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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2010-05-04 03:44
Oh and here's another thing
All animals like the cat don't believe in religion, because it's purely human invention.
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Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-04 03:44
@Iyasenu Go through a really rough depression and tell me what you think of God for putting you through that, tell me how he comes to rescue you. annnnd why doesn't he let others know that your depressed. Is he there to save you when and if you commit suicide?
Why does God create serial killers, rapists, child molesters, kidnappers, thieves, terrorists. Why did he even let the creation of the gun happen?
Either God is seriously fu#@ed up and is a huge masochist (is that the right term for someone who enjoys pain?) and gets off on the suffering of others, oooor has seriously fu#@ed up ways of working.
Not hating cause if you believe in God. Good for you. If it makes you a better person, even better. But yea.... :I
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Cannibal wrote on 2010-05-04 03:46
Or he isn't there.
But, if I were religious I would probably counter your creation of "bad people" idea with "free will."
****ing...That free will thing, just pisses me off.
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Cucurbita wrote on 2010-05-04 03:46
Quote from Saani;27784:
If he exists, he probably just sits there all day and lol's at us...
I've got a joke for everyone.
A very average man one day met God. They had a short conversation.
Man: Hey, since the scope of the world is so vast that we can't even comprehend it, wouldn't one second for you be like a billion years for us?
God: Something like that.
Man: Then, wouldn't one dollar for you be like a billion dollars for us?
God: Of course.
Man: Then, could you just spare me one dollar?
God: Sure thing, just give me one second.
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Cannibal wrote on 2010-05-04 03:48
I lol'd...
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Shanghai wrote on 2010-05-04 03:48
Quote from bradstrt;27791:
@Iyasenu Go through a really rough depression and tell me what you think of God for putting you through that, tell me how he comes to rescue you. annnnd why doesn't he let others know that your depressed. Is he there to save you when and if you commit suicide?
Why does God create serial killers, rapists, child molesters, kidnappers, thieves, terrorists. Why did he even let the creation of the gun happen?
Either God is seriously fu#@ed up and is a huge masochist (is that the right term for someone who enjoys pain?) and gets off on the suffering of others, oooor has seriously fu#@ed up ways of working.
Not hating cause if you believe in God. Good for you. If it makes you a better person, even better. But yea.... :I
It's not God, it's sin. Because Adam and Eve were tempted by the serpent, sin came to haunt us as the tree of knowledge gave them the ability to distinguish from right and wrong and stray from God's path, creating sin. God allowed it, but we would not be able to be as high as him. He treasures us dearly, and died to forgive our sins. That doesn't mean it's gone though. Sin is created by the devil, and temptation is one of them.
Yes, I'm Christian, but I don't wanna go any further than this because you guys are gonna bash me with your own beliefs and I'm not ready for Missionaries or anything so I can't counter your arguments. So, please, go easy~ :oops:
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Mrlucky77 wrote on 2010-05-04 03:48
Quote from Andy-Buddy;27766:
I see it as 1 of 4 different possibilities.
1. God doesn't exist.
2. God exists, but doesn't act. (That's in its own way, sort of evil.)
3. God exists, but has no power. (Not all powerful as everyone says.)
4. God exists, and has power and acts, but it is in a "mysterious way" that no one can understand. (Apparently affects believers and non-believers.)
Well, isn't God a diety? Dieties arent supposed to interact with the world (only a little I guess) and can only assist people spiritually, mentally, and psychologically. Doesn't faith, hope, and happiness from believing in a god fall into those three categories?
Also, this is pretty interesting.
Pascal's Wager - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-04 03:48
Quote from Saani;27795:
Or he isn't there.
But, if I were religious I would probably counter your creation of "bad people" idea with "free will."
****ing...That free will thing, just pisses me off.
People choose to be poor and get raped/killed/kidnapped/anything else horrible?
Quote from Shanghai;27800:
It's not God, it's sin. Because Adam and Eve were tempted by the serpent, sin came to haunt us as the tree of knowledge gave them the ability to distinguish from right and wrong and stray from God's path, creating sin. God allowed it, but we would not be able to be as high as him. He treasures us dearly, and died to forgive our sins. That doesn't mean it's gone though. Sin is created by the devil, and temptation is one of them.
Yes, I'm Christian, but I don't wanna go any further than this because you guys are gonna bash me with your own beliefs.
Lies no I wont. Incest is best then?
http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/apologetics/adameve.html
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Iyasenu wrote on 2010-05-04 03:48
Quote from kitaek27;27796:
I've got a joke for everyone.
A very average man one day met God. They had a short conversation.
Man: Hey, since the scope of the world is so vast that we can't even comprehend it, wouldn't one second for you be like a billion years for us?
God: Something like that.
Man: Then, wouldn't one dollar for you be like a billion dollars for us?
God: Of course.
Man: Then, could you just spare me one dollar?
God: Sure thing, just give me one second.
xD Nice
that was funny :p
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Cannibal wrote on 2010-05-04 03:49
Well, it's all his fault, anyway.
Quote from bradstrt;27803:
People choose to be poor and get raped/killed/kidnapped/anything else horrible?
No, people choose to be wrongful and bad...
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Hiccup wrote on 2010-05-04 03:51
Quote from Saani;27805:
No, people choose to be wrongful and bad...
But if God loves his people dearly, and died for us. Why would he even let the sinners harm those who are innocent?
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Mrlucky77 wrote on 2010-05-04 03:52
Quote from bradstrt;27791:
@Iyasenu Go through a really rough depression and tell me what you think of God for putting you through that, tell me how he comes to rescue you. annnnd why doesn't he let others know that your depressed. Is he there to save you when and if you commit suicide?
Why does God create serial killers, rapists, child molesters, kidnappers, thieves, terrorists. Why did he even let the creation of the gun happen?
Either God is seriously fu#@ed up and is a huge masochist (is that the right term for someone who enjoys pain?) and gets off on the suffering of others, oooor has seriously fu#@ed up ways of working.
Not hating cause if you believe in God. Good for you. If it makes you a better person, even better. But yea.... :I
Again, it's because he's a diety. HE CANNOT INTERACT WITH THE WORLD ALOT I GUESS. Just like Godhead Pickle Inspector in PS. He can only 'God: Fondly regard creation' and interact with problems that would result that would end the existence of the universe. (eg. DMK's Fill em with daylight ripped the universe apart, so GPI acted to save the universe.)
Quote from bradstrt;27807:
But if God loves his people dearly, and died for us. Why would he even let the sinners harm those who are innocent?
Also, the bible states that those who are wicked will suffer and regret their choices later on. This is basically like a game of life. Not the Life boardgame, but life itself. When people choose to not study alot in their youth (aka being evil) they tend to end up horrible in life and with a lot of life problems and stuff like that and regret their choices. However, people that study alot and do well in school and graduate (aka the innocent) are rewarded later on in their adult life (afterlife) and become truly happy.
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Cannibal wrote on 2010-05-04 03:52
Free will. Why mess with something he allowed?
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Cucurbita wrote on 2010-05-04 03:52
My idea behind "if god exists" is that he created the laws which we are all bound to.
The laws of physics and chemistry that make up this world. Its perfect, mathematical, and fits in together... locks in.
But he hasn't done anything since. Or perhaps he's doing something else. But definitely not doing anything with the humans of planet earth, only one of the uncountable number of planets out there that hold life.
But believers of God should be quite aware that half the stuff written in any text about religion is a nonsense put in by what people thought at the time. And its because of this that recent science challenges so many things in the bible, and its because of this that the bible contradicts itself so often.
The bible is a fine piece of literature with some excellent suggestions on better living, but not much more. Too many people have died or made their lives less comfortable by trying to follow the exact teachings of the bible.
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Andy-Buddy wrote on 2010-05-04 03:52
Quote from Mrlucky77;27802:
Well, isn't God a diety? Dieties arent supposed to interact with the world (only a little I guess) and can only assist people spiritually, mentally, and psychologically. Doesn't faith, hope, and happiness from believing in a god fall into those three categories?
Also, this is pretty interesting.
Pascal's Wager - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Read about it, but the thing about religion is, I'm too lazy to worship, and I honestly can't worship something I don't believe.