Mabinogi World Wiki Discussion

• Kadalyn wrote on 2016-02-03 01:45
  So I've been looking into forum extensions and WikiForum has enough of what I want that I'm fine with it. But wait there's more!! You'll have to see here!
  
  Also updated front page with some suggestions from Hanae. I want to change the colour scheme but I dunno what to. Maybe someone with a better sense of it could give it a look? There's a memory leak I want to work out before clearing out the front page for this, also need to look into why moment.tz doesn't seem to be always loading in time (that's what you were seeing, Kapra), and some other little things. But I think it's looking good!
  
  Rydian I've actually become quite attached to your current events template. I want to automate it but I think I want to use your format instead of a ticker. However I think it might scroll between events and a maintenance/update notice if one is upcoming and possibly webshop sales. (If you wanna design those views too that would be awesome. <3) Which means I want to change the "Events" title to "Current Events" I think.
• Rydian wrote on 2016-02-03 07:41
  - Handing enchant data looks... tedious.
  
  
  - The mini weather resize issue's fixed on my end. However a lot of people aren't aware of what the mini weather thing is for, perhaps a little label on top stating something like "Best Weather For Activities" would point it out. Also "Ovens" could probably be replaced with "Cooking".
  
  
  - The whole thing is still getting stuck to the right of the header image, sticking some linebreaks after the current intro text transclusion fixes that... but limiting the header width to 1200 pixels or so (blue border given for clarity in the shot) makes it wrap low enough without sticking extra linebreaks or positioning while shortening the text.
  
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  - As far as upcoming maints, I think a separate little warning when they're upcoming would be best, something that won't show up otherwise and won't block other info. We're sometimes warned up to a week in advance, and a week of a warning replacing other things (even swapping back and forth) would be annoying. Maints happen one at a time so a single warning should be all that's needed.
  
  

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  Could probably make the background of the warning change color depending on how close the maint is, going faint red/pink when it's less than 12 hours away or something. Of course with proper sizing/formatting, for this preview stuff I'm just hardcoding crap in for the screenshots.
  
  
  - For sales I'm hesitant on them being added to begin with. A lot of people like knowing what sales are going on or when a new gacha comes out, but it seems a little too... advertise-y. They're listed in the game news anyways.
• Kadalyn wrote on 2016-02-03 08:07
  Ovens actually means alchemy ovens, so I guess that is a problem! I don't think cooking is affected by rain?
  
  Feel free to make any changes to my page.
  
  My idea for the swapping maints thing wouldn't be like a week in advance, it'd only show up like maybe 12 hours in advance? And it'd have the same arrows as the weather forecast so you can scroll through stuff manually. It'd swap normally but when it was counting down the last some seconds it would lock there until maint. Then during maint it would show like how long it's expected to last and stuff. Even if we used a separate box for it, I wouldn't want it to be constantly showing, it would definitely have to be more limited like <= 24 hours.
  
  I should mention the point of the automation is to allow players to add entries with date/time and not have to worry about when it should be displayed and when it should be taken down. It can also handle things like "event ending soon!!" or highlighting the end day when it's the day of, or things like that, without users having to deal with it.
  
  Is advertisy bad though? I mean if it's useful I think it'd be nice. I know I always put off buying pets...
• Kadalyn wrote on 2016-02-04 01:50
  Set up SocialProfile and WikiForum. If you're wondering where your user page went, SocialProfile defaults User:xyz to the social profile page now, but you can change it to default to wiki home for your user page by clicking the big orange button. To see other people's pages you can click the last link in the list of links at the top of that page now.
  
  I'll be closing the old forum soon, dunno exactly when yet.
• Rydian wrote on 2016-02-04 07:06
  Oh right, they put alchemy stuff in Emain.
  
  Are time zones an important thing for the maintenance messages? Nexon recognizes that the NA server is played from more regions and includes AUS and HONHON time info, but whether the notice on the wiki should go that far, stick with Eastern/Pacific, or only mention the base time zone I'm not sure. Would it be simple enough to make an overlay that will display various common time zones upon hovering over the time?
  
  Missing pet sales too late, I can understand that. Friend of mine was debating on getting the 9-tailed fox (on the first run) too long, finally decided to get it and found it had been removed a few hours earlier. In this case they should have a slightly different look than the events. The start date doesn't really matter for them (since it's not a progress-based thing like many events), the end date is what matters and the page should sort chronologically from first ending.\
  
  Needs some positioning work and stuff but...
  
  

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  http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/User:Rydian/Main_Page_Merge
• Qnjo wrote on 2016-02-04 11:46

  Quote from Rydian;1293591:

  Are time zones an important thing for the maintenance messages?]

  
  As a European, I really appreciate these. With all disadvantages of playing from over the ocean, this little bit of recognition is a really nice touch. I like the idea of popping up upon hovering to keep things sleek.
• Yai wrote on 2016-02-04 14:25
  While not necessary for those who are well informed about their timezone difference to NA, quite a few people rely on the multiple timezones Nexon provides on their notices. This is especially helpful nowadays as Europeans now have different daylight savings windows to America (due to USA changing theirs a few years back) and that can get confusing during the few weeks where they don't match.
  
  I think it is definitely worth adding a way to view EST / UTC as well, maybe as a hover as you suggested. A lot of people will appreciate that.
• Kadalyn wrote on 2016-02-04 22:06
  NZ has a different daylight savings calendar too, yet the timezone template we use doesn't account for that. I'd like to fix that (with moment timezones) and possibly add a couple more.
  
  That said, I think the maintenance notices would be best done as countdowns. They shouldn't be showing up multiple days before so I think it will work well that way.
• Snowie Stormflower wrote on 2016-02-04 22:55

  Quote from Kadalyn;1293606:

  That said, I think the maintenance notices would be best done as countdowns. They shouldn't be showing up multiple days before so I think it will work well that way.

  
  
  It's not like Nexon posts these weeks beforehand anyway, usually the info about a maintenance isn't in the news section before the maintenance has already ended!
• Roflorz wrote on 2016-02-04 23:48

  Quote from Snowie Stormflower;1293609:

  It's not like Nexon posts these weeks beforehand anyway, usually the info about a maintenance isn't in the news section before the maintenance has already ended!

  
  
  Really? I always see the maintenance posts prior to the maintenance.
• Snowie Stormflower wrote on 2016-02-05 01:14

  Quote from Roflorz;1293612:

  Really? I always see the maintenance posts prior to the maintenance.

  
  
  I was referring to the news section on MWW actually, I should've been clearer, sorry 'bout that!
  
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• Kapra wrote on 2016-02-05 06:56

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  http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/User:Rydian/Main_Page_Merge

  
  I feel like we should move the end date to the other side of the event table and leave start where it is, or at least move both so they're consistent with the sales table.
• Rydian wrote on 2016-02-06 04:26
  Alright, did some re-arrangements and fixed some positioning.
• Kapra wrote on 2016-02-07 00:32
  Can you do this:
  

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  So instead of this:
  

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  It looks like this:
  

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  For smaller resolutions, so its consistent with the rest of the page.
• ironwoman wrote on 2016-02-07 02:23
  Ok, some information really need to be monitored.
  
  I was looking over at the foreign contents section, and it said that the Enchant Expiration Removal scroll is created by Magic Craft. If you've been following Nation for two days, you'd know that info is false...
  
  I'm sure there are plenty of errors in other sections, we should probably do like a sweep of error checks.