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unnappasod wrote on 2010-09-09 13:47
i saw the thread about giants vs humans and i have the same question but no one really said WHY are they stronger than humans im not sure which to pick because giants dont have most of the fun skills or armor so why are they so good?
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abc33kr wrote on 2010-09-09 13:50
they have more str increasing skills.
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unnappasod wrote on 2010-09-09 13:56
and what about dual wielding why is everyone using it i thought it will double my dmg but its working the same as one weapon
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Intaine wrote on 2010-09-09 13:57
We have fullswing, 1040% dmg AOE anyone? :D
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mewball wrote on 2010-09-09 14:00
Quote from Intaine;150478:
We have fullswing, 1040% dmg AOE anyone? :D
yes plz :3
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unnappasod wrote on 2010-09-09 14:00
what?! i didnt get what you said there and one more question dont you lose all the skill bonuses after rebirthing?
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abc33kr wrote on 2010-09-09 14:13
lol no u dont lose skill bonuses, they are permanent.
dual wielding doubles when you are windmilling or smashing.
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unnappasod wrote on 2010-09-09 14:17
woah nice and is it THAT MUCH str bonuses?
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Crimmy wrote on 2010-09-09 14:17
We have more Str and also more combat skills. Humans may have Final Hit but they don't have Wind Guard + Taunt, Stomp, reduced Smash load time or Charge without a shield.
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Zid wrote on 2010-09-09 14:27
Quote from unnappasod;150472:
i saw the thread about giants vs humans and i have the same question but no one really said WHY are they stronger than humans im not sure which to pick because giants dont have most of the fun skills or armor so why are they so good?
Giants have better Strength gain and also more cumulative Strength from all ranked skills. They can dual-wield Blunt weapons instead of Swords. And Blunt weapons usually out-damage Sword weapons in similar Balance situations. IE compare an upgraded Gladius to an upgraded Mace or an upgraded Broadsword to an upgraded Iron Mace. Also, when a Giant has enough Dex, they can dual-wield upgraded (path 200) Warhammers. 6 max dmg less than a 243 War Sword, but with 17% more Critical and much, much easier to obtain.
Giant's Smash loads faster. Also, they can use Charge without a shield, so they can easily Smash after a Charge with dual-wielding or a 2h sword.
Finally, Giant Full Swing = eye-bleeding dmg with r1 Full Swing and a strong ego/upgraded, enchanted Battle Hammer or Broad Axe.
Quote from unnappasod;150477:
and what about dual wielding why is everyone using it i thought it will double my dmg but its working the same as one weapon
Dual-wielding doesn't "double" your damage in that both swords add up to one hit per click. Rather, you hit two times per click for two separate damage, instead of one cumulative dmg per click. It makes a lot more sense to see two separate damages rather than one big one.
This doesn't apply when using skills such as Smash, Counter, or Windmill.
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unnappasod wrote on 2010-09-09 14:32
THANK YOU now i finally made up my mind GIANT IT IS
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KEL331 wrote on 2010-09-09 14:42
Giants aren't better than humans nor are humans better than giants.
They both have their ups and downs
Humans are All-Round characters
while Giants are hardcore warriors.
Giants have alot of skills that raises your STR( not exactly sure but giants can get about 80 ~ 100 more str then humans can )
also they have better STR bonuses when you lvl up.
Dual weilding adds a bonus dmg to your wm
and Dual-Weilding can hit your enemy twice as many times then you could do with just one.
Giants can't dual-weild swords but they can dual-weild maces/hammers.
two-handed weapons gives a dmg boost to your smash skill
two-handed weapons' enchants have monsterous dmg ups, however most of them lowers your defenses.
But giants can equip a shield along with our two-handed weapons which will help cover the decreased defenses.
You can even put dmg rising enchants on your shield to increases your already monstrous dmg.
Also Giants' smash, compared to humans, take less time to cast
If you have a decent lag-free connection you can even do a 1hit-smash.
Giants can use assualt without a shield, and also have higher dmg % than a human's assualt.
They even have the Full Swing!!
Giants will have greater dmg than any human could dream of
However! Giants do not have a decent ranged attack method while humans do.
When you have to face an enemy that only takes dmg from ranged attacks giants are pretty much screwed.
BUT you aren't likely encounter them alone. They only appear in dungeons where Soloing is considered crazy :P
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Sayoko wrote on 2010-09-09 14:43
EFFFF are humans kinda worthless now other than for magic? Range is useless in HM shadow missions. I melee/alchemy on my human ><
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abc33kr wrote on 2010-09-09 14:57
Ya, its depressing to hear ppl say humans<giants. :/
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Crimmy wrote on 2010-09-09 15:13
Giants need more love anyway.