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... Events List on the wiki front page that would show events and gachapons that are currently going on. ...
I really want this too! And I was working on it with the new front page, but I haven't touched this piece lately. It's been difficult working up the motivation when all I ever get is flak. :/
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... I even have other people coming to me complaining about this and I can't do anything about it even though I want to. ...
People really shouldn't be complaining to you, they should be complaining to me, or staff, or someone that can do something when it's out of user control (like the front page is). Please properly redirect them if you can!
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... but what really needs attention is communication between wiki members, wiki viewers, and Mabinogi players who might not be currently using the wiki for whatever reason. I understand that it might be easier said than done, but I hope you can consider what I have said.
Like, I get this, I really get this. We have the forum for this but it's laughably dead, unused, and useless. As your yourself have said several times "I don't want to have to make an account for it" or even come to IRC for that. I imagine many others have the same opinion. Years ago Khenta and I were trying to convince saiyr to agree to setting up and using AWC Forum, a forum extension for MediaWiki, but it's unmaintained. Unfortunately, all forum extensions are either crap, experimental/beta, or similarly unmaintained. Well, now saiyr is gone so I can set up what I want!! And I should definitely revisit this very soon, though probably WikiForum instead. LiquidThreads really isn't sufficient for in-depth discussion and definitely not project tracking, which is something we desperately need in an extremely accessible form.
Quote from Roflorz;1293392:
Information on how Synthesis actually works (which was removed b/c "data mining"), rather than that bullshit that's currently on the wiki.
Like I said in my original wall of text, this was not removed because it was data mining it was removed because it was the most scandalous time someone could post it. I mean, at least wait a week or two? Trickle it in? Is it really a great idea to shout "HEY NEXON I'M CONSUMING YOUR LEAKED SERVER FILES"??? Of course it's not. You want that information on the wiki? Make sure it's current both in generation and region and make sure it's presented in a way that doesn't look like a direct dump of their databases. I don't remember the formatting of the data offhand, but I think it was arguable? I think it was just some thresholds for NPC cost values (which are available of course) of the contents with lists of items it could produce?
We've long suspected that synth was based on item cost, it's not absurd to have tested a hypothesis based on it. Certainly it would cost a lot, but it isn't absurd.
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Accurate HP values for monsters (especially those with large amounts)
One can obtain this by recording damage done. Damage done is displayed, of course. It's not unthinkable to record a fight's video and add up the numbers if necessary. For things like Glas this is certainly more difficult to argue, you would need a 100% injury setup (which I think is possible?) but no one is going to dig into you that far.
For smaller HP values, much more common, one can use a min>max weapon. You can simply record the number of hits, and when it looks like your next hit will kill it, switch to a lower damage weapon, then a lower one, etc. You can get +- 1 accuracy from doing this. And, really, suspicious as it may be, wholly accurate values is no grounds for sanction.
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Skill information (e.g. variables that are not exposed in-game)
Item information (e.g. variables that are not exposed in-game)
You would have to be more specific. A lot of values can be calculated or estimated. Certainly we don't share the taste values on items and those would be useful for calculating NPC affection, but realistically no one needs the values themselves and I'm fine with not sharing them on the page. If you're a developer who needs them, you are perfectly capable of retrieving them yourself.
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Book URLs? (Though you could just wireshark it, wait... isn't that against ToS? can't do that then)
We do share these. I don't think you need wireshark to do this as I'm pretty sure there are internet access logs somewhere on your computer. Mabinogi goes through Internet Explorer for
everything so it would be somewhere relating to there. Probably some sort of system-level internet logs you could find through the system log viewer. At worst, you can do this by proxying the requests (hosts file etc) which isn't disallowed.
I also maintain their no sniffing claim wouldn't hold up in court if it ever came to it, at least in this case, since the book URLs (and many other things, especially now) are unencrypted and actually have nothing to do with their protocol. They don't own the entirety of your network traffic.
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Herbalism Rates (not on the wiki, but referring to how it was obtained)
This can easily be done with statistics. I wouldn't want to, but it can.
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Movement speeds? (Not on the wiki, but hell, almost all the wiki movement speed values are wrong anyway)
This is difficult because of lag, but not impossible. The movement speeds on the wiki are relative to human movement speed, I believe. That's the way it has to be presented even if they were accurate.
One measures movement speed by crossing a distance and timing how long it takes. One can time this accurately by measuring when the button's pressed and when it's released, though I'm not sure if this can be done without mods anymore? Maybe it can be done with DirectInput? If it doesn't require modification, it's acceptable to do, though. Then you simply have to compare the result times (preferably over multiple trials to smooth out the lag) to a base case, which would be human speed.
EDIT: I should reiterate that I don't care what methods you actually use (as long as they're truthful), just that these are ways you can defend your claims.