Mods? In my Erinn Walker?

• Kenero wrote on 2011-01-15 15:32

  Quote from CurlyBrace13;291401:

  I dont understand that.....Are you talking about removing the dungeon boss vid so that you get to the boss before others?

  
  
  That happened to me once. I had a supposed friend who uses the dungeon skip back in the old days run to the red spider who was at the door and he took the few seconds to land some initial blows to the spider so it was his finish, then leave with the AR 8 page, even though he promised to give it to my other friend.
  
  We had similar strength and damage back then, if only we started at the same time, I would have attacked the red spider first and probably got the last blow on it.
• Chiyuri wrote on 2011-01-15 15:35

  Quote from CurlyBrace13;291401:

  I dont understand that.....Are you talking about removing the dungeon boss vid so that you get to the boss before others?

  
  
  That's one of the effect.. but even if you solo the dungeon, you avoid a minimal amount of time by skiping over the entire video right away. That time even if really small accumulate overtime each time you skip another video using such a mod. This time can be used in activities that may bring the modder more gold and exp. A time a fair player with the same ingame abilities wouldn,t have access to.
• Shizuo wrote on 2011-01-15 15:38

  Quote from Chiyuri;291411:

  That's one of the effect.. but even if you solo the dungeon, you avoid a minimal amount of time by skiping over the entire video right away. That time even if really small accumulate overtime each time you skip another video using such a mod. This time can be used in activities that may bring the modder more gold and exp. A time a fair player with the same ingame abilities wouldn,t have access to.

  
  
  Actually, someone who doesn't mod (like me) can skip the video anyway. All you do is press ESC and then press OK when the boss video comes up and you can skip it ._. you don't need a mod to skip the video.
  Unless you meant something else...
• Chiyuri wrote on 2011-01-15 15:41

  Quote from muyo;291413:

  Actually, someone who doesn't mod (like me) can skip the video anyway. All you do is press ESC and then press OK when the boss video comes up and you can skip it ._. you don't need a mod to skip the video.
  Unless you meant something else...

  
  
  when you do that, it take a few seconds before the "ok" for the skip become enabled. The mod remove the video so you don't even have to wait these small little seconds to skip manualy
• Phunkie wrote on 2011-01-15 16:03
  IMO, it's not a big deal.
  
  Until they remove all the mods from the game, everybody should mod. It's like if there were billions of dollar bills falling from the sky and you never reached to take a single one. Sure, the money's not yours, but everybody and their mother is doing it, so doing it is not frowned upon, at least not in the popular sense.
  
  Modding is unfair to those people who don't mod, yes. But not modding is silly, especially since there are no cons to it and it only helps you in the long run. Unless your computer doesn't lag like hell, go for it. Make your life simpler, instead of lagging for 5 seconds every time you enter Tara. It's convenient.
  
  Sometimes you just gotta play dirty, instead of sticking by the rules. And trust me, Nexon has given no one any good reason for us to stick by their rules. So as long as you're not stealing money from them, as long as you don't start trouble with anyone in-game and as long as you don't ruin someone's else gameplay, feel free to mod.
  
  Again, not a big deal.
• Kenero wrote on 2011-01-15 16:06

  Quote from Phunkie;291418:

  IMO, it's not a big deal.
  
  everybody and their mother is doing it.

  
  
  

  [Image: http://www.freewebs.com/robertkearns/ATI%20logo%202.jpg]

  
  
  Personally I don't use mods. My computer handles mabi very well.
• Phunkie wrote on 2011-01-15 16:12

  Quote from Kenero;291422:

  [Image: http://www.freewebs.com/robertkearns/ATI%20logo%202.jpg]

  
  
  Personally I don't use mods. My computer handles mabi very well.

  
  
  It's not even about peer pressure.
  
  If you work without mods, then great. But if you do use mods, it's not the end of the world.
  
  That's all I'm trying to say.
  
  :)
• Chinaboy475 wrote on 2011-01-15 16:13
  lol I dont even know how to mod ... not one clue...
• Chiyuri wrote on 2011-01-15 16:16

  Quote from Phunkie;291418:

  IMO, it's not a big deal.
  
  Until they remove all the mods from the game, everybody should mod. It's like if there were billions of dollar bills falling from the sky and you never reached to take a single one. Sure, the money's not yours, but everybody and their mother is doing it, so doing it is not frowned upon, at least not in the popular sense.
  
  Modding is unfair to those people who don't mod, yes. But not modding is silly, especially since there are no cons to it and it only helps you in the long run. Unless your computer doesn't lag like hell, go for it. Make your life simpler, instead of lagging for 5 seconds every time you enter Tara. It's convenient.
  
  Sometimes you just gotta play dirty, instead of sticking by the rules. And trust me, Nexon has given no one any good reason for us to stick by their rules. So as long as you're not stealing money from them, as long as you don't start trouble with anyone in-game and as long as you don't ruin someone's else gameplay, feel free to mod.
  
  Again, not a big deal.

  
  
  
  I don't know about you but, I desire to play the game the way it is intented. My gameplay is and should be for everyone sicne we choose to play mabinogi: Mabinogi the way it is implemented with multiple people playing it. But right now, those "multiple people" are gaining advantage over others by ignoring game mechanic using mods which result is affecting how fast others gain lvl, AP, skill, training, gold and such.. In a multiplayer game.. everything is interelated. (not inbetween servers though)
  
  And personnaly, If I was playing a chess tournament.. I don't exactly like it that someone(or many) in the tournement make their chess peice move in inrregular ways to make themselves win. What's the point of playing Chess if it's not "chess" anymore? It's accepteble when both players accept changing the rules or are playing alone.. but in mabinogi.. there is no such thing as a "true" solo play. Everything you do affect your server.. and everything other people do affect your gameplay..
• Phunkie wrote on 2011-01-15 16:27

  Quote from Chiyuri;291427:

  I don't know about you but, I desire to play the game the way it is intented. My gameplay is and should be for everyone sicne we choose to play mabinogi: Mabinogi the way it is implemented with multiple people playing it. But right now, those "multiple people" are gaining advantage over others by ignoring game mechanic using mods which result is affecting how fast others gain lvl, AP, skill, training, gold and such.. In a multiplayer game.. everything is interelated. (not inbetween servers though)
  
  And personnaly, If I was playing a chess tournament.. I don't exactly like it that someone(or many) in the tournement make their chess peice move in inrregular ways to make themselves win. What's the point of playing Chess if it's not "chess" anymore? It's accepteble when both players accept changing the rules or are playing alone.. but in mabinogi.. there is no such thing as a "true" solo play. Everything you do affect your server.. and everything other people do affect your gameplay..

  
  
  The game is still chess. It has the same pieces, the same rules. Only the board is different. It's one of those electronic boards, you can say, that read your movements out loud: "A5 to B6" (if that move's even legal anyway).
  
  When it comes down to leveling and gaining AP, it's all the same. The real problem are those people who affect others' gameplay; river glitchers, for example. Someone modding their cutscenes out because they lag every time they come up, how does that pose a problem to you? Sure, they can get to the boss faster, but how often is that a real problem to you? When you run for FB10, is it not your pass and do you not run with trustworthy people? That's just one example of many.
  
  Infinite Final Hit or walking while dead, I would complain about stuff like that, but simple mods like showing the weapon's real durability, I don't see why it's such a problem. Some people wanna take care of their weapons better, especially after putting so much in-game gold and even NX (for spirit weapons) into them.
• Chromatic wrote on 2011-01-15 17:54

  Quote from Chiyuri;291390:

  Yea.. cause nexon has the power to modify the game that belong to the dev-cat in Korea.... Heck.. if you look in nexon website.. you'll see that they have 27 jobs positions to fill up..
  
  Also, to me you seem like the one who knows nothing about mods. Someone who knows about mod should have the brain to understand how some mods are gamebreaking.
  
  Dont talk like you know me from anywhere, i dont know you, you don't know me. Don't make assumptions about people you never saw prettier on your whole life. Hell we aren't even in the same server
  
  Let me list you some of the gamebreaking mods:
  
  Dungeon Map view: I like to play mabinogi as close to modless as it might be. I don't use this not even if i was paid for it. I can even upload my whole SS folder and you wont see a single dungeon with the whole map revealed
  
  Mimic Target Mod: Have to admit im guilty about this sometimes. I rarely do it unless it's a huge dungeon where its already a pain to go through without mimics. Also i only use it when i solo
  
  Dungeon Boss Video removal: Another mod i don't bother to turn it on, i like to watch boss cutscenes, some are kinda funny to watch
  
  True Durability View: I have this on but never paid attention to it. I always repair my equipment when i find it appropriate, not because of the true durability, It's not like npcs will break less if i repair the stuff at a certain true durability.
  
  Those are the ones so far I have experienced (not by using it but by playing accidently with people using them) that seem to still be working up to date. I think such things as long range Revive, Long range healing and most Dll mods had been removed since I haven,t heard or seen them in a long time. Which is also why I didn,t explain them.
  
  ^ i dont use any of them
  
  I may add that someone once told me how some visual mods can affect the market but since I don't exactly know visual mods for I don't use them nor see them, I can't really tell if what that person told me is true... It was something about how you can possibly change the look of your clothing to not need to actually buy the real item which may be a rare.. In the long run this could affect the market.
  ^ The times i do this, it's to test if i look good on that clothing, I end up in buying what i want <:
  

  
  
  my answer on bold
• Zid wrote on 2011-01-15 17:54

  Quote from Chiyuri;291427:

  I don't know about you but, I desire to play the game the way it is intented. My gameplay is and should be for everyone sicne we choose to play mabinogi: Mabinogi the way it is implemented with multiple people playing it. But right now, those "multiple people" are gaining advantage over others by ignoring game mechanic using mods which result is affecting how fast others gain lvl, AP, skill, training, gold and such.. In a multiplayer game.. everything is interelated. (not inbetween servers though)
  
  And personnaly, If I was playing a chess tournament.. I don't exactly like it that someone(or many) in the tournement make their chess peice move in inrregular ways to make themselves win. What's the point of playing Chess if it's not "chess" anymore? It's accepteble when both players accept changing the rules or are playing alone.. but in mabinogi.. there is no such thing as a "true" solo play. Everything you do affect your server.. and everything other people do affect your gameplay..

  
  
  There are other ways to ignore game mechanics that doesn't involve using mods or PEs at all. Some are just as bad or worse.
  
  Also, you ignore a good section of modders who actually have courtesy when playing/partying with others. Solo play is a different story, however it's still erroneous to believe that even that group is automatically full of jerks.
• Chromatic wrote on 2011-01-15 18:02

  Quote from Zid;291476:

  There are other ways to ignore game mechanics that doesn't involve using mods or PEs at all. Some are just as bad or worse.
  
  Also, you ignore a good section of modders who actually have courtesy when playing/partying with others. Solo play is a different story, however it's still erroneous to believe that even that group is automatically full of jerks.

  
  
  Know what's funny? you dont need mods to get into the river, and yet "ZOMGBBQ MODDERS!!!" and yet river glitching is one of the worst glitches around these days
• Chiyuri wrote on 2011-01-15 19:26

  Quote from Zid;291476:

  There are other ways to ignore game mechanics that doesn't involve using mods or PEs at all. Some are just as bad or worse.
  
  Also, you ignore a good section of modders who actually have courtesy when playing/partying with others. Solo play is a different story, however it's still erroneous to believe that even that group is automatically full of jerks.

  
  
  I never said I wasn't blaming those who glitch in the game. I dislike them as well. The topic simply was about mods which is why I didn't mention them.
  
  Ignoring a good section of modders? The moment you use a cheat to gain an advantage in a game with multiple players.. that's already a lack of respect for the other player and also lack of courtesy you could say... And like i said before.. there is no real "true" solo play in a game where almost everything you do can affect the market, the gameplay, the views of other people. Personally.. I see cheaters as jerks, it's far from erroneous of me to see cheaters in such a way. If they are going to mess up the game for their own little self or group, I find it selfish and annoying.
  
  Of course, don't misunderstand me. I'm not agaisnt every mods.. it's possible some don't affect the server at all. I don't mind those and will not care if you use them since their will be no change in my gameplay or the gameplay of my friends. I wouldn't call someone a cheater for using something that cause no cheating anywhere. I don't really care about the rules nexon or dev-cat or whatnot. I care for Fairplay and respect of other people's right. Which is something unfair mods break...
• Sedia wrote on 2011-01-15 19:43

  Quote from Chinaboy475;291425:

  lol I dont even know how to mod ... not one clue...

  
  
  Same. The only mods that I'd ever use, are to turn my horse into a pegusus (If there was one) and turn my elf into Yuna from FFX. Sadly, I never knew how to use them and even with a detailed tutorial, I'd still think it was complicated.