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ironwoman wrote on 2016-07-25 06:10
Finally stopped being lazy and made a new guide to compensate for my crappy and outdated old one.
In here, I use my gear as an example to explain what choices to make and why.
I also have a tier list.
Guide itself
Tier List
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Fabian wrote on 2016-07-25 08:28
Great guide! It's exactly what I was looking for. It seems having Oblivion on everything isn't the norm anymore.
Just got one question: why don't you have Beholder's swords in your guide? Just kidding. For reals this time: Why are elemental reforges "meh"? I remember rumors about them not working on newer content, but still, it was said that if you landed a triple 6 ele, you'd be the god of Mabi. It seems odd that they'd be considered "meh" nowadays. It's specially jarring since there's a huge difference between elemental reforged weapons and not elemental ones.
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ironwoman wrote on 2016-07-25 18:44
Having Oblivion is still pretty much a norm, but it's just that there are better options for prefixes for lots of things. For hats and accs, it's still very difficult to find better prefixes (especially for you).
Elemental reforges are pretty meh right now because it has limited uses. It's a damage amplifier in missions and MA, but you can do those without ele weapons anyway (and often more effectively). Only reason I would keep an ele weapon is if it is double ele. Ele by itself isn't anything noteworthy, but ele combined with Lance Charge Main Target or Smash is S+ tier worthy. Also ele will be in S+ tier zone once dungeon revamp comes out.
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Fabian wrote on 2016-07-27 00:20
I have a feeling I shouldn't have sold that oblivion dexterity wig...o_o
"especially for you" what do you mean? Am I such a unique player that nothing would better my gear or something? :birthday::skip:
"Missions and MA" does this mean Eles don't work in Raids either? If so, well, that sucks. I spent hundreds on my lance years back. QQ
I keep hearing about dungeons revamp. Did this already happen in KR and we are just waiting for them to localize it or has it just been announced? I'll have to check this out. Truth be told, I believe if they work on the older content, Mabi would be better than giving us new classes and generations. I know I wouldn't mind another Saga, but having older areas reworked and NPCs more fleshed out along with PTJs and the like would be the best thing ever. :D
ps: sorry for late reply. I thought this thread was in the question section for some reason.
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ironwoman wrote on 2016-07-27 03:10
What I meant by that is because the places the enchants drop in are places that you might not exactly like, especially to spam. Being back from a long hiatus means (in my assumption at least, would need to look at your stats to make a definitive statement) you don't exactly have the high stats and the for the contents that drop the enchants basically ask you to have higher stats to make them efficient runs.
Elemental reforges work in every raid except BD, WD and Girgashiy raids. It also works in the upcoming dungeon revamp so that's a plus.
It happened a while ago in KR servers and you can find all the info you need in MabiNation.
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bob wrote on 2016-07-27 03:15
you say oblivion is easy to obtain, can you give some insights on how to hunt gnus?
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ironwoman wrote on 2016-07-27 03:48
Quote from bob;1297052:
you say oblivion is easy to obtain, can you give some insights on how to hunt gnus?
Gachas pooped out too many of them.
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Fabian wrote on 2016-07-27 06:44
Quote from ironwoman;1297050:
What I meant by that is because the places the enchants drop in are places that you might not exactly like, especially to spam. Being back from a long hiatus means (in my assumption at least, would need to look at your stats to make a definitive statement) you don't exactly have the high stats and the for the contents that drop the enchants basically ask you to have higher stats to make them efficient runs.
It makes sense. I'm barely breaking 900 Str, still need to get that Bash and Fus-do-rah skills to rank 1. I'm kinda going for life skills atm to go with my newly acquired Archery skills. Do you think it's worth it to reforge an r1 Dragon knight bow?
I'll have to look into this dungeon revamp. :)
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ironwoman wrote on 2016-07-27 08:03
BDK bow is the most efficient option, but in general not something that you want to stick with if you want to take archery seriously.
Having archery ranked is fine, but you should probably ask yourself, "Will I actually use this skill set enough to justify making a whole set dedicated to it?"
Keep in mind archery takes fuck ton of investment. As a main archer myself, I'm not trying to shy you away from doing archery, but rather have you reconsider. Archery isn't a skill set that is worth investing if you're not going to go full try hard mode with it.
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callback wrote on 2016-07-27 14:41
If Bhafel is out of the question then CRC should be top priority, especially for human archers, right?
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ironwoman wrote on 2016-07-27 16:46
Yes and no, and that depends on your willingness to utilize campfire or not. If Bhafel is out of the question, then the crossbow or Salvation Bow is your next best bet.
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bob wrote on 2016-07-27 17:30
at what roll/point does the bhafel hunter consider garbage?
im scared of rolling a min and cry so im probably gonna skip making one.
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ironwoman wrote on 2016-07-27 17:44
I'm honestly using pretty garbage Bhafels myself. My ER one is 58 max and my ele one is 51 max. As long as it's over 50 max, I don't think it's a big deal since huntress basically covers it anyway.
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Fabian wrote on 2016-07-28 04:01
I like crossbows. What crossbow are we talking about? Is there one pre-r1'd? I ask because getting an item from nothing to r1 takes hundreds of buckaroos/tens of millions of gold. This is probably why BKB looks so tempting. :S
Also I'm branching from Combat/Lance/Fighter to Archery. I'd like to have it in my resume when I go applying for jobs and stuff. :D
Yeah, I'm not [at the moment] going to invest hundreds of dollars into getting the best bow out there, but I would like something to use when I go into dungeons/elites/lords/raids/etc. I have a lv20 magnum tengu glove I'd like to try out. Once I'm done with life skills I might go for the uber godly divine slayer of gods bow, but by then, something new might come out, so I'm holding onto my gear for now. :)
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Honey wrote on 2016-07-28 17:04
@Fabian;
i think ironwoman may be referring to the celtic royal crossbow. as far as i know, there's no pre-r1'd ones.
and about the black dragon knight's bow, it is pretty decent, but if you actually want to main archery (like end-game archery) it wouldn't be the ideal weapon.