"God" and Religion.

• Cannibal wrote on 2010-05-04 03:26
  What are your views on religion, and more importantly, "God"?
  
  I've never practiced religion formally, and I only remember going to church a few times as a child, and for weddings and such. I don't see a need in having a set religion, but I can't exactly explain what that means to me.
  
  As for the whole God subject (pertaining to Christianity and related religions), I've got that all figured out. Here's my thing:
  Why create man, give him free will, but then make it so that, "If you don't worship me, you'll suffer for all eternity..."(Now, I haven't studied the Bible, or anything like that, but is that not pretty much what it's all about?)Is that not cruel?
  
  After deciding myself that it was, I realized that believing in something bigger and more mighty than us just wasn't for me. I can't grasp the concept of something that has never showed itself, and nobody seriously, honestly, 100% knows exists.
  
  I know people say things like, "Well, you can't see black holes, but you know they're there, right?"
  That's because it can be proven. I simply reply with, "Please, prove to me that your God exists, give me evidence, and I'll change everything I believe."
  
  I know all of that up there probably doesn't make any sense to any of you, but you get the main question. So, what about God and Religion?
• Cucurbita wrote on 2010-05-04 03:31
  Oh no.
  
  inb4lock.
  
  I thought religious debates were banned.
• Cannibal wrote on 2010-05-04 03:31
  OH YES. IT HAS TO HAPPEN.
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-04 03:32
  Oh boy this is gonna be trouble.
  
  I do not believe in God, or a higher power. I think that evolution (is proven) is natural and putting God up on a pedestal is just an explanation for the unknown. The Bible talks about all these morals but does anybody really follow them? No. I could also bring up corruption and the crusades against the church's enemies and also forcing other countries into their religion through missionaries. Yeah.... no thanks. I've been to church maybe 3 times, and I found it extremely boring and they try and milk your money so bad!! The priest didn't even make sense and I zoned out after 5 seconds mostly cause I had no idea what he was talking about.
• Criticalxhit wrote on 2010-05-04 03:32
  Well, if you read the Same-Sex Marriage Debate thread, you'll probably know I'm Christian (not a certain denomination). If this thread goes off topic...
  As for your questions, I'm too tired to write another essay for you... maybe Trigger will :P Maybe tomorrow
  
  EDIT:I already have a few things to say after reading the posts that Ninja'd me, but I won't comment until tomorrow...
• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2010-05-04 03:34

  Quote from kitaek27;27747:

  Oh no.
  
  inb4lock.
  
  I thought religious debates were banned.

  
  These never go well
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-05-04 03:35
  If you do not worship the one and only god, the almighty Flying Spaghetti Monster, you will be going to hell. End of story.
• Cannibal wrote on 2010-05-04 03:36
  Oh man, the Flying Spaghetti Monster...Reminds me of the Myspace pandemic.
• Andy-Buddy wrote on 2010-05-04 03:36
  I see it as 1 of 4 different possibilities.
  
  1. God doesn't exist.
  2. God exists, but doesn't act. (That's in its own way, sort of evil.)
  3. God exists, but has no power. (Not all powerful as everyone says.)
  4. God exists, and has power and acts, but it is in a "mysterious way" that no one can understand. (Apparently affects believers and non-believers.)
• Cannibal wrote on 2010-05-04 03:38

  Quote from Andy-Buddy;27766:

  I see it as 1 of 4 different possibilities.
  
  1. God doesn't exist.
  2. God exists, but doesn't act. (That's in its own way, sort of evil.)
  3. God exists, but has no power. (Not all powerful as everyone says.)
  4. God exists, and has power and acts, but it is in a "mysterious way" that no one can understand. (Apparently affects believers and non-believers.)

  
  
  I could probably live with both two and three. Two brings up what I said before, it just pisses me off that if he's there, he doesn't do ****, but expects people to get on their knees for him. Yeah, no thanks.
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-04 03:39
  Even if God like pooofed (cause thats what it would sound like:chomp:) in front of me. I wouldn't worship him o_o
• Iyasenu wrote on 2010-05-04 03:40
  I believe in God, but it's cuz i want to... and it helps me cope with things.
  
  Plus I loved my mom too much to think that she isn't where i believe she is right now.
  
  It's just faith. But that's all I can say about religion.
  Nothing can change my views.
  But I don't really share them with others. There's a word for what i feel...
  The whole believing in my religion but not saying that others are wrong...
  
  I dunno, personal heaven. Go for it.
  It works for me, anyways.
  
  All I really have to do is be a good person, hm. :p
  
  Just >.< don't talk to me about my religion... it's...
  it reminds me that i'm supposed to help spread it... but it goes against my personal convictions of letting people live believing in what they want to.
  
  I think of it like this: I believe in God and heaven and hell. I want to. So i do. Someone else has different views. I don't disbelieve them. But I don't try to talk to them about it either.
  
  I guess I like to hold onto my views, but keep from talking about them...
  It's just... easier?
  
  And I can never change my views. If only for my loved ones who're gone, then for myself.
  But for now, it's just the here and now, right?
  
  also, yeah I kinda fit into Andy's #4.
  
  I can't place it, and I can't prove it really, but I believe it still.
  It might sound foolish but... that's my view anyways.
• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2010-05-04 03:40
  If God exists, he's the biggest troll ever owo.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2010-05-04 03:41

  Quote from bradstrt;27776:

  Even if God like pooofed (cause thats what it would sound like:chomp:) in front of me. I wouldn't worship him o_o

  
  
  You can't.
  If God existed, he'd probably be omnipotent enough to know that you're just sucking up to him.
  
  Being true to yourself is probably more respectable.
  
  

  Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;27779:

  If God exists, he's the biggest troll ever owo.

  
  
  Seriously.
• Cannibal wrote on 2010-05-04 03:42
  If he exists, he probably just sits there all day and lol's at us...