G14S5 Seasonal Update Discussion

• kevinXIV wrote on 2011-07-04 01:17

  Quote from Xentaros;499006:

  Range nerf?
  
  Time to charge
  
  
  I don't care if it's a stupid range buff
  If Elves Can't Run
  It means simple death.
  
  A buff on giants would be nice or at least wind guard.

  
  
  We dont care also to your giant.. what else do you giants want? when something is buffed, your race always wants to have a buff also.. go train your melee.. >.>
  
  we are training this AP hoar skill + life skills just to get a mediocre AR damage cause it got a nerfed + the bowmill damage is taken from barehanded damage output a long time ago..
  
  and yes its about time..
• Xentaros wrote on 2011-07-04 01:45

  Quote from kevinXIV;499302:

  We dont care also to your giant.. what else do you giants want? when something is buffed, your race always wants to have a buff also.. go train your melee.. >.>
  
  we are training this AP hoar skill + life skills just to get a mediocre AR damage cause it got a nerfed + the bowmill damage is taken from barehanded damage output a long time ago..
  
  and yes its about time..

  
  
  once you train this ap skill you only have two skills left to train
  and as a giant you have to train ALL melee skills in order to be effecient
  
  Are you some kind of dope
• Blassreiter wrote on 2011-07-04 02:08

  Quote from Mentosftw;495880:

  X.X MELEE BUFF PLOX!!
  
  Also, this 100% when standing still thing is gonna make zero shot and a certain archery combo WAAAAYYY too OP.

  
  
  Yes, zero shot is broken now. I don't know how many of you had R1 Ranged Attack but my range loads instantly to 99% even at Rank F. Or at least the enemy is stunned long enough for it to reach 99%. Not to mention Support Shot has a faster aim speed than regular ranged. With 100% it's GG. Final Shot is no longer Elf only.
  
  

  Quote from Mentosftw;496031:

  Hit from slow weapon, switch to bow and support shot, switch to slow weapon and attack, switch to bow and support shot...
  
  Yes but with the new update, it's inescapable without Final Shot or Final Hit. GG giants.
  
  Also, it would be pretty cheap on some mobs.
  
  What're you thinking of? Lance counter?

  
  
  I'm certain at the beginning when I'm hit by that slow weapon, my Stomp would have already torn you into pieces. Good luck with this. You can't N+1 or delay your combo with a Giant. They'll Stomp your ass before you can land that delayed extra hit. (or at least I do that)
  
  
  But overall the 100% is going to break zero shot. Seriously, zero shot already has instant 99% aim and it can lock easily. Support Shot does it better as well. Hope the 100% goes for Throwing Attack too. Missing a stationary enemy then waiting 7 more seconds to Throw another Javelin is much more painful. (A reason why Throwing Attack should not have a CD, or at least don't make it CD when it misses.)
• radionoise wrote on 2011-07-04 02:17

  Quote from Blassreiter;499357:

  Yes, zero shot is broken now. I don't know how many of you had R1 Ranged Attack but my range loads instantly to 99% even at Rank F. Or at least the enemy is stunned long enough for it to reach 99%. Not to mention Support Shot has a faster aim speed than regular ranged. With 100% it's GG. Final Shot is no longer Elf only.
  
  
  
  I'm certain at the beginning when I'm hit by that slow weapon, my Stomp would have already torn you into pieces. Good luck with this. You can't N+1 or delay your combo with a Giant. They'll Stomp your ass before you can land that delayed extra hit. (or at least I do that)
  
  
  But overall the 100% is going to break zero shot. Seriously, zero shot already has instant 99% aim and it can lock easily. Support Shot does it better as well. Hope the 100% goes for Throwing Attack too. Missing a stationary enemy then waiting 7 more seconds to Throw another Javelin is much more painful. (A reason why Throwing Attack should not have a CD, or at least don't make it CD when it misses.)

  
  
  It takes like a second to go from 99% to 100%.
  
  If anything, the only thing that will break with this update is elf Magnum, since it's pretty much guaranteed at least 90% accuracy against anything headed your way.
• Royale wrote on 2011-07-04 02:40

  Quote from Xentaros;499328:

  once you train this ap skill you only have two skills left to train
  and as a giant you have to train ALL melee skills in order to be efficient
  
  Are you some kind of dope

  
  
  of course range doesn't need months life skilling to be efficient at all....
• Remistalk wrote on 2011-07-04 02:45

  Quote from Xentaros;499328:

  once you train this ap skill you only have two skills left to train
  and as a giant you have to train ALL melee skills in order to be effecient
  
  Are you some kind of dope

  
  
  Training lots of skills to be efficient kinda applies to all races and fighting types.
  
  o.o
• Xentaros wrote on 2011-07-04 02:56

  Quote from Royale;499386:

  of course range doesn't need months life skilling to be efficient at all....

  
  
  BLUH BLUH LIFESKILLS
  ITS PRETTY MUCH TRAIN INSTRUMENT PLAYING AND BECOME AN ELF
  OTHER THAN THAT REFINE GAINS ALOT OF DEXTERITY
  AND ALL ELVES NEED TO WIN IS BOWS
• Iyasenu wrote on 2011-07-04 09:09
  Hey will base potions also stack up to 20?
  I mean, I know you can't drink them, but they are called potions. :p
  
  I wonder how synthesis arat duping will work with the new stack size changes. :o
  
  It'd be so hilarious if it changed that as well. xD
  
  50 sulfur golems in a single dupe. :V
  100 life drains, ohbby.
  
  Heh...
  Okay that probably won't be the case.
  But it's fun to speculate until I know stuff. :P
• kevinXIV wrote on 2011-07-04 11:51

  Quote from Xentaros;499403:

  BLUH BLUH LIFESKILLS
  ITS PRETTY MUCH TRAIN INSTRUMENT PLAYING AND BECOME AN ELF
  OTHER THAN THAT REFINE GAINS ALOT OF DEXTERITY
  AND ALL ELVES NEED TO WIN IS BOWS

  
  
  play more.. you dont know what you are talking about..
  
  irrelevant: makes me hate that race more because of you..
• Kaeporo wrote on 2011-07-04 14:05

  Quote from Blassreiter;499357:

  Yes, zero shot is broken now. I don't know how many of you had R1 Ranged Attack but my range loads instantly to 99% even at Rank F. Or at least the enemy is stunned long enough for it to reach 99%. Not to mention Support Shot has a faster aim speed than regular ranged. With 100% it's GG. Final Shot is no longer Elf only.
  
  But overall the 100% is going to break zero shot. Seriously, zero shot already has instant 99% aim and it can lock easily. Support Shot does it better as well. Hope the 100% goes for Throwing Attack too. Missing a stationary enemy then waiting 7 more seconds to Throw another Javelin is much more painful. (A reason why Throwing Attack should not have a CD, or at least don't make it CD when it misses.)

  
  
  Support Shot will remain a niche party skill. It doesn't matter if you can hold one enemy at bay in G14. You need to be able to control or dispatch large groups of mobs using high power single target or area of effect skills. Support Shot is neither.
  
  

  Quote from Xentaros;499403:

  BLUH BLUH LIFESKILLS
  ITS PRETTY MUCH TRAIN INSTRUMENT PLAYING AND BECOME AN ELF
  OTHER THAN THAT REFINE GAINS ALOT OF DEXTERITY
  AND ALL ELVES NEED TO WIN IS BOWS

  
  
  Range is likely the most difficult build to pursue, though Elf range is a fair bit easier than Human ranged in the beginning.
• Shisummy wrote on 2011-07-04 14:52
  Golem crystal can be stack up to 50, Others can be stack to 100, Potions can be stack to 20, and Bait can be stack to 100.
  
  THIS!! <3
  
  

  Quote from Royale;499386:

  of course range doesn't need months life skilling to be efficient at all....

  
  
  took me 1 week to have a descent range atack power, so yes
  and range skills besides AR(ap) and crash shot(ap) are very easy to master
  refine is like the only thing where u have to grind a lot
• Shisummy wrote on 2011-07-04 14:56

  Quote from Royale;499386:

  of course range doesn't need months life skilling to be efficient at all....

  
  
  took me 1 week to have a descent range atack power, so yes
  and range skills besides AR(ap) and crash shot(ap) are very easy to master
  refine is like the only thing where u have to grind a lot
• Rozel wrote on 2011-07-04 15:03
  Ohh, pretty snazzy! Can't wait owo
  Also, I think they need a buff to dungeon rewards, or make SM rewards suck all together. :I I hate the feeling of being the only one doing dungeons. Even though I know there's still people who do it but, still not as much as SMs xD
• kevinXIV wrote on 2011-07-04 15:05

  Quote from Shisummy;499762:

  Golem crystal can be stack up to 50, Others can be stack to 100, Potions can be stack to 20, and Bait can be stack to 100.
  
  THIS!! <3
  
  
  
  took me 1 week to have a descent range atack power, so yes
  and range skills besides AR(ap) and crash shot(ap) are very easy to master
  refine is like the only thing where u have to grind a lot

  
  
  decent =/= efficient
  
  if refining requires a lot of grinding what more is to weaving and other hardcore dex life skills..
• Shisummy wrote on 2011-07-04 15:09

  Quote from kevinXIV;499770:

  decent =/= efficient
  
  if refining requires a lot of grinding what more is to weaving and other hardcore dex life skills..

  
  
  for some reason weaving has been easier for me o 3o