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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-09-25 02:05
You might wanna consider some paid births just to give you a head start. If you can hoard enough AP to max out WM with paid births, then using freebirths to get the rest of the AP won't take as long.
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Ailyene wrote on 2010-09-25 02:06
If you don't mind spending some NX, what you could do is do 2 rebirths in 3 weeks.
Basically you start at age 17 and card rebirth on the following Saturday, before age-up. If you do, you should be 18 after age-up. Then you wait 2 weeks to age 20 and free RB back to 17. Repeat.
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Kira wrote on 2010-09-25 02:11
Quote from Ailyene;164883:
If you don't mind spending some NX, what you could do is do 2 rebirths in 3 weeks.
Basically you start at age 17 and card rebirth on the following Saturday, before age-up. If you do, you should be 18 after age-up. Then you wait 2 weeks to age 20 and free RB back to 17. Repeat.
This sounds smart, but at the same time, kinda confused me.
Should be expected; I'm dumb as hell.
So, basically, I make a character at Lv.17, and then one week after its 'creation day', use a paid rebirth to 17 before I'm supposed to hit 18?
So basically, skipping a week of waiting? :O
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Ailyene wrote on 2010-09-25 02:14
Yeah, pretty much. You can rebirth any time on the day one week before your last rebirth if you do card rebirths (for example, if you rebirthed at 8 PM PST on Saturday, you can rebirth at 1 AM PST on the next Saturday), so you can rebirth before the 12 PM age-up. Then you'll basically go from 17 to 17, and then age up to 18 on the same day. Then you wait 2 weeks until 20 and rebirth back to 17, then repeat.
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Kira wrote on 2010-09-25 02:18
Quote from Ailyene;164896:
Yeah, pretty much. You can rebirth any time on the day one week before your last rebirth if you do card rebirths (for example, if you rebirthed at 8 PM PST on Saturday, you can rebirth at 1 AM PST on the next Saturday), so you can rebirth before the 12 PM age-up. Then you'll basically go from 17 to 17, and then age up to 18 on the same day. Then you wait 2 weeks until 20 and rebirth back to 17, then repeat.
Alright. What does this additional rebirth grant me?
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Ailyene wrote on 2010-09-25 02:22
Well, the more you rebirth, the more AP you generally get from levels right? This option is basically for people who don't want to spend $9 every week doing card rebirths, but if you don't mind spending $9 every 3 weeks, you'll get in an extra rebirth compared to people who do completely free rebirths. For example, if you get to level 50 per rebirth:
Free RBs only: 50 AP every 3 weeks from normal leveling (not counting age-ups/exploration/etc.); costs $0.00.
Weekly RBs: 150 AP every 3 weeks; costs $27.00.
This weird way of RBing: 100 AP every 3 weeks; costs $9.00.
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Kira wrote on 2010-09-25 02:29
Quote from Ailyene;164918:
Well, the more you rebirth, the more AP you generally get from levels right? This option is basically for people who don't want to spend $9 every week doing card rebirths, but if you don't mind spending $9 every 3 weeks, you'll get in an extra rebirth compared to people who do completely free rebirths. For example, if you get to level 50 per rebirth:
Free RBs only: 50 AP every 3 weeks from normal leveling (not counting age-ups/exploration/etc.); costs $0.00.
Weekly RBs: 150 AP every 3 weeks; costs $18.00.
This weird way of RBing: 100 AP every 3 weeks; costs $9.00.
Ah, I understand now.
Well, it seems I just have to figure out a conventional way of making it to Lv.50 per rebirth?
I'm hoping this isn't a difficult task. ._.
I mean, if people can do it weekly, shouldn't be that troublesome?
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Ailyene wrote on 2010-09-25 02:33
Just realized I made a mathematical error. Weekly RBs would cost $27.00 for 3 weeks.
As for leveling, it really depends on how strong you are/how much you're willing to grind. I find that ciar adv or Their Method are really good ways of leveling. Some people say Shadow Cast City as well, but I personally don't like that one lol. If you have good melee, Their Method is a great way to level since you don't even have a chance of dying in that one unless you lag or something...
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Kira wrote on 2010-09-25 02:41
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Just realized I made a mathematical error. Weekly RBs would cost $27.00 for 3 weeks.
As for leveling, it really depends on how strong you are/how much you're willing to grind. I find that ciar adv or Their Method are really good ways of leveling. Some people say Shadow Cast City as well, but I personally don't like that one lol. If you have good melee, Their Method is a great way to level since you don't even have a chance of dying in that one unless you lag or something...
Well, considering this is going to be a new, unfunded character, strength isn't something I'm going to excell at. If it comes down to a matter of grinding, it'll simply depend on how much grinding I'll have to do. ._.
If I take the 'two rebirths in three weeks' path, that would mean I have one week to get to Lv.50, and then two weeks after that. So if getting to Lv.50 in a week, on nothing but perseverance, is possible without spending every minute of every day, I should be set.
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Richard wrote on 2010-09-25 03:10
Ok. Let's get this rebirthing stuff straight. Ailyene brought up a good method for people that don't want to commit to weekly rebirths but still want to stay ahead of the free rebirthing community. First, let's correct one of her points, the one example about 8 PM and 1 AM. That is false. After you rebirth, you must wait until the 7th day to rebirth. You can rebirth anytime on that 7th day. That means you can rebirth at night one Saturday and rebirth again the next Saturday in the morning. So here's how that particular rebirthing method goes:
1. You age to 20 at 12 PM PST on Saturday and rebirth to 17.
2. Next Saturday, you do a paid rebirth BEFORE you age up to 18 at 12 PM PST. This means you are still 17.
3. At 12 PM PST, you age to 18 and only have to wait two weeks to get back to 20 to repeat the whole process.
Also, paid rebirths are $8, $7.90 to be exact, because people buy the basic rebirth cards. That's because you are only looking to reset your levels. You could buy a premium rebirth card once to choose from a wider array of faces and hair, but the rest should be basic rebirth cards to save the money.
And about the AP situation that Ailyene brought up, it seems like that's for the more experienced player. Not everybody can reach level 50 every rebirth. You'll notice most only reach 40's, and some only 30's, if you read through a thread on here that talks about everybody's level goals for every rebirth. Another thing, she did say she did not include exploration, but she should have included it. Exploration is a big way to get extra AP. Most people get to 10 or 15 every rebirth and that's 10 to 15 extra AP. It is a lot and can really add up.
My advice is stick with free rebirthing until you can comfortably reach at least level 35 with level 10 exploration in a week. Level 40 with level 15 exploration would be ideal. I do weekly rebirths, and I always make my goal of 40/15. Also, it's not that much if you think about it. A small part-time job will easily pay for the rebirth in a little over an hour of work. Minimum wage is $7.25 in my state.
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Richard wrote on 2010-09-25 03:10
Double post. It's my BlackBerry's fault!
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Phanterz wrote on 2010-09-25 03:14
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If that's the case, I think I'll do that.
I've already spent $1,000+ on MapleStory, and have nothing to show for it (literally).
I think it's about time I play a game, and be financially smart, at the same time.
Thanks everyone for your help.
So in a nutshell, rank up Windmill, Critical, Animal Taming, then Refine? Then after that, it doesn't really matter as much?
In order of priority:
Windmill
Critical Hit
Animal Taming
Refine
Refine won't be necessary until you really need more DEX, e.g. trying to wield 2% balance swords. Already r1 combat mastery, and then later r1 weapon mastery gives 15% balance each.
So 210 dex to max a 0% weapon, which you will probably never use...
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And about the AP situation that Aiylene brought up, it seems like that's for the more experienced player. Not everybody can reach level 50 every rebirth. You'll notice most only reach 40's, and some only 30's, if you read through a thread on here that talks about everybody's level goals for every rebirth. Another thing, she did say she did not include exploration, but she should have included it. Exploration is a big way to get extra AP. Most people get to 10 or 15 every rebirth and that's 10 to 15 extra AP. It is a lot and can really add up.
My advice is stick with free rebirthing until you can comfortably reach at least level 35 with level 10 exploration in a week. Level 40 with level 15 exploration would be ideal..
If I can't get 75 AP per rebirth I think I failed O_O
The shadow missions and HM dungeons are EXP hoards.
40/15 is not hard to accomplish at all, in 2-3 days after your most basic skills are done with.
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Richard wrote on 2010-09-25 03:27
But you are considered one of the more experienced players. Kira will be starting on a new character and won't be getting into INT or ADV shadow missions, let alone HM ones, for quite a while. Kira also said he played very casually before. Who knows how much more he will play now.
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Kira wrote on 2010-09-25 03:39
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But you are considered one of the more experienced players. Kira will be starting on a new character and won't be getting into INT or ADV shadow missions, let alone HM ones, for quite a while. Kira also said he played very casually before. Who knows how much more he will play now.
Yeah, I'm pretty much starting from scratch.
Also, I did play very casually before. But that was around the time I primarily played MapleStory and WoW. (Don't judge!)
Mabinogi was always a game that had such high appeal to me. But it always seemed so complicated for me.
Being said, I never played it often. Thus, I didn't learn much, and am still considered a 'downright noob'.
I have money. I have time. I have motivation.
Being said, I'm going to do what it takes to do my best given my inexperience.
That's the only way to learn, right?
I suppose I could always make a character, freebirth forever until I've made enough money in-game to get fair equipment, and have acquired enough knowledge about where to level and such, and THEN consider making a paid rebirth character using this experience.
That sounds like a good idea to me.
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Phunkie wrote on 2010-09-25 04:30
I would stick to age 17~20 rebirths, simply because you never know when you won't be able to dish out the money for a paid rebirth.
Also, the aging AP bonus isn't so much a weighing factor. Age 10 may get 5 AP when aging, compared to age 17's 2 AP, but what is 3 AP really? Sure, it may stack up over time, but...
Paid -> (3 weeks) -> aging AP bonus = 15 AP
Free -> (3 weeks) -> aging AP bonus = 6 AP
Not such a bad exchange, especially since you're paying nothing.
The real AP gain is in your leveling and exploration. The advantage of paid rebirths is that you get to do it more frequently, but nonetheless, you will achieve endgame eventually, no matter if you pay or not. It just takes more time.
Save your money and get yourself some nice pets. Also, do the 17->(rebirth)->17->20 deal every once in awhile. You won't have to wait weeks to free rebirths, in case you lose your cash flow and it's more efficient than free rebirths.
Also, try to stick to one character. Do everything on one character. Elves and Giants are great, but it's hard to manage 2 or 3 characters. Pick a race you like and stick to 'em. With that said, practice on your first character. Don't bother creating a new one later, as all that progress would be reset.
Good luck!