G14S5 Seasonal Update Discussion

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Neko wrote on 2011-07-03 16:09

Quote from Kenero;495392:

Special Animation when your aim is at 100% is added for archery also-

i thought you can only get 99%?
Kaeporo wrote on 2011-07-03 16:11

Quote from Neko;498863:
i thought you can only get 99%?

In G14S5 the aim cap is buffed.

Finally... Range BUFF? (Don't get too excited elves...)
Max Aim % change
Moving target 90%
Walking target 95%
Still target 100%
*for both human and elves
Kenero wrote on 2011-07-03 17:09

Yea, the chart is basically Rank F pre-g14s5 to the new g14s5... it went from 400% to 600% at g14s5...

Dunno about what r1 AR damage bonus is, maybe 800%~1000% ? lol
Shirayuki wrote on 2011-07-03 17:18

Quote from Kenero;498894:
Yea, the chart is basically Rank F pre-g14s5 to the new g14s5... it went from 400% to 600% at g14s5...

Dunno about what r1 AR damage bonus is, maybe 800%~1000% ? lol

I think upgrading an xbow is really worth it in g14s5 then 8D
Kaeporo wrote on 2011-07-03 17:19

Quote from Kenero;498894:
Yea, the chart is basically Rank F pre-g14s5 to the new g14s5... it went from 400% to 600% at g14s5...

Dunno about what r1 AR damage bonus is, maybe 800%~1000% ? lol

That can't be right. At no point will Arrow Revolver have a 400% damage modifier, nor will the final shot deal 120% at any rank. The posted chart must reflect the G14S5 version of Arrow Revolver at rF and r1. Essentially, the damage output is lower near rF compared to our version while the damage output is greater at r1 compared to our version. Ultimately you're looking at 490% versus 600%. It's almost as if we're adding the damage from a sixth arrow into the volley.

Combined with the reduced stamina consumption (which is very helpful), it's just enough to make the skill that much more useful, without making it overpowered.

The ablity for Mirage Missile to slow enemies sounds useful. Anyone know how much it encumbers them?
Mjoshua wrote on 2011-07-03 17:19

Quote from Neko;498863:
i thought you can only get 99%?

Seriously... shouldn't you ATLEAST read the original post of a thread before you post on it...
Kenero wrote on 2011-07-03 17:27

Quote from Kaeporo;498901:
That can't be right. At no point will Arrow Revolver have a 400% damage modifier, nor will the final shot deal 120% at any rank. The posted chart must reflect the G14S5 version of Arrow Revolver at rF and r1. Essentially, the damage output is lower near rF compared to our version while the damage output is greater at r1 compared to our version. Ultimately you're looking at 490% versus 600%. It's almost as if we're adding the damage from a sixth arrow into the volley.

The 600% is rank F...

http://www.mabinogi.com/C3/News/Update.asp?mode=view&aid=12&ReadSn=4878852&page=1

And

http://mabidata.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=799&start=10

It seems like the damage gap between elven range and human range gets smaller. If the end total damage is 1000%, it will be similar to Elf Range Attack (since 500% x 2 arrows = almost same amount of time, 1.5 stamina elf use per arrow vs. 1.6 stamina human use per arrow ), but we're not sure if it is 1000%. It's just a theory for rank 1.
Kaeporo wrote on 2011-07-03 17:34

Quote from Kenero;498904:
The 600% is rank F...

http://www.mabinogi.com/C3/News/Update.asp?mode=view&aid=12&ReadSn=4878852&page=1

And

http://mabidata.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=799&start=10

It seems like the damage gap between elven range and human range gets smaller. If the end total damage is 1000%, it will be similar to Elf Range Attack (since 500% x 2 arrows = almost same amount of time, 1.5 stamina elf use per arrow vs. 1.6 stamina human use per arrow ), but we're not sure if it is 1000%. It's just a theory for rank 1.

Then what's the yellow chart represent?
radionoise wrote on 2011-07-03 17:34

Quote from Kenero;498904:
The 600% is rank F...

http://www.mabinogi.com/C3/News/Update.asp?mode=view&aid=12&ReadSn=4878852&page=1

And

http://mabidata.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=799&start=10

It seems like the damage gap between elven range and human range gets smaller. If the end total damage is 1000%, it will be similar to Elf Range Attack (since 500% x 2 arrows = almost same amount of time, 1.5 stamina elf use per arrow vs. 1.6 stamina human use per arrow ), but we're not sure if it is 1000%. It's just a theory for rank 1.

r1 is 700%
Kenero wrote on 2011-07-03 17:35

Quote from radionoise;498915:
r1 is 700%

That's a pretty big improvement then from the old AR rank 1.

I'm guessing the yellow chart is rank F AR before the improvement. Sort of contradict the wiki, but it's a possibility that the chart on the wiki could be wrong.
Kaeporo wrote on 2011-07-03 19:07

Quote from Kenero;498918:
That's a pretty big improvement then from the old AR rank 1.

I'm guessing the yellow chart is rank F AR before the improvement. Sort of contradict the wiki, but it's a possibility that the chart on the wiki could be wrong.

Turns out the yellow chart doesn't match the NA wiki or the JP wiki. Coincidentally I found that the NA wiki doesn't match the JP wiki. This skill is totally screwed. Someone must have access to its data.

Still nothing about Mirage Missile? I discovered that the initial hit deals 200% of your base damage at r1. I'll add it to the wiki.
Xentaros wrote on 2011-07-03 19:11

Range nerf?

Time to charge

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I don't care if it's a stupid range buff
If Elves Can't Run
It means simple death.

A buff on giants would be nice or at least wind guard.
Kenero wrote on 2011-07-03 21:09

Quote from Kaeporo;499004:
Turns out the yellow chart doesn't match the NA wiki or the JP wiki. Coincidentally I found that the NA wiki doesn't match the JP wiki. This skill is totally screwed. Someone must have access to its data.

Still nothing about Mirage Missile? I discovered that the initial hit deals 200% of your base damage at r1. I'll add it to the wiki.

The yellow chart is the before the improvement. The % on that must be correct since it came from DevCat themselves.

Still, shouldn't human rangers be proud? Now their main form of range is buffed up greatly.
sakraycore wrote on 2011-07-03 22:34

Quote from Kenero;499107:
The yellow chart is the before the improvement. The % on that must be correct since it came from DevCat themselves.

Still, shouldn't human rangers be proud? Now their main form of range is buffed up greatly.

AR hasn't been the main form of range for a long long time now.
Kenero wrote on 2011-07-03 22:40

Quote from sakraycore;499155:
AR hasn't been the main form of range for a long long time now.

I misworded. I mean their default form of normal range attack.

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