Upgradeable, enchantable 2-handed wieldable by elves (A first?)

• Hei wrote on 2010-12-16 18:10

  Quote from Kenero;249816:

  Fine, I'll concede. There's nothing to be won here and no harm done.
  
  And I apologize for any hard feelings~

  
  
  I'm just saying :P. The difference isn't as miniscule as you make it out to be and the alternatives are better. There is probably a reason that those swords aren't that prominent.
• Kaon wrote on 2010-12-16 18:45
  I'll agree that .5 mag is really the strength of elves... but there are things you just can't range. And call it a hobby or w/e, but even tho I main range when I need to get things done, as an elf, I much prefer to max out melee potential. I don't really care about heavy armor, cause it's nowhere near the best damage setup, but.... a two hand sword I would love to have.
  
  Anyone have any info on the upgrades?
  
  
  Also, now give me a special sword I can dual wield o3o
• NotAnElf wrote on 2010-12-16 22:49

  Quote from Kaon;249862:

  I'll agree that .5 mag is really the strength of elves... but there are things you just can't range. And call it a hobby or w/e, but even tho I main range when I need to get things done, as an elf, I much prefer to max out melee potential. I don't really care about heavy armor, cause it's nowhere near the best damage setup, but.... a two hand sword I would love to have.
  
  Anyone have any info on the upgrades?
  
  
  Also, now give me a special sword I can dual wield o3o

  
  No, dual wielding crossbows.
  Or bowguns.
  Or a ballista
  )= <
• Mentosftw wrote on 2010-12-16 23:25
  ^ That's why elves go pewpew instead of just pew.
• Kaon wrote on 2010-12-16 23:52
  Screw range, I want swords and I don't wanna ditch my already leveled char to do it.
• NotAnElf wrote on 2010-12-17 00:06

  Quote from Mentosftw;250155:

  ^ That's why elves go pewpew instead of just pew.

  
  
  Elves need to go pewpew pewpew
  or PEWPEW.
• Xemnas wrote on 2010-12-17 00:28

  Quote from NotAnElf;250199:

  Elves need to go pewpew pewpew
  or PEWPEW.

  
  
  Giants go POW
  ........
  ................
  ....................
  
  POW
• Mentosftw wrote on 2010-12-17 00:41
  Well elves also go SHAZAM! Since they have so much mojo points.
• krpr wrote on 2010-12-17 01:01

  Quote from Kaon;250188:

  Screw range, I want swords and I don't wanna ditch my already leveled char to do it.

  
  
  they should've made this into the elven dual wield weapon. Kinda looks fitting
  http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Viseo%27s_Bronze_Mirror_Blade
  
  
  till then, goddess obsidian cymbals :awesome:
• Kaon wrote on 2010-12-17 01:59

  Quote from krpr;250247:

  they should've made this into the elven dual wield weapon. Kinda looks fitting
  http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Viseo%27s_Bronze_Mirror_Blade
  
  
  till then, goddess obsidian cymbals :awesome:

  
  
  
  I agree and... no, wyllow horn puppets o3o
• Justified wrote on 2010-12-17 02:00

  Quote from Kenero;249772:

  Oh no, I'm quite aware of their load time, however what I am trying to argue is that it's unfair. Even if Elves takes 2.5 second smash, the ability to wear heavy armor and two-handed weapons can make them do the SAME damage (600% smash damage) since they can use the same enchants (Avenger Darkness) for heavy armor now and now can use two-handed enchants (Crocodile, Lich). They essentially can match human/giant damage in melee two-handed combat, despite the .5 longer smash time with the gear and proper enchants.

  
  
  Crocodile = 20 Str if Giant or Giant-Allied
  Lich = 30 Str if Final Hit Rank 5+
  Necromancer = 20 Str if Wind Guard Rank 5+ / 18-22 Str if Final Hit Rank 5+
  
  Even with the ability to use a 2H, they still can't use the best enchants available. So regardless of load time, they still can't compete at all in DPS or single-hit damage, even if they somehow had the same amount of Str.
• Mentosftw wrote on 2010-12-17 02:02
  What's with everyone fussing over dual wield weapons?
  
  Why not go defensive instead?
  
  Dual wield shields go!
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-12-17 02:14
  Just wondering, would elves get "if giant allied" bonus if the account is allied with giants?
  
  I was wondering if enchants go with the same principle as how elves can get ally giant achievement.
• Justified wrote on 2010-12-17 02:19

  Quote from abc33kr;250347:

  Just wondering, would elves get "if giant allied" bonus if the account is allied with giants?
  
  I was wondering if enchants go with the same principle as how elves can get ally giant achievement.

  
  
  I have an Untamed Crocodile Fishing Rod for my elf and it doesn't get the bonus.
• Kaon wrote on 2010-12-17 02:28
  Yeah I've tested it as well lol. / wanted to use blunt >.>