Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica

• Roy Mustang wrote on 2011-05-12 21:54
  Ya I think Episode 3 threw everybody through a loop and really signaled that this anime isn't what it seems.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-05-12 21:57

  Quote from truefire;443037:

  To be fair, I knew it was Mami's time when she was going on about how she'd never felt happier. I just had that sinking feeling because scenes with overflowing joy after scenes of indifference or sadness rarely end well. But man, I did not expect that. Nothing sums up "This is not your typical magical girl show" like the end of ep 3. I just wish my favorite character wasn't the one with whom the point was hammered home.

  
  
  In the beginning, I actually thought Mami knew what was going on, and was trying to trick the girls with Kyubey.
• Roy Mustang wrote on 2011-05-12 21:57

  Quote from Pride;443045:

  In the beginning, I actually thought Mami knew what was going on, and was trying to trick the girls with Kyubey.

  
  
  Mami is too innocent for that. Kyubey is such a troll I swear. Don't let that sweet innocent face fool you.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-05-12 21:58

  Quote from Mentosftw;443039:

  That scene made me go D: for 5 minutes.

  
  I was pretty upset for an hour or something.
  

  Quote from kingofrunes;443047:

  Mami is too innocent for that. Kyubey is such a troll I swear. Don't let that sweet innocent face fool you.

  
  
  I know, but like in the beginning...! D:
• Mentosftw wrote on 2011-05-12 21:59
  Sweet innocent face? That's his ONLY face. Except when eating.
  
  But technically speaking, he's not evil; he's just an emotionless being who sees in the in the larger and more practical picture.
  You could say he's on the good guy's side since he's looking for the wellfare of the whole universe.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-05-12 22:01

  Quote from Mentosftw;443052:

  Sweet innocent face? That's his ONLY face. Except when eating.
  
  But technically speaking, he's not evil; he's just an emotionless being who sees in the in the larger and more practical picture.
  You could say he's on the good guy's side since he's looking for the wellfare of the whole universe.

  
  
  He didn't care if Earth was destroyed though, as long as he met his quota.
• Mentosftw wrote on 2011-05-12 22:04
  Well thats because Earth is such a insignificant part of hte universe, as long as he could save the rest of it, small sacrifaces like that don't matter.
• wenbodou wrote on 2011-05-12 22:04

  Quote from Pride;443055:

  He didn't care if Earth was destroyed though, as long as he met his quota.

  
  
  That doesn't make him evil though if that's what you're implying xD
• Akemii wrote on 2011-05-12 22:05

  Quote from Mentosftw;443064:

  Well thats because Earth is such a insignificant part of hte universe, as long as he could save the rest of it, small sacrifaces like that don't matter.

  
  
  Making him evil, in our standards.
• Mentosftw wrote on 2011-05-12 22:08
  ^ Then our standards make us extremely self centered and selfish.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-05-12 22:08

  Quote from Mentosftw;443074:

  ^ Then our standards make us extremely self centered and selfish.

  
  
  Aren't we, though?
• truefire wrote on 2011-05-12 22:09

  Quote from wenbodou;443066:

  That doesn't make him evil though if that's what you're implying xD

  
  
  ^This.
  
  The clash with Kyubey was one of differing ethics, not differing morality. No different than the age-old "sacrifice of the few for the good of the many" or euthanasia arguments. It's an especially marked debate since our ethical stance would be grounded in our subjective emotions and the ethical stance of the Incubators would be grounded in their objective lack of empathy. If the Incubators found a solution for the universe involved sacrificing themselves and it was the most optimal one, I'm pretty sure they would not hesitate to take that course. His reactions and responses seem cold and heartless, but remember, his race does not feel; they cannot empathize with us, so rather than not caring, he simply cannot understand.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-05-12 22:11

  Quote from truefire;443077:

  ^This.
  
  The clash with Kyubey was one of differing ethics, not differing morality. No different than the age-old "sacrifice of the few for the good of the many" or euthanasia arguments. It's an especially marked debate since our ethical stance would be grounded in our subjective emotions and the ethical stance of the Incubators would be grounded in their objective lack of empathy. If the Incubators found a solution for the universe involved sacrificing themselves and it was the most optimal one, I'm pretty sure they would not hesitate to take that course. His reactions and responses seem cold and heartless, but remember, his race does not feel; they cannot empathize with us, so rather than not caring, he simply cannot understand.

  
  
  It still makes him evil in our eyes, no?
  
  At least of most people. A lot of people wouldn't make that sacrifice.
• Mentosftw wrote on 2011-05-12 22:12
  I laughed so hard when he said that emotions were considered a MENTAL ILLNESS in his race xDD
  
  Truefire already answered that; Kyubei's race WOULD make the sacriface because they are completely ammoral.
• Akemii wrote on 2011-05-12 22:14

  Quote from Mentosftw;443082:

  I laughed so hard when he said that emotions were considered a MENTAL ILLNESS in his race xDD
  
  Truefire already answered that; Kyubei's race WOULD make the sacriface because they are completely ammoral.

  
  
  People, as in us humans.