmode/Heroic dungeons. Are they entered through the hardmode room or from the normal room with the new passes?

  
  
  Well this is pretty disappointing. I thought the new dungeons might be semi-challenging/engaging but everyone in that party is just 1 shotting every room. Super lame.
• Esileruf wrote on 2016-01-16 23:01

  Quote from sans;1292864:

  I remember back then when runs like Glowing Gargoyle Statue took an hour or so because the mobs were quite overwhelming and we had to develop tactics to bypass them. Now literally anyone can solo it.

  
  
  I spedrun Glowing Garg in about two minutes with guns/shuriken, probably could do it about as fast with my current setup of guns or shuriken with healing wand(shockwave imba).
  
  I mean the issue of getting the statues was shot when 5cm+ emeralds spouted like a fountain from events. I have stacks of gargs still. fucking stacks.
  I still remember trading like 3 or 4 Black leather LLBs instead of 400k to get a run for my trans on my old elf. I bought them not five minutes before.
  
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  I'm not really caring about the "difficulty" anymore honestly. The fact that I wont 2shot everything in AAHM/Alby Heroic after the patch is enough for me somewhat, and 1shot everything in Rundal or drop the hammer and fireball wipe Ciar, will probably have to do a bit more than that to actually clear.
  Final hit still doesn't beat mage in the sheer runpower for longer dungeons imo. And hopefully spending 20 minutes in a 4 man run instead of 20 minutes solo ends up with something instead of some gold, a potion, and the laughter track in the background that should be put into the game when nothing comes out of the chest. Or this(caution, soundbyte may be loud)
• Twin wrote on 2016-01-17 05:19
  [Image: http://postfiles8.naver.net/20150919_199/chlvnfmal_1442634784724X5pJ3_JPEG/mabinogi_2015_08_20_005.jpg?type=w1]

  
  
  NPC only armor?
• ironwoman wrote on 2016-01-17 19:26

  Quote from Rynn;1292836:

  If backbreaking/burlesque and amnesia are also there, it would be the perfect update.

  
  
  Looks like half of your wishes came true, Amnesia has been reported to drop from Rundal Advanced Hard mode.
  
  Update: So 7th step does have a subtly different glow than 6th step, showcased by this:

  [Image: http://www.mabinogi.pe.kr/bbs/data/free/7.gif]

  
  
  You can see a bit of spark around the hands.
• Zeo wrote on 2016-01-18 18:14

  Quote from Elvensky;1292860:

  This is Rundal Adv Hardmode/Heroic. Monsters seem to have around 10k-15k HP. The boss probably has around 200k, and the adds have 30k+. According to the difficulty chart, this is the hardest dungeon tied with Peaca Abyss.
  
  I made a translated difficulty chart so people can easily see the difficulties of the dungeons http://i.imgur.com/dVBAi9x.jpg
  
  

  
  
  The difficulty chart is a joke... Right? Because Rundal Basic are above Peaca Normal but if you compare the both... Rundal Basic is a cakewalk, pretty much.