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sans wrote on 2016-02-07 02:42
Quote from Kadalyn;1293283:
some people are jerks and they get away with it a lot more on the IRC than they do on the wiki
So as soon as I try to change my wiki username someone immediately tries to impersonate the previous name... :srsly?:
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Snowie Stormflower wrote on 2016-02-07 03:37
Quote from ironwoman;1293658:
Ok, some information really need to be monitored.
I was looking over at the foreign contents section, and it said that the Enchant Expiration Removal scroll is created by Magic Craft. If you've been following Nation for two days, you'd know that info is false...
I'm sure there are plenty of errors in other sections, we should probably do like a sweep of error checks.
Well, no matter how much we look around, there'll usually be a mistake or two somewhere, or something that can be improved. We just don't have enough people actively working on the wiki to afford constantly proof-reading everything.
That's why it's nice when people actually go and fix the mistakes as they come accross them, heh.
Quote from sans;1293659:
So as soon as I try to change my wiki username someone immediately tries to impersonate the previous name... :srsly?:
Well at least we dealt with that rather quickly, didn't we?
But hey, be glad! You're worth someone's time for them to go as far as stalking your activities, it's an indirect compliment of some sorts.
The people who constantly try to put in an effort to bring you down are often hiding that they're much worse people themselves anyway, heheh.
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Rydian wrote on 2016-02-10 01:36
K, back.
Shoved the header into the table as Kapra suggested.
Will resume trimming weapon pages when I have the time.
<edit> Trimmed all the swords you can buy from NPCs I'm aware of. Are there any others that have way too much redundancy? </edit>
Should probably make one of the skill pages so there's an example at least. Will probably do puppetry first.
What about the exploration quest reward page? Is there enough of a reason to have the individual quest templates, or is there a way to update them other than by hand?
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Yai wrote on 2016-02-10 04:53
I have been working on a set of timers to aid with the front page redesign and also for a quick reference to players.
My old timer at
http://xerodox.com/mbt will no longer be needed if these ideas get accepted.
[Image: http://i.imgur.com/KnaBL11.png]
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X wrote on 2016-02-10 06:33
Quote from Yai;1293724:
I have been working on a set of timers to aid with the front page redesign and also for a quick reference to players.
My old timer at http://xerodox.com/mbt will no longer be needed if these ideas get accepted.
[Image: http://i.imgur.com/KnaBL11.png]
URL for anyone who wants to check out the page:
http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/User:Yai/Projects/Timers
Edit: It'd be nice if we could somehow make these into local-ish times, like the maintenance times. It's annoying for me to have to constantly go "Oh yeah this is three hours off..."
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Roflorz wrote on 2016-02-10 09:15
Quote from X;1293726:
URL for anyone who wants to check out the page: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/User:Yai/Projects/Timers
Edit: It'd be nice if we could somehow make these into local-ish times, like the maintenance times. It's annoying for me to have to constantly go "Oh yeah this is three hours off..."
Semantic Wiki, reporting for duty!
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Rydian wrote on 2016-02-18 11:47
Alright so I have the exploration quest list tabbed up.
http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/User:Rydian/Exploration_Quest_Dump_Test
Anything that can reasonably be done before shoving it into the existing page?
No way I'm editing all 610 templates by hand.
Also this page has a number of outdated exploration EXP lists.
http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Category:Exploration
Should the specific EXP numbers just be removed? There's "ways to gain x" sections on other pages, but listing the max and min numbers seems strange and can be misleading now (for example Exploration Quests would be 410-55620).
EDIT: Also, for the "talent" overview pages (light for Fighter, Puppetry, and such) I think it'd be better for there to be separate overview pages for the talents (Like "Puppetry") that contains basic info and links (building off of what's in the category pages now), opposed to expanding on and keeping it in the existing category pages.
http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Category:Fighter_Skills
Thoughts before I make redirect pages into the talent overview pages and junk?
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Kadalyn wrote on 2016-02-19 01:25
I've actually wanted to split the talent page up for a while but people didn't agree with me. :( (Forget who now.) It's the slowest loading page on the wiki though and one of the most frequently visited. I just added polls the other day though if you want input on it!
I think the exploration quest page looks great! Only suggestion I have would be to shrink the width of the Exploration EXP column to its minimal size to allow the description to take up the bulk of the space.
For min-max on the Exploration category page... maybe there's a nicer way to split it up, like group them into slaying vs collection quests? Or maybe group by enemy CP/etc if that can be done deterministically?
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Rydian wrote on 2016-02-19 04:32
Well I more meant how the main "puppetry" page is Category:Puppetry, whereas I think it should be just Puppetry for example.
As far as the talent page though, I'd be up for splitting that simply because it's a pain to load (which is saying something for a wiki page).
I'm against including numbers because they can be misleading, like 410-55620, but the only one above a few K that people will actually go for and do would be Lich sketching, so the numbers would give an inaccurate idea of the expected results.
Will reformat and update the quest list table now.
EDIT: I think the reason the Exploration EXP column is wide is because of the header/label. Not sure what to do there since the word "Exploration" should be there for clarity.
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Kadalyn wrote on 2016-02-19 15:35
Oh, well, certainly a page for Puppetry could include both its talent information and its Category: information.
Totally didn't read the headers but yeah I guess that has to be fine how it is then. If there's no way to spin the numbers to not be misleading I guess you can only remove it yeah.
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Kapra wrote on 2016-02-21 01:17
I don't mind the idea of making individual pages for each talents and moving the bulk of info there. Though I would suggest keeping a list of what talents have what skills on the Talent page, just not include all that other stuff.
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Konrad wrote on 2016-05-27 07:38
Wiki's been down for several hours. Which has reminded me about this thread. With that said, what's changed on the wiki since the creation of this thread?
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Kadalyn wrote on 2016-05-27 12:00
DNS is down for the main domain but the site is fine.
http://wiki.mabi.world is always available as an alternate address.
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Osayidan wrote on 2016-05-28 12:08
Quote from Kadalyn;1295869:
DNS is down for the main domain but the site is fine. http://wiki.mabi.world is always available as an alternate address.
I remember troll-buying mabinogi.world some time ago, it's expired but still on my account. If you want it transferred to you PM me, I have it unlocked and transfer auth code is ready.
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Rydian wrote on 2016-05-28 20:33
Quote from Konrad;1295867:
With that said, what's changed on the wiki since the creation of this thread?
New forums, I replaced some old info with calculators (Renes rewards and dex->balance calculators), I put the exploration quest dump up (turns out the gold cost was in the binary data and I missed it and got bitched at so I had to go back and edit the script to draw that out), many upgrade paths were trimmed, and...
I forget what else is set to do because I got distracted with the knights system and copying over the new fragmentation info and junk.
[SIZE="1"]Still waiting on timezone/JS fixes for the timers for the new front page, both of those subjects are things I'm kind of useless in though.[/SIZE]