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Zatrox wrote on 2010-05-10 01:30
I remember for the longest time, that people have said 1H Ego + 222b broad was the best way to achieve the maximum damage output. Even after 600% smash for 2H was implemented.
Now that my base damage is growing rapidly, I'm starting to question my choice...
With Pot Poison, I have: 156 base max (with all equips/non-weapon enchants)
Maxed out Ego bastard + Shadow Hunter Spike War Sword:
Smash: 5 x (156 + 156 + 90 + 10 + 14) = 2130
WM: 2.5 x (156 + 156 + 90 + 10 + 14) = 1065
Critmill: WM x 2.5 = 2662.5
Maxed out Ego 2H:
Smash: 6 x (212 + 156) = 2208
WM: 2.5 x (212 + 156) = 920
Critmill: WM x 2.5 = 2300
If we speak in terms of HM-only monsters, where Critical is only possible in with WM..
it seems like an ego 2H, with a high enough base damage, will outdo a 1H :/
Even though its WM damage is lower, 2H still has stun advantage... now that I see the gap between Smash damages (and will only increase as one's base dmg. grows) I'm starting to think I've made a poor decision :/
So what was the reason I went with a 1H Ego again?
(btw: it's at 37 str right now x.x)
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-05-10 01:35
Ego 1h's have more versatility. They allow for PvP use and PvE use. Also, only the smash of a 2h is greater than the 1h. Plus, an ego 2h requires more money since iirc, it needs 40 Luck also to get maximum dmg. A bastard ego only needs 30 in all stats, being far cheaper(discluding 40 str). Other than that, they both have a lot of similarities...soz yeah.
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Archibald wrote on 2010-05-10 02:26
Just wait till g10 for dustin sword ego.
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Raj wrote on 2010-05-10 03:45
I'm sorry.
I can't read pro-ness.
But in my english, I find that it's all in your gaming ways.
Many people ego a Broadsword, and ultra-pro-ly upgrade another.
As a giant, 2h are extremely dominant, so it's only obvious that once I can actaully equip the weapon, I will ego it.
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Peter wrote on 2010-05-10 03:57
Quote from Archibald;32286:
Just wait till g10 for dustin sword ego.
Is the dustin ego supposed to be extremely powerful or something?
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Shironi wrote on 2010-05-10 04:15
More powerful than the two hander.
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Archibald wrote on 2010-05-10 05:59
I am currently smithing them each week also. Note me in game for yours.
:awesome:
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Zatrox wrote on 2010-05-10 11:01
Quote from Archibald;32286:
Just wait till g10 for dustin sword ego.
Not sure what Dustin has to do with any of this..
Has ~5 less max than 2H, and I'm assuming HM-only monsters meaning its extra crit won't help for a critsmash.
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-05-10 11:19
Quote from Zatrox;32500:
Not sure what Dustin has to do with any of this..
Has ~5 less max than 2H, and I'm assuming HM-only monsters meaning its extra crit won't help for a critsmash.
I think Dustin ego only shows full potential once it's 50 all stats.
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December wrote on 2010-05-10 11:26
I think in the end it its just versatility, as it allows you to equip a shield, which opens a whole new door when it comes to doing combos. Charge+Smash+etcetc
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Justified wrote on 2010-05-10 11:36
/does some maths
Maxed 2H Ego matches a maxed Bastard Sword + Shadow Hunter/Spike War Sword using Smash at 178 Base damage. After that the 2H pulls away as your base grows, but only at a 1:1 ratio (and you're already doing 2,340 non-Crit).
No matter what your base damage is, a maxed Bastard Sword and SH/Sp War Sword combo will always be 145 (362 Crit) stronger than the maxed 2H. Though, as your base damage grows, this becomes less significant. (200 Base damage is 1,030 [2H] vs 1,175 [DW], barely 10% extra)
It's mostly preference. Considering the stun time and splash radius, I would go with the 2H.
I believe G10 uncaps Ego stats to 50, in which case the 2H may gain an upper hand since they have a larger damage growth and the off-hand weapon when dual wielding is greatly restricted to upgrades and enchants.
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Archibald wrote on 2010-05-10 15:53
Dustin has higher max + higher crit at 50 stats.
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Chiri wrote on 2010-05-10 16:30
Quote from Raj;32323:
Many people ego a Broadsword, and ultra-pro-ly upgrade another.
Haha, no one would ego a broadsword.
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shzukahime wrote on 2010-05-10 16:40
Quote from Chiri;32543:
Haha, no one would ego a broadsword.
Broadsword as an ego is disgusting imo.
Use a gladius as 1h ego. :L
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Zatrox wrote on 2010-05-10 20:43
Quote from Archibald;32540:
Dustin has higher max + higher crit at 50 stats.
Link to stats? =/
Really considering breaking my bast now... bleh